Gaining or Losing weight which is easier?

[Melkor]

eating cooking and cleaning so much sucks balls

i buy prepared food (those asian things with chicken and rice) that's about to expire at 50% discount often

Yes, the absolute hardest thing about trying to gain weight. Need a personal chef like The Rock: http://www.muscleandfitness.com/news-and-features/athletes-and-celebrities/rock-tweets-hercules-diet-plan-and-workout-pics

[Simple Simon]

Haha 200mgs of dbol daily...and all you gained was refeed weight? Bwhahahaha

brutal inferior genetics

It was actually injectables as well.

[Icelord]

Translation

"yeah, you got me. I was saying a bunch of fabricated bullshit about my gains again."

[Wolfox]

It was actually injectables as well.

yeah if i recall correctly it was 1.5-2 grams of test weekly in addition to the 200mgs of dbol daily.

Massive Dosages for Minimal Gains: The Art of Sucking at Every Endeavour

by Cleanest Natural/Sev

[Simple Simon]

They are about 24 hours apart, and I weight 79 kg in the first one and 86 in the second.

http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/shitloading_or_skiploading


lol, all that gear and you could have gone to a barbecue and got the same results.

[Wolfox]

http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/shitloading_or_skiploading


lol, all that gear and you could have gone to a barbecue and got the same results.

bwhahaha brutal

[Icelord]

brutal torn pec or empty middle chest genetics. Looks like a fucking boa took a bite out of it.

[Simple Simon]

bwhahaha brutal

He will recover, Sev is getbigs 'special needs child', he is forgiven all mistakes.

[anabolichalo]

He will recover, Sev is getbigs 'special needs child', he is forgiven all mistakes.

[MCWAY]

Haha 200mgs of dbol daily...and all you gained was refeed weight? Bwhahahaha

brutal inferior genetics

yeah if i recall correctly it was 1.5-2 grams of test weekly in addition to the 200mgs of dbol daily.

Massive Dosages for Minimal Gains: The Art of Sucking at Every Endeavour

by Cleanest Natural/Sev

He used this, just to REGAIN weight he once had?

[Simple Simon]

He used this, just to REGAIN weight he once had?

Thats all he ever does, he doesnt train for years then diets and juices heavy, its all false, he drops the gear and disappears again.

[anabolichalo]

He used this, just to REGAIN weight he once had?

sev has been doing this shit for years


do a cycle, make some gains, lose them all again, then repeat


and somehow he believes this is what makes him god's gift to bodybuilding

[Wolfox]

sev has been doing this shit for years


do a cycle, make some gains, lose them all again, then repeat


and somehow he believes this is what makes him god's gift to bodybuilding

He's truly a delusional little muppet. But we need to realize that we're dealing with someone who literally believes in shapeshifting lizard people who control the world.

[anabolichalo]

He's truly a delusional little muppet. But we need to realize that we're dealing with someone who literally believes in shapeshifting lizard people who control the world.

i just wish he would snap out of it and stop irritating us

[Wolfox]

i just wish he would snap out of it and stop irritating us

Sev is not all there in the head. He's probably on psych meds.

[anabolichalo]

Sev is not all there in the head. He's probably on psych meds.

he recently said he would destroy simeon panda on stage

then there was a video of a bber squatting 500 for like 16 reps or soemthing crazy like that

he then proceeds to post a pic of his legs saying he is living proof this bber is a retard

[Army of One]

I posted pics you dumb ass

here's me at 74 kg then 84 after 5 weeks ..

Why bother jumping on and off drugs?Just stay clean or juice but at least stick to one.TBH, risking your health when you barely look any better in the 2nd pic makes no sense to me.

[MCWAY]

Yes, the absolute hardest thing about trying to gain weight. Need a personal chef like The Rock: http://www.muscleandfitness.com/news-and-features/athletes-and-celebrities/rock-tweets-hercules-diet-plan-and-workout-pics

Not really! Just cook your meals 3-4 days in advance (as I'm about to do in about 20 minutes); the rest is either protein powder (if you're an endomorph) or weight-gainer (if you're a YOUNG ectomorph).

[Danimal77]

There is much debate over this topic in actual athletic or bodybuilding circles because it seems like everyone in the US is a fat tub of shit. But that is because of sedentary lifestyle PERIOD. And I will explain why.

Obese morons can't seem to get their shit together enough to stop eating fucking 6,000 calories of fast food every single day and lose 50-100lbs...For christ's sake. My TEMPER flares up just thinking about some fatty claiming "It's genetic" "I have skinny friends that eat 5x more than me" "slow metabolism" All the while their BMR is 1,500 cals watching tv while eating 5,000 SMDH..

Anyone who has been muscular and lean, let's say 200+lbs and semi lean, understands the work that it takes both in the gym and the kitchen. When it comes down to it though what is easier; going from a 150lb weakling to a 220lb beast, or going from 290lb to 200lbs and 6%?

I have been both places; I started training around 180lbs skinny fat...I now sit at 230lbs @ roughly 12%. I have also gone from 230 down to 180 and been very lean thus making gains - I was 180 and chubby, and 2 years later after bulking and cutting I was 180 and 6%. It took me 2 more years to slowly get back up to 230 and I am a lot leaner than the previous time I was 230, and so on.

I take the stance that gaining weight is actually much harder than losing weight..The reason I take this stance is because if you train hard, and carry some muscle, it is MUCH harder to choke down 4,500 calories of (Meat)+(Rice, Potato, Pasta, etc.) every day...And that is what is takes for me to gain weight at 230lbs is 4,000-4,500 calories per day. On the flip side what all the fatties would have you believe is that it is damn near impossible to "diet" meaning ?? 2,500 cals a day low-moderate fat/carbs? This is THE EASIEST THING YOU CAN EVER DO !!! WTF?

Eating 2,500 cals and thus LOSING WEIGHT is by far easier than gaining weight...You eat 500cals when you're hungry and boom you lose weight...Trying to get 4,500 cals of pure foods into your throat involves eating huge bowls of bullshit when you often have no appetite at all because you ate 2 hours ago...Eating becomes some chore that you begin to loath we aint talking pizza and cheesecake here, rice pilaf and meat 8 times per day baby, yum...


Getting lean =

10am - coffee, scoop of whey...
3pm - chicken, pasta
8pm - salmon, rice
12am - beef, pasta

+ small snacks fruit almonds etc...Fresh yummy stuff 100 cal here and there for hunger..

boom 2,000-2,500 calories and feeling like a damn spry little kitten all day, never too full, never sluggish, no insulin issues etc...The easiest thing ever is losing weight. Gaining weight is the hard part. Given that you actually lift and don't sit on the couch all fucking day eating pizza.

Compare that to;

8am - shake: scoop whey, 100g oats, banana.
10am - eggs, potato (uncomfortably full)
12pm - chicken, pasta  >  (not hungry)
2:30pm - beef, rice (uncomfortably full)
5pm - chicken, rice  >  (not hungry)
7:30 - 2 tuna sandwich (uncomfortably full)
10pm - chicken, fries     > (not hungry)
12am - cottage cheese.

EVERY SINGLE DAY to gain 10lbs of water, fat, and muscle in 1 year...IF you're lucky.

Gaining weight is obviously harder and therefor there is absolutely no excuse not to be at least lean. Just stop driving food down your throat emotionally, happy = pizza, sad = burger, mad = cake blah blah fatties...Losing weight is fucking immensely easy.

I think they are equally as easy. I went from being pretty beefed up at 230 pounds (5'10") to completely stopping weights, eliminating all carbs and began running 2 hours a day. My weight dropped down to 140 pounds inside half a year. Then I stopped running, loaded up on the carbs and began heavy lifting and went back up to 233 pounds. The only downsize is while my arms, chest, legs grew several inches, so did my waist, which went down to 31" waist when I was at my lowest weight and now I'm busting out of a 38" waist. Thinking of shedding 35-40 pounds again.

I think it takes more discipline to lose weight, but if you have it, it's not any harder than it is to gain.

[240 is Back]

Just about ANYONE can get ripped to 8% body fat in a few months, with cardio, ECA, diet and common sense.

However...

MOST PEOPLE cannot add 30 pounds of muscle to their frame in a few months, even with steroids.

So I'd say building muscle is way harder than losing fat.   Simply "gaining weight" is too vague.

[Natural Beast]

yeah if i recall correctly it was 1.5-2 grams of test weekly in addition to the 200mgs of dbol daily.

Massive Dosages for Minimal Gains: The Art of Sucking at Every Endeavour

by Cleanest Natural/Sev

he also took 1g of tren ace

[bigmc]

lots of hate for sev in this thread

say what you want but the guy knows how to get in shape

[latiuss]

lots of hate for sev in this thread

say what you want but the guy knows how to get in shape

with all the information so easily available "getting in" shape isnt impressive at all,anyone can do it if they arent a complete retard .

[bigmc]

with all the information so easily available "getting in" shape isnt impressive at all,anyone can do it if they arent a complete retard .

oh that must be why everyone is walking around ripped to shreds

you must look great post a pic up for inspiration for the rest of us who struggle 

[latiuss]

oh that must be why everyone is walking around ripped to shreds

you must look great post a pic up for inspiration for the rest of us who struggle 

its more to do with money,time and actually caring about how you look,most people dont give ashit, and theres also not being a retard.