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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #75 on: April 27, 2014, 06:54:23 AM »
Dear BigRo,

I appreciate what you are saying but psychologically it is extremely difficult for me to have any forms of carbs in my diet without wanting to eat more and more carbs.

It creates cravings in me which I can't control.

I don't have this problem when my blood sugar levels are stable and don't eat carbs at all (apart from veg etc)

Kind regards

What are you a little girl? That's what  BB is about, dedication and dieting! If you cant control that than you are already in the wrong game!

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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #76 on: April 27, 2014, 06:57:21 AM »


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Hahahaha but way better looking then the English Ant eater!!

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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #77 on: April 27, 2014, 07:02:22 AM »
I just goggled it, I was correct in my first assumption that it is insulin, I have never had any experience with insulin and not something I am prepared to even contemplate as I heard many bad things.

I am not even on that level yet. I just want a good beach body, nothing special.

Even when I took GH it made my fasting glucose levels jump up to pre-diabetic levels so I discontinued it.

It's fully possible that I might even have pre-diabetes hence why I struggle so much with carbs.

You must not forget I was 253lb obese and abused food sugar for many years and had pretty fucked up lifestyle before I started training again.

Thank you for the constructive criticisms and input in this thread Simon.

Best Regards





What an dumbass!!  Constructive criticism and best regards, blahblahblahblahbalh.WTf?? hahaha this is one sick puppy! Here for you ! You have earned it!!:

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« Reply #78 on: April 27, 2014, 07:04:19 AM »

Part of my bail condition with the Ronfather is that I must me "nice" and abide by all rules.

I have turned over a new leaf.

People can change you know. ;D



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« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2014, 08:11:08 AM »
That's a lot of calories for no carbs.

Without a caloric deficit, the body will just use the dietary fats for energy and won't tap the stored fat.
Then why bother with keto at all? Just go low-calorie with a balanced diet that has glycogen in it. You'll lose a similar amount of weight. Keto's stupid, I'm never doing it again.

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« Reply #80 on: April 27, 2014, 08:16:37 AM »
Like Joon, I am pretty carb-sensitive and it took me several months to drop them all. For a while, I was pure paleo and dropped about 35 fast, but it does take it's toll in the gym.

Now I go between 100g and 200g a day. The secret for me is NO BINGING. My will is unbreakable. It is so powerful, that if I need to have a piece of cake for a social engagement, it will be only one and done.

I prefer oats (been using the Halo powdered oats in protein shakes...very cool) and rice or sweet potatoes. No wheat: bread or pasta.

Getting there is hard, staying there isn't that bad.

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« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2014, 08:25:28 AM »
When you gonna post up some pics bad boy?

Gives us a cheeky little bicep shot.

Lets have like Halo vs Flint cock comparison show in 3 months time and hit all the poses.

Also I noticed while I was on little "vacation" u putting words in my mouth again saying I said I can do 10-12 reps shoulder press @ 225, I never said that I said 6-8, although now probably by shoulder get better I can get more maybe.

Post up dem pics bad boy, post up dem pic.





No pics, sorry. I am my worst critic, so I probably not capable of being satisfied with my appearance. Plus, my fragile ego couldn't handle the abuse.

I thought you said 10 @ 225. My bad. If you recall, I did express doubts at the time. That said, Flint shut me up with his 15@225, so I am willing to believe.

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« Reply #82 on: April 27, 2014, 08:34:07 AM »

C'mon bro no one gonna judge one little bicep shot all I ask! :)

I got first cockvein come up on right bicep, my forearms getting nice and veiny like halos, looks sick.

Fuck were we thinking being natty all those years?  ::)



Yes, natty seems pointless now. I promise I will post a bicep shot when it warrants being posted. Maybe even a torso shot  :-\

Edit: just for you Joon. Un pumped. No idea the size now. Started natty at 17"


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« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2014, 11:18:37 AM »
Yes, natty seems pointless now. I promise I will post a bicep shot when it warrants being posted. Maybe even a torso shot  :-\

Edit: just for you Joon. Un pumped. No idea the size now. Started natty at 17"


Arm is odd. One the one hand, the specter of the double bicep heads is visible, which usually is only seen on very lean bodies. Very nice. On the other hand, there's still a telltale cushion of fat between the elbow crease and bicep insertion. It's like people who are clearly not ripped but have veins all over their arms. Weird.

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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2014, 11:32:41 AM »
Yes, natty seems pointless now. I promise I will post a bicep shot when it warrants being posted. Maybe even a torso shot  :-\

Edit: just for you Joon. Un pumped. No idea the size now. Started natty at 17"



nothing to be ashamed of their bro

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« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2014, 12:46:02 PM »
Arm is odd. One the one hand, the specter of the double bicep heads is visible, which usually is only seen on very lean bodies. Very nice. On the other hand, there's still a telltale cushion of fat between the elbow crease and bicep insertion. It's like people who are clearly not ripped but have veins all over their arms. Weird.

Maybe an age thing? I am 49. I have relatively thin skin on my arms, but am lacking in vascularity. The biceps do have a decent shape, which is why they frequently look bigger than the are.

Anyway, when I get bigger/leaner, maybe will post more.

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« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2014, 12:47:40 PM »

Whooosshhhhhhhhhh! Great guns.

Bro you probably have better biceps than me...lol, but my triceps better than yours.

You got up your triceps.

Good sport for posting. ;D




My tris are a little behind, but it ain't for trying. I can't do a lot of direct tricep movements (skull crushers) due to elbow tendinitis, but I do a lot of dips, ring dips, close-grip bench, etc.

As this deliberately (semi-anonymous) shitty pic shows, the tris sorta come out at times



My delts seem to want to overwhelm. Yes, that's grey hair.

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« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2014, 12:47:46 PM »

That bit between elbow is skin not fat, he was probably fat before like me, x fat people get thick skin so you confuse them to be more fat than they really are because of the thick skin, I have same problem.

Lots of Arimidex helps thin the skin but the loss of libido and feel like shit factor not worth it.

I prefer little bit more swole look anyway.


No, it's fat.

This is what a truly lean arm looks like. It is setting the bar high, and few look like this, but this is it.


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« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2014, 12:49:30 PM »
Maybe an age thing? I am 49. I have relatively thin skin on my arms, but am lacking in vascularity. The biceps do have a decent shape, which is why they frequently look bigger than the are.

Anyway, when I get bigger/leaner, maybe will post more.
Pretty big for 49 then.

And yeah, the older you get, the thinner your skin gets in certain areas. Hands and feet are a prime example. It's due to loss of collagen.

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« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2014, 12:56:57 PM »

Completely opposite he doesn't need get thinner, if you get thinner skin become even more lose, only way is to get bigger and fill it with muscle and get volumised effect.

It's not fat issue, even if he was 6% BF that skin gonna be there and would look even worse.

The bigger you get the better for lose skin.

Unless he was obese like you, his skin wouldn't sag. I've seen 50 year olds using P90X or Blowflex machines who have skin tightness I've personally never had. Even if they're on gear, it doesn't matter. Anyway the skin thinning I mentioned merely because it makes older people more vascular. I've seen old women with veiny arms.

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« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2014, 01:01:15 PM »
Unless he was obese like you, his skin wouldn't sag. I've seen 50 year olds using P90X or Blowflex machines who have skin tightness I've personally never had. Even if they're on gear, it doesn't matter. Anyway the skin thinning I mentioned merely because it makes older people more vascular. I've seen old women with veiny arms.

Never been obese. I've been 245, but at 6'3" and wide shoulders, I carried it ok. Was a fucking fatass, but looked ok in clothes.

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« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2014, 01:03:35 PM »

Completely opposite he doesn't need get thinner, if you get thinner skin become even more lose, only way is to get bigger and fill it with muscle and get volumised effect.

It's not fat issue, even if he was 6% BF that skin gonna be there and would look even worse.

The bigger you get the better for lose skin.


This sounds wrong to me. I still aspire to be leaner than I am. More muscle, for sure, but def leaner.

How the fuck did this thread become about me?

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« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2014, 01:04:14 PM »
Never been obese. I've been 245, but at 6'3" and wide shoulders, I carried it ok. Was a fucking fatass, but looked ok in clothes.
I've been 240 at 5'9" and I had a 35" waist and visible abs holding water. Unless you were a beanpole who gained just fat, which I doubt, then you weren't fat  at that height. It's the equivalent of me being like 160.

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« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2014, 01:05:37 PM »
This sounds wrong to me. I still aspire to be leaner than I am. More muscle, for sure, but def leaner.

How the fuck did this thread become about me?
pic-whoring your arms can do that. See, your instincts were right. Don't do it! This is a shark tank.

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« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2014, 01:05:37 PM »
This sounds wrong to me. I still aspire to be leaner than I am. More muscle, for sure, but def leaner.

How the fuck did this thread become about me?

Of course its fucking wrong, check the source.

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« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2014, 01:05:37 PM »

That bit between elbow is skin not fat, he was probably fat before like me, x fat people get thick skin so you confuse them to be more fat than they really are because of the thick skin, I have same problem.

Lots of Arimidex helps thin the skin but the loss of libido and feel like shit factor not worth it.

I prefer little bit more swole look anyway.


It`s always the solution to add a new compound into the mix these days.....hence why so many people are fucked up taking a pill to get charged up and then another to calm down and sleep,etc. etc.

Here`s a tip,a good diet and cardio will help thin skin also.

GENERATION NOTHINGNESS

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« Reply #96 on: April 27, 2014, 01:06:17 PM »
good back aj, looking big

just cut back on the bon bons ;D

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« Reply #97 on: April 27, 2014, 01:07:32 PM »
AJ,looking good buddy,hardly anything to be ashamed of,quite the opposite actually.

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« Reply #98 on: April 27, 2014, 01:09:45 PM »
It`s always the solution to add a new compound into the mix these days.....hence why so many people are fucked up taking a pill to get charged up and then another to calm down and sleep,etc. etc.

Here`s a tip,a good diet and cardio will help thin skin also.

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Thanks Wes. Gonna up the conditioning now that the weather is getting warm and my achilles finally feels ready. The diet is almost 100% on point, grrrrr.

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« Reply #99 on: April 27, 2014, 01:10:39 PM »

Bullshit I am not talking about goons taking GH for long time, don't confuse issue by "what you have seen" bollox.
You lost. Move along, cócknose.