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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2014, 03:00:33 AM »
funny they awarded craze the best pwo in the annual "supplement awards" and then withdrew the product

shows how anxious and uninformed they are about the products they're awarding


The press has no idea what a "stereoisomer" is, so meth!

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2014, 03:09:00 AM »
Mark Lobliner got hit up by the press about craze. This is what he says about craze and what it was spiked with. spiked by matt cahill.


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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2014, 06:28:26 AM »
Is Frenzy available yet? Will it be at Vitamin Shoppe or will u have to find it online?

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2014, 06:32:02 AM »
I heard that Frenzy will be sold in Europe only. It will not be available in the U.S.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2014, 06:46:51 AM »
it contained a similar molecule that get's caught in the tests for meth while not being meth.

if the tests were smarter and distinguished these two it would still be legal. it was at least what I gathered from reading up on this..

on the other hand, whatever works in a supplement, they will ban. so it probably would have been banned anyway. they making it up as they go.


No, it wasn't due to false positives on drug tests.

WADA started finding this designer stimulant in athletes' urine. They will sanction athletes for substances not explicitly on the banned list. WADA was critisized for not warning athletes of taking Craze et al., not warning how it contained a substance not on the label, they just banned people. But OTOH the rules state that an athlete is responsible for anything they ingest, "mistake" or "not knowing" is no excuse. That's why they warn against using any and all supplements.

It's still not illegal per se, or more correctly it hasn't been determined if this substances falls under the analogue act, which means some substances can be classed as illegal drugs if they are too similar to for example methamphetamine. That's why Matt Cahill is still not in prison. There has been speculation that Matt is working for the authorities and has been for a long time, bringing down people selling Superdrol etc (which he himself used to sell)... and that would be a reason he's still a free man.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2014, 06:51:16 AM »

I have about 15 tubs of Craze left still, I am sure I can send you one if you are a good boy, convince me!  ;)

Seriously totally agree Craze is different league than anything I have ever taken and I have tried most of them.

No idea if Frenzy is gonna live up to the expectation but based on what I have heard it looks promising.

I doubt Cahill would come up with something that was not as good/similar and was only matter of time since Craze was such a hit.



Do your research, it's been proven that Craze has a methamphetamine analog in it.  It is very similar to amphetamine and meth.  That's why it works so well.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2014, 06:51:48 AM »
I heard that Frenzy will be sold in Europe only. It will not be available in the U.S.

The UK seems more lax when it comes to designer drugs. There has been talk of outright legalizing some designer drugs since the market is completely flooded with new designers and the politicians don't know what to do about it.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/12/ministers-new-solution-legal-highs

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2014, 11:40:49 AM »
Frenzy is out now.

Predator nutrition

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2014, 11:47:29 AM »
I just ordered 2 of them. They ship to the U.S.  Get it while you can......

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2014, 11:51:35 AM »
I just ordered 2 of them. They ship to the U.S.  Get it while you can......


Weird, the predator nutrition site said that it's not available to the U.S.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2014, 11:53:13 AM »

Weird, the predator nutrition site said that it's not available to the U.S.

It said that in the outline, but it allows you to order it. I think it's trying to say not sold by American retailers.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2014, 02:37:36 PM »
LOL


They claim they will sell out tomorrow. Next batch not until july.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2014, 03:19:32 PM »
It said that in the outline, but it allows you to order it. I think it's trying to say not sold by American retailers.

The posts on their forum claim that they will just cancel the order...

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2014, 03:23:36 PM »
cant wait till Schizoid hits the market...

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2014, 03:58:00 PM »
The posts on their forum claim that they will just cancel the order...

Hmmm. I guess we will see. I'll update here if I get an email for cancellation.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2014, 10:28:30 AM »
BOOOOM!

Look what just arrived boys!



drink it up jonny

let us know if its better than craze
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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2014, 11:15:16 AM »

They claim they will sell out tomorrow. Next batch not until july.
and....

this stuff is garbage

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2014, 11:28:09 AM »
and....

this stuff is garbage

Tried it?

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2014, 02:29:42 PM »
Tried it?
no but all those pre workouts are like crack cocaine

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2014, 06:28:26 AM »
Im a graphic designer! I can make a nice logotype and shit in a bucket! When its dried u can take som of it and blend into water! Great stuff! I can also ask a stupid bodybuilder to stand beside my shit in a magazine add! Please buy my shit!

Drink coffee and eat some bisquit! Stupid! Coffee is a hell of a drug!

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2014, 07:31:37 AM »
From the sounds of things, Frenzy is without the N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine, which is what made Craze users a lot more friendly. But Cahill's reputation precedes him now:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/13/sports-supplement-preworkout-frenzy/5430085/

I'd still like to try it.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2014, 07:36:09 AM »
This is not sounding good at all.. the focus and concentration is what made craze good.

This is sounding like any other pwo out there with excessive caffein and agressive jittery energy.. sounds much like Enhanched which I am doing now. It is pretty shit to be honest, I get more energy from coffee.

I don't want to be aggressive when I enter the gym,, I want total focus and mind muscle connection and the right kind of contractions to take place.

Thinking of pouring the last 10 scoops of enhanched in the trash bin..

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2014, 07:45:38 AM »
I am more of a Level II Formutech person.....

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2014, 09:07:07 AM »

I mean don't get me wrong its still pretty good but its just not Craze, Craze was bit special!


No argument about the latter. I searched online and found a place that sold me 10 jars. Good thing I made all that money dumping my stock a year ago.

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Re: Frenzy - better than Craze?
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2014, 06:13:43 AM »
so your one of those kids that drop the 60lbs dumbells on the floor like they are heavy, looking like a total fool? all spazzed out on your preworkout