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In all sports Ive watched. I can only think of one athlete who was simply godlike in his abilities, and literally surpassed his hype, and that's Michael Jordan.Whenever his team had the equal or best record in the playoffs, they won.Jordan raised his scoring in the playoffs and took his game to next level, remaining the best u til he retired from the bulls.

bolt has been disappointing since his world record, seemingly coasting on natural abilities

Federer has lost his advantage whenever nadal , murray and dkokovic raised their game

Don't know enough about Gretzky , but from what I've read a peak Lemoiux was just as good

Babe Ruth played with stiffs, some fat dude in the twenties being the best, come on

Anyone who is being real watching football (soccer) knows its way too much of a team game for one player to dominate, sans short spells from pele, maradonna and messi

Bubka was dominant so I read,maybe someone can clarify but its a simple sport of planting a pole and launching, sure it's difficult to attain but I can see why someone can master it and be dominant

F1 is all down to the car

Ali lost too many times to make a case, same with Robinson

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Kobe and LeBron also lived up the hype.

Tiger Woods too other than during his post-divorce slump.

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Your post is a complete joke. Ever heard of Lebron James, or is he also a failure?

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Mike Trout is off to an incredible start.

And yeah, Woods and Lebron.
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You could probably add Tommy Brookens from the '84 Detroit Tigers to that list
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Army of One

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Kobe and LeBron also lived up the hype.

Tiger Woods too other than during his post-divorce slump.

Lol no, Lebron got to the finals then average like 20 ppg on 35% against the spurs and lost.the next time he got to the finals he averaged around 18ppg on 35% getting shut down by a 40 yr old Jason Kidd  and scrub Stephenson and lost again.He needed to team with up with 2 other first options in free agency to win anything.Going 2-2 in NBA finals against teams that arnt even classed as legendary is shit.

Kobe?these are the players Kobe has played with in his career, and he only has 5 titles?

Nash\van exel\gary Payton
Eddie jones\ Mitch Richmond
Lamar odom\ Glenn rice\antwan Jamison \artest\ariza
Malone\gasol\rodman\horry\horace grant
Shaq\howard\bynum

the lakers have underachieved with all the talent they brought in, and thats largely due to Bryant completely sucking balls when his game isn't on,  if he isn't scoring then he is a non factor.give a 26+ old Jordan those teammates until he retires and its 8+ championships.If Kobe was on the bucks he'd just be another dominique Wilkins.

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Ronnie Coleman was pretty close, too bad he couldn't break Lee Haney's record.

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Lol no, Lebron got to the finals then average like 20 ppg on 35% against the spurs and lost.the next time he got to the finals he averaged around 18ppg on 35% getting shut down by a 40 yr old Jason Kidd  and scrub Stephenson.Going 2-2 in NBA finals against teams that arnt even classed as legendary is shit.

Kobe?these are the players Kobe has played with in his career, and he only has 5 titles?

Nash\van exel\gary Payton
Eddie jones\ Mitch Richmond
Lamar odom\ Glenn rice\antwan Jamison \artest\ariza
Malone\gasol\rodman\horry\horace grant
Shaq\howard\bynum

the lakers have underachieved with all the talent they brought in, and thats largely due to Bryant completely sucking balls when his game isn't on,  if he isn't scoring then he is a non factor.give a 26+ old Jordan those teammates until he retires and its 8+ championships.If Kobe was on the bucks he'd just be another dominique Wilkins.
Lebron was recruited out of high school and is one of the highest paid and best-performing athletes in the NBA, witness his being bought out from one team to another. Kobe held the Lakers afloat as a one man tour de force. Focusing on one bad season or the fact that some other guy from 20 years ago had more trophies is basically a red herring.

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I would say Barry Sanders was one of the best atheletes I ever saw.

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Jordan wasnt what you make him out to be you cant compare individual sports with team sports jordan had the best team around him that helps a lot.


What the fuck are you talking about?

Here is a list of Jordan's teammates, tell anybody that belongs as a starter on any other team except pippin?  ::)

http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/teammates.htm

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 08:11:37 PM »
Sugar Ray Robinson

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2014, 08:19:12 PM »
Bo knows


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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2014, 08:20:39 PM »
I think a case could still be made for Ali, if we acknowledge that he simply fought past his prime, all of the real loses came in a narrow block when he was well up in boxing years.

Robinson is well deserving of his status too, simply because of the era and number of fights. There are huge blocks of time were he was fighting decent fighters literally every week or two, and manages around a 86% victor rate in those fights, Also like Ali, the majority of the losses come late in  boxing life (mainly in 1965), which was his 25th year in boxing.

Marciano is certainly legacy worthy too.

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2014, 08:22:00 PM »
Never cared about Jordan nor his shoes that Hebrews and stupid white guys go crazy after

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2014, 08:46:30 PM »

What the fuck are you talking about?

Here is a list of Jordan's teammates, tell anybody that belongs as a starter on any other team except pippin?  ::)

http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/teammates.htm



This.On an individual talent basis Kobes teammates are about 1000 leagues above Jordans.

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2014, 08:48:32 PM »
for a skinny rag doll of a guy Gretzky accomplished amazing things

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2014, 08:50:15 PM »
for a skinny rag doll of a guy Gretzky accomplished amazing things

Don't know too much about him, how many times was he MVP?how many championships?was he far and away the best player in the league for 10+ years?

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2014, 08:54:24 PM »
Tom Brady. Drafter very low nobody expected much, I'd say he's a good example.

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 08:55:09 PM »
for a skinny rag doll of a guy Gretzky accomplished amazing things

No doubt about it.

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2014, 08:59:09 PM »
Mike Trout is off to an incredible start.

And yeah, Woods and Lebron.


Yes sir!

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2014, 09:05:35 PM »
Bo knows



The Prostars Trifecta of Jordan, Jackson and Gretzky all lived up to all the hype.  ;)

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2014, 09:15:58 PM »




Walter payton

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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2014, 09:18:35 PM »
A young Tyson under Rooney and D'Amato was impressive.


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Re: Is Jordan the only athlete that ever lived up to or surpassed the hype?
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2014, 10:15:40 PM »
A young Tyson under Rooney and D'Amato was impressive.



Whoah!! Nostalgia setting in! Good to see ya runnin it back man and yes, I'm thinkin there never was a man more deserving of the phenom moniker. Melted confidence with his entrance and stare down. Took manhood with his skills......AS A TEEN!!