Losing my tolerance for Fat People

[Big Chiro Flex]

A significant percentage of fatties today were the children being abused yesterday...

No. It's not even remotely close to where it was 25 years ago. You're wrong.

[Man of Steel]

I love my food as much as the next guy but wearing that tank top/t-shirt with the veins popping and muscles toned is just a greater desire.

You just got to know when you are letting yourself go too much and at that point drop the damn fork.

And I really can't make it any more clear than that.

If you're in shape and you let yourself go a little this is a definite, correct common sense approach.

If you're obese and never been in shape or it's been a very long time since you were in shape this mindset ain't there.

That's what I've attempted to illustrate in this thread, but ain't nobody reading it and/or responding to it LOL.  There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that develops and causes them to process eating, overeating and food differently than the thin person.  The thin, inshape person fully understands the ramifications of over indulging and takes action to correct what they've done without question or hesitation.  

If the thin person eats too much cheesecake they work it off like crazy immediately.  

If the obese person eats too much cheesecake they tend to get depressed about overeating the cheesecake and in attempt to feel better they eat more of the cheesecake.

Sad as it is I've stood firmly on both sides of this situation.

Somewhere along the way the obese person passed the "letting themselves go a little" place and entered a vicious spiral of sugar and taste addiction.  The food that corrupted them and continues to corrupt them is ironically their greatest source of comfort and pleasure....they hate overeating, but they love to over eat.

For a sugar and taste addict the whole notion of "just drink water and eat a salad" stuff doesn't work.  Water has no taste and salad has no sugar and often poor taste LOL.

Over time the obese person's desire and will power becomes as soft as their body.

[Neptune100]

No. It's not even remotely close to where it was 25 years ago. You're wrong.

Somebody is there, but nobody is home.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Somebody is there, but nobody is home.

Is this a Hebrew riddle

[Shockwave]

If you're in shape and you let yourself go a little this is definite, correct common sense.

If you're obese and never been in shape or it's been a very long time this mindset ain't there.

That's what I've attempted to illustrate in this thread, but ain't nobody reading it and/or responding to it LOL.  There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that cause them to process eating, overeating and food differently than the thin person.  The thin, inshape person fully understands the ramifications of over indulging and takes action to correct what they've done without question or hesitation.  

If the thin person eats too much cheesecake they work it off like crazy immediately.  

If the obese person eats too much cheesecake they tend to get depressed and in attempt to feel better they eat more of the cheesecake.

Sad as it is I've stood firmly on both sides of this situation.

Somewhere along the way the obese person passed the "letting themselves go a little" place and entered a vicious spiral of sugar and taste addiction.  The food that corrupted them and continues to corrupt them is ironically their greatest source of comfort and pleasure....they hate overeating, but they love to over eat.

Absolutley.  Completely different mentality that people who haven't been there cant possibly understand. ... it can be a sick delusion.

[Neptune100]

Is this a Hebrew riddle

No it means you're not connecting the dots. Probably not cause you can't but because you don't want to give these people any sympathy.

[polychronopolous]

If you're in shape and you let yourself go a little this is a definite, correct common sense approach.

If you're obese and never been in shape or it's been a very long time since you were in shape this mindset ain't there.

That's what I've attempted to illustrate in this thread, but ain't nobody reading it and/or responding to it LOL.  There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that cause them to process eating, overeating and food differently than the thin person.  The thin, inshape person fully understands the ramifications of over indulging and takes action to correct what they've done without question or hesitation.  

If the thin person eats too much cheesecake they work it off like crazy immediately.  

If the obese person eats too much cheesecake they tend to get depressed and in attempt to feel better they eat more of the cheesecake.

Sad as it is I've stood firmly on both sides of this situation.

Somewhere along the way the obese person passed the "letting themselves go a little" place and entered a vicious spiral of sugar and taste addiction.  The food that corrupted them and continues to corrupt them is ironically their greatest source of comfort and pleasure....they hate overeating, but they love to over eat.

I understand where you are coming from.

I've always been more of an ecto type who has never really had to struggle with weight issues.

The only time I really started to put on weight, it was purposely self-inflicted, doing the whole "bulk" thing oh brother

Eating a ton of fried chicken, pizza...well I guess just about anything in sight really.

But then I started lurking on getbig and realized what an asshole I was being doing all that nonsense and learned the error of my ways and trimmed up.

It does seem like for many folks it just cuts so much more deeper than that and it's this incredible emotional type fight to lose weight.

[Neptune100]

If you're in shape and you let yourself go a little this is a definite, correct common sense approach.

If you're obese and never been in shape or it's been a very long time since you were in shape this mindset ain't there.

That's what I've attempted to illustrate in this thread, but ain't nobody reading it and/or responding to it LOL.  There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that develops and causes them to process eating, overeating and food differently than the thin person.  The thin, inshape person fully understands the ramifications of over indulging and takes action to correct what they've done without question or hesitation.  

If the thin person eats too much cheesecake they work it off like crazy immediately.  

If the obese person eats too much cheesecake they tend to get depressed about overeating the cheesecake and in attempt to feel better they eat more of the cheesecake.

Sad as it is I've stood firmly on both sides of this situation.

Somewhere along the way the obese person passed the "letting themselves go a little" place and entered a vicious spiral of sugar and taste addiction.  The food that corrupted them and continues to corrupt them is ironically their greatest source of comfort and pleasure....they hate overeating, but they love to over eat.

For a sugar and taste addict the whole notion of "just drink water and eat a salad" stuff doesn't work.  Water has no taste and salad has no sugar and often poor taste LOL.

Not trying to be funny but this is summarizing what you said.

[Man of Steel]

I understand where you are coming from.

I've always been more of an ecto type who has never really had to struggle with weight issues.

The only time I really started to put on weight, it was purposely self-inflicted, doing the whole "bulk" thing oh brother

Eating a ton of fried chicken, pizza...well I guess just about anything in sight really.

But then I started lurking on getbig and realized what an asshole I was being doing all that nonsense and learned the error of my ways and trimmed up.

It does seem like for many folks it just cuts so much more deeper than that and it's this incredible emotional type fight to lose weight.

You are exactly right.  It is an "incredible emotional fight to lose weight".

That's why inshape folks watch the "Biggest Loser" and think "those crying fatties are ridiculous.....I've been training and eating healthy for years and much harder than this.  I have no sympathy.  They're finally doing what they should have all along."

For the contestants this is the hardest they've ever pushed their bodies or their minds away from sugar, fat and taste addiction sometimes in their entire life.

Most of us have trained in a gym 6-7 days a week for years at some point and some have never stopped that behavior.  For an obese person to even gain the nerve to walk into a gym takes a ton of mental effort.....sometimes the hardest thing they've ever done.

I don't excuse the obese person's behavior or addiction, but I'm attempting to illustrate what they're feeling.

[Natural Man]

are you still obese fatslobofsteel?

[Ex Coelis]

constant snacking and energy drinks

[ProudVirgin69]

If you're in shape and you let yourself go a little this is a definite, correct common sense approach.

If you're obese and never been in shape or it's been a very long time since you were in shape this mindset ain't there.

That's what I've attempted to illustrate in this thread, but ain't nobody reading it and/or responding to it LOL.  There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that develops and causes them to process eating, overeating and food differently than the thin person.  The thin, inshape person fully understands the ramifications of over indulging and takes action to correct what they've done without question or hesitation.  

If the thin person eats too much cheesecake they work it off like crazy immediately.  

If the obese person eats too much cheesecake they tend to get depressed about overeating the cheesecake and in attempt to feel better they eat more of the cheesecake.

Sad as it is I've stood firmly on both sides of this situation.

Somewhere along the way the obese person passed the "letting themselves go a little" place and entered a vicious spiral of sugar and taste addiction.  The food that corrupted them and continues to corrupt them is ironically their greatest source of comfort and pleasure....they hate overeating, but they love to over eat.

For a sugar and taste addict the whole notion of "just drink water and eat a salad" stuff doesn't work.  Water has no taste and salad has no sugar and often poor taste LOL.

Over time the obese person's desire and will power becomes as soft as their body.

I think you are totally correct.... for most, the issue is rooted in psychological issues.  Do you think we can help these people on a large scale and reverse the obesity trend as a society?  If so, how would you do it?

[cart@@n]

[Man of Steel]

Not trying to be funny but this is summarizing what you said.

It is funny and it's also exactly correct!

[Shockwave]

I think you are totally correct.... for most, the issue is rooted in psychological issues.  Do you think we can help these people on a large scale and reverse the obesity trend as a society?  If so, how would you do it?

Im not MOS.... but itd be really hard. They have to want it. They have to get so sick of being fat that theyll do anything to make a chanhr. Even then its 50/50.

[Man of Steel]

I think you are totally correct.... for most, the issue is rooted in psychological issues.  Do you think we can help these people on a large scale and reverse the obesity trend as a society?  If so, how would you do it?

I've lived by a personal creed for many years and it goes like this:

You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.  All you can do is lead by example and encourage them.  If they personally desire to make a change and come asking for your help then help where you can.

I've offered to help train my best friend for over 20 years now.  He refuses to go into a gym LOL.....not a thing I can do.

[Palpatine Q]

Itīs about your attitude. When overweight people come in the gym i tell them the truth. train them and tell them what works. if they do not want to listen then fine.

To expand....I dont get the mindset of the entire western world towards food.

Like it's the greatest pleasure in the world to gorge yourself into a carb coma and retain 12 pounds of water.  

"Mmmmm these wings are delicious!"....dude, you just ate 3 cheeseburgers...2 racks of ribs, and a plate of macaroni and cheese....put the wings down

[Shockwave]

I've lived by a personal creed for many years and it goes like this:

You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.  All you can do is lead by example and encourage them.  If they personally desire to make a change and come asking for your help then help where you can.

Yep.

I learned all you can do is be there when theyre ready for some advices or help... but they have to get to that point on their own. And they have to be ready to do the work. Trying to push will only allow them to run right back to where they were.

[Man of Steel]

To expand....I dont get the mindset of the entire western world towards food.

Like it's the greatest pleasure in the world to gorge yourself into a carb coma and retain 12 pounds of water.  

"Mmmmm these wings are delicious!"....dude, you just ate 3 cheeseburgers...2 racks of ribs, and a plate of macaroni and cheese....put the wings down

This illustrates my point perfectly and what you're saying is also completely correct.

There is a mental disconnect in the brain of an obese person that has developed overtime due to slowly spiraling out of control.  Attempting to pin point when the spiraling begins is the hardest part.  

The thin, in shape person cannot relate because they are hardwired to eat right and stay fit.

I'm not excusing the obese person either, just doing my best to explain.....I've lived both sides.

[Man of Steel]

Yep.

I learned all you can do is be there when theyre ready for some advices or help... but they have to get to that point on their own. And they have to be ready to do the work. Trying to push will only allow them to run right back to where they were.

Exactly!!  They gotta be fed up with themselves and ready to do whatever it takes.

[ProudVirgin69]

Im not MOS.... but itd be really hard. They have to want it. They have to get so sick of being fat that theyll do anything to make a chanhr. Even then its 50/50.

I've lived by a personal creed for many years and it goes like this:

You can't change a grown adult so don't bother trying.  All you can do is lead by example and encourage them.  If they personally desire to make a change and come asking for your help then help where you can.

I agree, but I don't think we can just sit back and let obesity rates continue on their current path....I'm not sure what the best approach would be, but I would not be opposed to see more government intervention in the matter.

I know,  I know.....don't tread on me and all that, but I just don't know else we can get 100 million Americans to lose weight without the government stepping in.  Otherwise if our citizens just keep getting fatter and fatter, EVERYONE is going to be facing serious problems

[Man of Steel]

I agree, but I don't think we can just sit back and let obesity rates continue on their current path....I'm not sure what the best approach would be, but I would not be opposed to see more government intervention in the matter.

I know,  I know.....don't tread on me and all that, but I just don't know else we can get 100 million Americans to lose weight without the government stepping in

Agreed.  I say encourage and uplift people.  Present the health statistics.  Provide accessible, good tasting, healthy options that are affordable.  Encourage, encourage, encourage.....

I know Getbiggers laugh at Planet Fitness, but that place is a step in the right direction for the obese.  A shame free sanctuary for the fat and out of shape.

Planet Fitness isn't built for gym rats so don't go there (unless you're gonna make hilarious lunk alarm videos for youtube showing you getting thrown out  ).  

[Van_Bilderass]

In my mind there is only one realistic solution to the problem. Some type of
anorectic drug, meaning something that reduces appetite. Fighting this with
psychological tactics is never going to work on a large scale. It's just too hard.

[Disgusted]

In my mind there is only one realistic solution to the problem. Some type of
anorectic drug, meaning something that reduces appetite. Fighting this with
psychological tactics is never going to work on a large scale. It's just too hard.

Agreed, but appetite is psychological to a degree unless in rare occasions someone has a physiological problem. 

[calfzilla]

Lots of people dislike the fat shaming thing but for some obese folks it does help and can lead to them finally changing.