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« on: April 12, 2014, 01:36:45 PM »

16 week contest prep cycle for a competitor in this weekends europa from his coach...thought you guys would enjoy, been very busy.

16 weeks out
1,000mg test cyp weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
700mg tren hex weekly
15iu humalog AM
15iu humulin-R pre workout
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
100mcg t3
40mg valeant tested pre workout
1mg anastrazole EOD
20mg tamox EOD

12 weeks out
1,000mg test cyp weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1050mg tren hex weekly
700mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher smith oxandralone ED
15iu humalog AM
15iu humulin-R pre workout
15iu humalog before second post workout meal
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
100mcg t3
40mg valeant tested pre workout
1mg anastrazole EOD
20mg tamox EOD

8 weeks out
1,400mg test prop weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,050mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
100mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally)
15iu humulin-R pre workout
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED

4 weeks out
1,400mg test no ester weekly (1cc 2x/day)
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,400mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
200mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally, 2x/day)
30mg upsher-smith androxy ED
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
160mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED

1 week out
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,400mg masteron prop weekly
100mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
300mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally, 3x/day)
40mg upsher-smith androxy ED
100mg anadrol ED
50mcg t4
160mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED



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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2014, 01:42:03 PM »

in the first 8 weeks that should obviously read "valeant testred" not "tested"
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2014, 01:44:43 PM »

esf fitness cruises on that bro
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2014, 01:45:53 PM »

All for some "hardware" as these "athletes" call it  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2014, 01:46:43 PM »

thanks for sharing, I would ease up on the T3 during last week to help fill out, 150mcg would have him flatter than needed.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2014, 01:53:01 PM »

16 week contest prep cycle for a competitor in this weekends europa from his coach...thought you guys would enjoy, been very busy.

16 weeks out
1,000mg test cyp weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
700mg tren hex weekly
15iu humalog AM
15iu humulin-R pre workout
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
100mcg t3
40mg valeant tested pre workout
1mg anastrazole EOD
20mg tamox EOD

12 weeks out
1,000mg test cyp weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1050mg tren hex weekly
700mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher smith oxandralone ED
15iu humalog AM
15iu humulin-R pre workout
15iu humalog before second post workout meal
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
100mcg t3
40mg valeant tested pre workout
1mg anastrazole EOD
20mg tamox EOD

8 weeks out
1,400mg test prop weekly
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,050mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
100mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally)
15iu humulin-R pre workout
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
120mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED

4 weeks out
1,400mg test no ester weekly (1cc 2x/day)
1,200mg EQ weekly
1,200mg 1-test cypionate weekly
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,400mg masteron prop weekly
50mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
200mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally, 2x/day)
30mg upsher-smith androxy ED
6iu humatrope everyday first thing in AM
50mcg t4
160mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED

1 week out
1,400mg tren hex weekly
1,400mg masteron prop weekly
100mg upsher-smith oxandralone ED
300mg winstrol suspended in everclear ED (orally, 3x/day)
40mg upsher-smith androxy ED
100mg anadrol ED
50mcg t4
160mcg clen
150mcg t3
1mg anastrazole ED
20mg tamox ED





No physique is worth having to live like that.
Im 215 lb at around 10% BF on 200mgs of test every 10 days.

Is all the above worth it?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 01:56:01 PM »

Dorian Yates would say yes but for most pros no, its a personal choice, an extreme sport, is rock climbing without a rope worth it? To those who take that risk it is...
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 01:57:16 PM »

thanks for sharing, I would ease up on the T3 during last week to help fill out, 150mcg would have him flatter than needed.

As a top competitor do u agree with the dosages here or u think it is exaggerated? Been highly debated here for some time?
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 01:59:14 PM »

Dorian Yates would say yes but for most pros no, its a personal choice, an extreme sport, is rock climbing without a rope worth it? To those who take that risk it is...
I will wager Dorian didnt go any where near those dosages.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2014, 02:04:41 PM »

I wouldn't be in this league of usage but it sounds possible, some things seem a bit off like 2.6gms of test up until a week out, that should be tapered down and then stopped 10 days out IMO.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2014, 02:07:51 PM »

I will wager Dorian didnt go any where near those dosages.
Really?  I bet he did....
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2014, 02:13:05 PM »

how do you keep track of all that shit, i can even remember to take some creatine before my workout


im guessing this is where a "COACH" "GURU" comes into place , calling you or txting you what and when to take it every hour on the hour
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2014, 02:17:18 PM »

I have a migraine just thinking about all that gear. Pinning it would be excruciating, then sitting there with all that shit floating around would be another challenge in and of itself.

I'm proud to be a life time natural (under 1 gram per week). Grin
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2014, 02:20:06 PM »

it would be, I think this kind of stack can become the hardest part about a contest prep for these guys, getting all that in then living with it inside you.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2014, 02:22:08 PM »

it would be, I think this kind of stack can become the hardest part about a contest prep for these guys, getting all that in then living with it inside you.
its about 28ml of oil a week leading up to a show.

No shots 5 days out for me,
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2014, 02:23:31 PM »

it would be, I think this kind of stack can become the hardest part about a contest prep for these guys, getting all that in then living with it inside you.
So... what is a typical off season stack that you'd use when you're actually trying to pack on muscle? We all always want to know the contest stack because it's the most complicated, but I'd be interested in hearing a real,  no shit competitors off season stack
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 02:28:10 PM »

its about 28ml of oil a week leading up to a show.

No shots 5 days out for me,

28ml...for you?

the cycle above is about 50ml a week!
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 02:33:20 PM »

So... what is a typical off season stack that you'd use when you're actually trying to pack on muscle? We all always want to know the contest stack because it's the most complicated, but I'd be interested in hearing a real,  no shit competitors off season stack

I dont have long extended off seasons or havent yet.

1.5-2gms test cyp
700mg tren
700mg npp
100mg dianabol daily

something like that maybe if making a concerted effort off season to add muscle.

I am more a grow in to a show type of guy meaning I make my best progress when under 16 weeks out from competition.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 02:33:56 PM »

I wouldn't be in this league of usage but it sounds possible, some things seem a bit off like 2.6gms of test up until a week out, that should be tapered down and then stopped 10 days out IMO.

1-test cyp is not the same as test. it has very little, to no water retention. so dont count it in the test total. its basically a cheaper version of primo.

The test is switched to short esters 8 weeks out and then switched to test no ester 4 weeks out so it just needs 7 days to clear as TNE has a 12 hour half life.

You are correct that this is the hardest part of contest prep. At the high ranking pro level, contest prep can and often will take you to a very, very dark place. A lot of guys turn to recreational drug use during contest prep because it becomes very hard to keep sticking yourself with needles and not feel like you are killing yourself a little more everyday.

I remember locking myself in the bathroom with 3-5 syringes in front of me that i had to pin, during contest prep. After a while, I just could not handle it any more. That is the main reason I stopped competing.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 02:34:48 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2014, 02:35:59 PM »

I dont have long extended off seasons or havent yet.

1.5-2gms test cyp
700mg tren
700mg npp
100mg dianabol daily

something like that maybe if making a concerted effort off season to add muscle.

I am more a grow in to a show type of guy meaning I make my best progress when under 16 weeks out from competition.
so, do you do anything differently growing into a show than most people do when prepping? I.E. do you start your prep early abd keep using higher doses of traditional 'bulking' drugs at the start of your prep and then switch them out,  or do you just start your prep like normal and grow off the contest cycle?
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2014, 02:38:16 PM »

it would be, I think this kind of stack can become the hardest part about a contest prep for these guys, getting all that in then living with it inside you.

that would kill me.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 02:39:05 PM »

28ml...for you?

the cycle above is about 50ml a week!
My reckoning is 28ml for the last week of the course above
1400mgs mast =14ml @100mgs per ml
same for the tren hex

Thats 28ml

Me , I took around 6-9ml for 4 weeks
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 02:42:15 PM »

1-test cyp is not the same as test. it has very little, to no water retention. so dont count it in the test total. its basically a cheaper version of primo.

The test is switched to short esters 8 weeks out and then switched to test no ester 4 weeks out so it just needs 7 days to clear as TNE has a 12 hour half life.

You are correct that this is the hardest part of contest prep. At the high ranking pro level, contest prep can and often will take you to a very, very dark place. A lot of guys turn to recreational drug use during contest prep because it becomes very hard to keep sticking yourself with needles and not feel like you are killing yourself a little more everyday.

I remember locking myself in the bathroom with 3-5 syringes in front of me that i had to pin, during contest prep. After a while, I just could not handle it any more. That is the main reason I stopped competing.

I see...forgot about the switch from prop to free base and thought 1 test cyp was just regular test cyp, we dont get that over here.

Were you an amateur or professional when you competed? How long were you in the game for? Did you take anything yourself rec wise or to help sleeping?
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 02:43:27 PM »

My reckoning is 28ml for the last week of the course above
1400mgs mast =14ml @100mgs per ml
same for the tren hex

Thats 28ml

Me , I took around 6-9ml for 4 weeks

I doubt all the gear is 100-200mg/ml. Its almost all UGL steroids with the exception of the testred, androxy, and a couple other items. Most guys when they knew they will be shooting that much oil get custom blended high dosed ugl gear. I've seen 200mg mast prop, 200mg tren hex, eq can hold up to 500mg/ml, so can test depot blends...
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