Arnold comments on Genertion Iron

[DroppingPlates]

arnold couldnt last 2 minutes in a workout with RC

work ethic my foot

Apples/oranges. Ronnie trained rather like a powerlifter, taking his time, while Arnold did set after set.

[hipolito mejia]

Apples/oranges. Ronnie trained rather like a powerlifter, taking his time, while Arnold did set after set.

Exactly, Don't forget that Arnold was mr.O at age 23, Ronnie at 34 ! Plus Arnold followed Sergio Olivas path with a smaller waist than his.  In an era When small waist was VERY IMPORTANT.  

Ronnie was the champ after Dorian Yates. So go figure.  

Back at topic at hand, Arnold is being a hater. He just don't want to give credit to any of today's champs. Fearing he can create a bigger image than his in this sport.

Champs from the 60's were a lot smaller than Arnold.  None of them starting to bash Arnold for being a mass monster ( he was for his era) legends like Reg Park, Reeves were a class act for the new Austrian champ 250 Arnold.  


Today, Arnold can't do the same.
Supplements industry just want to push their products.
 
And Joe Weider is gone so no one will focus on building interesting characters in the bb arena.

[muscleman-2013]

He's not the IFBB. He can only do so much.  Arnold has stated many times that he's disgusted with BB today.

They're going to promote whatever makes them the most money.  Schmoes want to see muscle. Hell I'm sure a lot of the judges are schmoes. If Arnold personally started meddling around,  he could get in trouble. Especially if the whole of the IFBB wants something else.

Ka Ching!

[muscleman-2013]

Arnold starting to believe his own hype. What was his talent apart from body building? he couldn't act for sh1t, and I very much doubt he was any great shakes as a politician(?) he was just in the right place at the right time and things snowballed.

It's like the manufactured pop bands that hit it big like one direction or the spice girls, they have no more talent than the thousands of other generic pop groups that amount to nothing , they just happen to capture the public's imagination at that moment. It's not because they have any great talent.

You are an ignorant moron.

[FermiDirac]

The freaks pull in the crowds.  Crowds = Money

Yes and the crowd consists of grown men worshipping other men in thongs, i.e. schmoes.

Please the schmoes, the path of least resistance when it comes to maximizing revenues in bodybuilding related matters.

[Pet shop boys]

Yes and the crowd consists of grown men worshipping other men in thongs, i.e. schmoes.

Please the schmoes, the path of least resistance when it comes to maximizing revenues in bodybuilding related matters.

LOL.....


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H

[Icelord]

people see the Mr.Olympia contest (super bowl of Bodybuilding)  and all they can  think/say is  " the one that uses more drugs will win" based on Arnold comment since they don't need talent whatsoever.

A superbowl that's only available via webcast through the website bodybuilding.com

lol

some sport

[Icelord]

Arnold starting to believe his own hype. What was his talent apart from body building? he couldn't act for sh1t, and I very much doubt he was any great shakes as a politician(?) he was just in the right place at the right time and things snowballed.

It's like the manufactured pop bands that hit it big like one direction or the spice girls, they have no more talent than the thousands of other generic pop groups that amount to nothing , they just happen to capture the public's imagination at that moment. It's not because they have any great talent.

All true. He also benefited from his marriage to the Kennedy family. That shouldn't be underestimated. A guy who liked to cheat and fuck around as much as Arnold wouldn't have stayed married to his wife for so long without a very good reason.

If it wasn't for the Shrivers' connections to Hollywood, Arnie would be selling protein-enhanced cookies from a cupboard-sized supplement store on Sunset blvd.

[kofo]

kills the whole purpose of selling bodybuilding as something remotely respectable to mainstream media/audiences. 

Whats the point of selling it to the mainstream ?

[Simple Simon]

Whats the point of selling it to the mainstream ?

Bodybuilding is a seedy dumbass sport, exposing it to the mainstream would just bring further ridicule.

[FermiDirac]

Bodybuilding is a seedy dumbass sport, exposing it to the mainstream would just bring further ridicule.

B...b...but beddybelding is so hard, those guys on the stage are all warriors. 

[Dogma2010]

They dont see the talent behind it.

Some of here actually have used our bodies for more than just the gym. He based the movie because it was a pretty bad example. The top guy was a prima donna who rivals Mariah Carey when it comes to behaving like a diva. It made it look ridiculous. At least Pumping Iron they were having fun. One guy literally goes "they are all idiots so I'm gonna outscience everyone". Yeah....ok big guy

No wonder it made little money...

[Pet shop boys]

All true. He also benefited from his marriage to the Kennedy family. That shouldn't be underestimated. A guy who liked to cheat and fuck around as much as Arnold wouldn't have stayed married to his wife for so long without a very good reason.

If it wasn't for the Shrivers' connections to Hollywood, Arnie would be selling protein-enhanced cookies from a cupboard-sized supplement store on Sunset blvd.

You forgot the $20.00 pictures at "the Oak table" at the Expos.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BEYEYE

[hench]

people like to take away from arnold but he was a millionaire through real estate long before he was a hollywood star
 

All true. He also benefited from his marriage to the Kennedy family. That shouldn't be underestimated. A guy who liked to cheat and fuck around as much as Arnold wouldn't have stayed married to his wife for so long without a very good reason.

If it wasn't for the Shrivers' connections to Hollywood, Arnie would be selling protein-enhanced cookies from a cupboard-sized supplement store on Sunset blvd.

[Icelord]

people like to take away from arnold but he was a millionaire through real estate long before he was a hollywood star
 

It was a joke because he had made money off his catalog mail-order business and the few properties he owned. But don't misunderstand it. There is no freaking way a guy of his limited resources could've become a near-billionaire and world-famous megastar without the film connection. Even in 1985 when he was promoting Commando, he wasn't well known outside North America. Terminator II did that.

Arnold's good at making people like/trust him. He's always been shrewd. Consider there were better BBers in central Europe in the late 1960s, yet Joe Weider chose him for a residency visa which started his entire career. If he'd stayed in Austria, he'd be a welder today. So he's good at insinuating himself with anyone who can help him get ahead. That's worth five college degrees.

Even bodybuilding was just a tool to get his name out there and stand out among the crowd. Which in the 70s wasn't hard because BB was pretty much concentrated on the southern California scene and no one looked as freaky as he did. But once he found a new source of income, he dropped the sport. That's what sets him apart from all the other guys who pursue it as a "career." They don't know how to parlay it into anything else. It's an end in itself.

[Pet shop boys]

If the movie was about Arnold instead of the likes of Phil and the "new gang" , I seriously doubt he would've have made such comments.



"Ego music, its all about me "



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH  

[The Grim Lifter]

Exactly, Don't forget that Arnold was mr.O at age 23, Ronnie at 34 ! Plus Arnold followed Sergio Olivas path with a smaller waist than his.  In an era When small waist was VERY IMPORTANT.  

Ronnie was the champ after Dorian Yates. So go figure.  

Back at topic at hand, Arnold is being a hater. He just don't want to give credit to any of today's champs. Fearing he can create a bigger image than his in this sport.

Champs from the 60's were a lot smaller than Arnold.  None of them starting to bash Arnold for being a mass monster ( he was for his era) legends like Reg Park, Reeves were a class act for the new Austrian champ 250 Arnold.  


Today, Arnold can't do the same.
Supplements industry just want to push their products.
 
And Joe Weider is gone so no one will focus on building interesting characters in the bb arena.

Ronnie had a tiny waist in 1998 and 1999. He went to improve from there. Arnold improved a little but didn't have the competition Ronnie did and didn't need to do much.

[TestDummy]

Kai greene walking around new york in panties and a white mask posing in public doesnt help the cause

Exactly! Kai looked like a complete idiot in film, and Branch falling off his horse hahahahaha I must have watched that part 20 times and still couldn't stop laughing!

[Sophus]

Exactly, Don't forget that Arnold was mr.O at age 23, Ronnie at 34 ! Plus Arnold followed Sergio Olivas path with a smaller waist than his.  In an era When small waist was VERY IMPORTANT.  

Ronnie was the champ after Dorian Yates. So go figure.  

Back at topic at hand, Arnold is being a hater. He just don't want to give credit to any of today's champs. Fearing he can create a bigger image than his in this sport.

Champs from the 60's were a lot smaller than Arnold.  None of them starting to bash Arnold for being a mass monster ( he was for his era) legends like Reg Park, Reeves were a class act for the new Austrian champ 250 Arnold.  


Today, Arnold can't do the same.
Supplements industry just want to push their products.
 
And Joe Weider is gone so no one will focus on building interesting characters in the bb arena.

Ronnie actually had a better waist to shoulder ratio than Arnold when he first won the O.

Same year

[Earl1972]

arnold transcends bodybuilding, if he wanted this sport to change it would change

the problem is arnold doesn't care enough to make changes, he does his show every year and then he moves on to more glamorous activities

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[wikkedonez]

I remember watching a video with Arnold on you tube ...I can't remember the one but he drives around Venice Beach and shows all the hot spots and the wall him and Franco built when
they worked construction. ...then he called Franco lazy cause he
didn't want to train twice a day so he got a new partner ...haha

[Pet shop boys]

arnold transcends bodybuilding, if he wanted this sport to change it would change

the problem is arnold doesn't care enough to make changes, he does his show every year and then he moves on to more glamorous activities

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Making changes in the sport would mean passing the torch on to a new bodybuilder.  And making said bodybuilder the new face, somewhat marketable ....

The " Arnold's sports festival " has a big picture of Arnold in it then his name......






Wooosshhhhhh.  Barracuda mode

[hench]

But he's even more involved in bodybuilding now than before with 3 Arnold classics per year, we now have the Europe and Aussie version launches in March.
If it was all down to Arnold you know there'd be no guts and synthol etc on stage but he's not the Be all and end all and the ifbb Ultimately need  to usher in the change in judging criteria.

arnold transcends bodybuilding, if he wanted this sport to change it would change

the problem is arnold doesn't care enough to make changes, he does his show every year and then he moves on to more glamorous activities

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[Meaningless]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcMJCmSw8H8

Dont know how to make the video come up... I think this pissed off Arnold alot, Dexter at 2008 ASC

[The_Punisher]

I remember reading on Flex Mag sometime in the mid 90's at the Arnold Classic where Arnold was on stage and as he was speaking, he acknowledge Dorian was in the Crowd and he said to the Crowd: we have 6 time Mr Olympia here"....he didn't address Dorian by name....Dorian didn't like this of course.... ......I'm sure it was Arnold way of saying I'm still the best, you British Punk