Author Topic: Can or will Jay surpass Ronnie Coleman in terms of sheer freakiness? (Read 4490 times)

Oliver Klaushof · « **on:** January 16, 2006, 10:45:47 PM »

Jay is relatively young and he is still making gains - as evident by his last year showing. It's true Ronnie is "on another planet" in terms of freakiness - or the "WOW" factor - but 05 showed a younger Cutler closing the gap. When you factor in the height difference, Cutler is just as wide as Coleman.

Ronnie will keep on competing and Jay will keep playing catch up - so we may see an improving Jay for 1 - 2 more years depending on how long Ronnie stays in the game.

The best chest and quads right now!

healthiswealth · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2006, 10:53:59 PM »

wouldn't be surprised if branch, gustavo, dexter, vic richards surpasses him.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2006, 10:59:15 PM »

Quote from: healthiswealth on January 16, 2006, 10:53:59 PM

wouldn't be surprised if branch, gustavo, dexter, vic richards surpasses him.

Branch is huge - but he's very short. That limits his "WOW" factor when he gets on the stage. Same problem with Dexter and Gustavo. Gunter makes them look like kids.

Victor Martinez looks like he could add alot more size to his frame potentially, but he's turning into the new Chris Cormier/Flex Wheeler. He doesn't give a shit.

phyxsius · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:00:56 PM »

Jay will be on top once Ronnie retires

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:08:42 PM »

Quote from: phyxsius on January 16, 2006, 11:00:56 PM

Jay will be on top once Ronnie retires

His flaws are nil. IMO the best chest(except for maybe Gunter), top quads, calves, huge deltoids, huge arms. Wide back. He's sporting a slight gut as of late, but if you want to see freaky size you must accept what comes along with that.

phyxsius · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:13:10 PM »

He claimed that the gut in Mr. O was because of wrong carb loading

Hulkster · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:17:23 PM »

Jay may surpass the aging ronnie of 2005 and the future. But he will never match the physique that Ronnie presented in his prime years, at around 250 pounds or so.

GMCtrk · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:19:49 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on January 16, 2006, 11:17:23 PM

Jay may surpass the aging ronnie of 2005 and the future. But he will never match the physique that Ronnie presented in his prime years, at around 250 pounds or so.

Jay did at the 2001 "O"

body88 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:27:46 PM »

Quote from: phyxsius on January 16, 2006, 11:13:10 PM

He claimed that the gut in Mr. O was because of wrong carb loading

jay seems to speak the truth

Bast000 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:32:06 PM »

Ronnies arms and back are untouchable by any of the current pros because of their shape, but everything else he can be surpassed. Martinez may have a chance to beat him on Arms.

the shadow · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2006, 12:18:32 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on January 16, 2006, 11:32:06 PM

Ronnies arms and back are untouchable by any of the current pros because of their shape, but everything else he can be surpassed. Martinez may have a chance to beat him on Arms.

yeah man ronnie can b beaten on legs and chest.ur a retard.ronnie is unbeatable in any body part.colemans legs r a sight 2 see,colemans chest r the most striated pecs ever...........he is unbeatable!!!!!!!!

healthiswealth · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2006, 01:24:32 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 17, 2006, 12:18:32 AM

yeah man ronnie can b beaten on legs and chest.ur a retard.ronnie is unbeatable in any body part.colemans legs r a sight 2 see,colemans chest r the most striated pecs ever...........he is unbeatable!!!!!!!!

i can name 5 pros off the top of my head who beat ronnie on legs.

Sumpa · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2006, 02:41:09 AM »

the thing is that he isn't planning on staying in body building for many more years. he'll probably try for the olympia title the year after ronnie retires, then quit. so i don't think we'll ever know...

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2006, 05:15:45 AM »

nobody can be as disgusting as ronnie coleman

nicorulez · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2006, 05:40:14 AM »

Name me five bb who have better quads,hams and glutes. The answer is easy...none. Branck standing next to Big Ron is a little boy. Ronnie friggin dwarfs him. Cutler has awesome thighs, but his hams and glutes are definitely lacking. Hell, Dex has better legs from the side. Ronnie has the thickest arms, best chest, thickest back and huge shoulders. His calves suck in shape but are huge. Hell, Dorian's calves aren't any bigger, just better. Overall, the freakiest Mr. O the world has ever seen (including Dorians non-competitive B&W pics from 1993...they were weeks before the show). Jay is awesome but he is still lacking detail in the back (especially lower back) and his legs from the side do not pop to any degree. He has average arms at best with very little vascularity or detail. I think Dex or Gunther cold take him soon. Victor if he got his head out of his arse. Gustavo...no chance IMO. Mansanvior, I don't think Jay will continue to take the shit required to get bigger than Ron for another ten years. Dude is rich and married. I bet he wants a family one day...taking GH, anabolics, insulin and lasix do not factor into that equation to be a healthy father longterm. I predict he will compete till 35-36 and hang em up; he seems too intelligent to destroy his life longterm with all the abuse.

Karl Kox · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:30:20 AM »

Quote from: phyxsius on January 16, 2006, 11:13:10 PM

He claimed that the gut in Mr. O was because of wrong carb loading

I believe that his whole upperbody seemed soft

sculpture · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:15:28 AM »

No flaws? are you kiddin? i'll list them for you
glaring right to left quad assymetry
no arm detail at all, no separation (you can have all the size in world)
wide ass waist (perhaps 36")
gh gut
large obliques
blocky as hell
thick skin in lower back (dont tell me its cause he bends far back)

boonstack · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2008, 12:55:10 PM »

i think Jay will be mr. olympia one day

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2008, 12:56:32 PM »

Quote from: Oliver Klaushof on January 16, 2006, 10:45:47 PM

Jay is relatively young and he is still making gains - as evident by his last year showing. It's true Ronnie is "on another planet" in terms of freakiness - or the "WOW" factor - but 05 showed a younger Cutler closing the gap. When you factor in the height difference, Cutler is just as wide as Coleman.

Ronnie will keep on competing and Jay will keep playing catch up - so we may see an improving Jay for 1 - 2 more years depending on how long Ronnie stays in the game.

The best chest and quads right now!

Never

Hulkster · « **Reply #19 on:** September 19, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »

Quote from: nicorulez on January 17, 2006, 05:40:14 AM

Name me five bb who have better quads,hams and glutes. The answer is easy...none. Branck standing next to Big Ron is a little boy. Ronnie friggin dwarfs him. Cutler has awesome thighs, but his hams and glutes are definitely lacking. Hell, Dex has better legs from the side. Ronnie has the thickest arms, best chest, thickest back and huge shoulders. His calves suck in shape but are huge. Hell, Dorian's calves aren't any bigger, just better. Overall, the freakiest Mr. O the world has ever seen (including Dorians non-competitive B&W pics from 1993...they were weeks before the show). Jay is awesome but he is still lacking detail in the back (especially lower back) and his legs from the side do not pop to any degree. He has average arms at best with very little vascularity or detail. I think Dex or Gunther cold take him soon. Victor if he got his head out of his arse. Gustavo...no chance IMO. Mansanvior, I don't think Jay will continue to take the shit required to get bigger than Ron for another ten years. Dude is rich and married. I bet he wants a family one day...taking GH, anabolics, insulin and lasix do not factor into that equation to be a healthy father longterm. I predict he will compete till 35-36 and hang em up; he seems too intelligent to destroy his life longterm with all the abuse.

agreed. Ronnie at his best was the freakiest Mr. O ever by a wide margin.

and Jay will never top this: