Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!

[_aj_]

Losing fat and skin elasticity is completely separate issue, you don't understand what I am talking about and no disrespect 245lb even at 6-3 is overweight if not obese.

You can be 6% bodyfat @ 180lb or 6% bodyfat at 220lb, if you have skin elasticity issues which it looks like you do, you always gonna look better in terms of skin elasticity at the higher weight.

It's a subtle point.

I think at my age, my skin's elasticity's ship has sailed. And I am not gonna do GH.

[Icelord]

I think at my age, my skin's elasticity's ship has sailed. And I am not gonna do GH.

you look fine, you're just not shredded. Who the fuck is at your age? very few. Just keep lifting heavy and eat a little less.

[_aj_]

you look fine, you're just not shredded. Who the fuck is at your age? very few. Just keep lifting heavy and eat a little less.

Looking at what that poor bastard Navy Mike is going through, I have no desire to be shredded, even for 10 minutes. Would live to live out my days with 18" arms, 10% BF and a visible, but not ripped, 4 pack. I would be fine with that. I think that is doable.

[Simple Simon]

You should seriously consider GH, don't listen to bullshit simple simon lies about like a fake natty about how he only on 250mg test, you can tell immediately he's on the GH, give me a break! He lies about what he takes to save face.

Yes if you take GH you can take much lower steroid dose and still get good gains.

Also don't forget he built the muscle at much higher doses to begin with over many years and now he just cruising to maintain.

Don't let them bullshit you out of success you deserve by trying to scare you.

Really , how ?

[Icelord]

Looking at what that poor bastard Navy Mike is going through, I have no desire to be shredded, even for 10 minutes. Would live to live out my days with 18" arms, 10% BF and a visible, but not ripped, 4 pack. I would be fine with that. I think that is doable.

What galeniko does to maintain his condition is even more draconian than what mike is doing, since he's a rookie dieter. I would do it but not year-round. Maybe for the summer.

[Icelord]

lol, junior showing some claws in this thread. Nice guy act melting like a microwaved scone on a stovetop.

[Simple Simon]

lol, junior showing some claws in this thread. Nice guy act melting like a microwaved scone on a stovetop.

He will be back in timeout by Friday.   

[wes]

Thanks Wes. Gonna up the conditioning now that the weather is getting warm and my achilles finally feels ready. The diet is almost 100% on point, grrrrr.

BEAST MODE MY BROTHER.......BEAST MODE!!!!!!!!!!!

[wes]

Really , how ?

I can tell by your big huge GH gut.

[wes]

Here`s a good plan that I used last year:

I got shredded for a contest that I never made it to.....long story.

Rather than just look halfway decent (for me anyway,I know I`m a nobody),I decided to eat ultra clean just like I did during my prep,BUT,in the middle of the week,I ate one cheat meal which would consist of anything I felt like eating,then right backk on the diet.

On one of the weekend days, (I picked Sunday ),I would eat whatever I wanted to eat all day and all night long,then right back on the diet again on Monday.

I did zero cardio,minimal gear,and I stayed between 5-6 % bf all year long.

If you decide to do something along these lines,get lean first,then on the cheat meal/cheat day thingy,eat what you want,but keep it sane as far as portion size is concerned.

[Icelord]

Here`s a good plan that I used last year:

I got shredded for a contest that I never made it to.....long story.

Rather than just look halfway decent (for me anyway,I know I`m a nobody),I decided to eat ultra clean just like I did during my prep,BUT,in the middle of the week,I ate one cheat meal which would consist of anything I felt like eating,then right backk on the diet.

On one of the weekend days, (I picked Sunday ),I would eat whatever I wanted to eat all day and all night long,then right back on the diet again on Monday.

I did zero cardio,minimal gear,and I stayed between 5-6 % bf all year long.

If you decide to do something along these lines,get lean first,then on the cheat meal/cheat day thingy,eat what you want,but keep it sane as far as portion size is concerned.

That takes a lot of willpower, though. Especially to get back on the wagon after that one meal you allow yourself. Most couldn't do it.

[_aj_]

That takes a lot of willpower, though. Especially to get back on the wagon after that one meal you allow yourself. Most couldn't do it.

I eat 2 small pieces of pizza a week on Sundays with my son. Same place, same pizza. The rest of the time, I am pretty damn clean. 200-250g protein, 100-200g carbs and fats to 2300-2500 cals.

And yet...not ripped (yet!)

[Simple Simon]

The skin condition, the water retention, you have all the classic tell tale signs of GH use. You think you look like a normal 50 year old on TRT dose, giving me a fucking break, you can troll bullshit all you want but you can't pull wool over my eyes when it comes to serious matters.

Post picture of your feet and hands.

You know perfectly well you didn't build your physique on 200mg test every 10 days.

Off course taking years of AA's and GH over long time going to build muscle and you are going to keep a good portion of it later after many years cruising on lower dose but don't try fool people to say that's how you got there in the first place.

I call you bluff and you know you are full of shit.

I pay for you to go have blood works at lab of my choosing and lets see what your IGF-1 levels read TRT boy. Lmao

and there goes junior think money will solve all his problems yet again.

I had my bloods done on 10th April
My test level was 12.5

What does that tell you big nose?

[_aj_]

good back aj, looking big

just cut back on the bon bons

Thanks man, how's the job working for ya?

My back is plenty strong and has some detail showing. Not thick at all. I am 2D!

[wes]

That takes a lot of willpower, though. Especially to get back on the wagon after that one meal you allow yourself. Most couldn't do it.

It is tough,but I dieted so long for that contest,it became almost commonplace.

That's all good and well and solid advice but you cannot compare someone who already has built a significant level of muscle mass through many years of training and AA's use and tell essentially a noob that he only needs to take a minimal amount of gear "to get there"

This what gets my goat because its hypocritical at best.

No offense to Wes I actually like him.

You over emphasize the role of diet and training and down play the many years of drug use that got you there.

Compare apples with apples not apples with oranges for fuck's sake.

You`ll learn,hopefully not the hard way.

Don`t be another Bostin Lloyd,because trust me,he won`t be training or competing long...if he does last in this game,I`d be highly surprised.

I`ve been training forever and competing for decades Joon,this alone means nothing,but the people I`ve met in this sport have taught me a lot, and starting off on high doses,usually with no foundation or a total lack of training (not in your case),and eating anything and everything in an effort to make the numbers on a scale increase,with no regard if said weight is fat or muscle,is a recipe for looking decent for a year or two only to be never heard from again.

Seen it a million times..........it`s a lifestyle,not a year or two style.  

[Simple Simon]

I don't give a fuck about your test levels I want to know what your IGF-1 levels are at.

It's irrelevant anyway, anyone can say anything.

I am not being a hater, in fact I am an admirer and even pm'd you saying you have terrific physique.

But in all of your posts you keep down playing the doses and role of AA's to noobs and overemphasizing diet and training etc.

I don't wanna talk about GH15 on this board but even he said its huge mistake to stay in rut taking 250-500mg test etc for long time.

Eventually sooner or later you gonna have to up the dose so no need for the bullshit and time wasting.

I am not saying be stupid and do a Bostin Lloyd but equally you are down playing doses and reality way to much for my liking.

Regards

 

Well bearing in mind you have been taking gear for 5 weeks I suppose I will have to bow down to your undoubted experience and knowledge on the subject.

Look junior, what does my test level of 12.5 say?

Come on Mr expert.

[Icelord]

lol
junior: post your stats
other person: *posts stats*
junior: it's irrelevant anyway

[wes]

I don't give a fuck about your test levels I want to know what your IGF-1 levels are at.

It's irrelevant anyway, anyone can say anything.

I am not being a hater, in fact I am an admirer and even pm'd you saying you have terrific physique.

But in all of your posts you keep down playing the doses and role of AA's to noobs and overemphasizing diet and training etc.

I don't wanna talk about GH15 on this board but even he said its huge mistake to stay in rut taking 250-500mg test etc for long time.

Eventually sooner or later you gonna have to up the dose so no need for the bullshit and time wasting.

I am not saying be stupid and do a Bostin Lloyd but equally you are down playing doses and reality way to much for my liking.

Regards

 

Of course you`ll need to up the dosage but not after 5 fucking weeks! 

You`ll burn out or soon be running 2 grams of Test with a zit covered body,perpetual hardon,and as hairy as Bigfoot.

You`re gonna` mutate into a freak....let`s hope that nose doesn`t grow any bigger! 

I`m losing it! 

[wes]

Have a good evening sir.

Translation:
I`m stumped and quite pissed off.................and may even make another scary video threatening to kill someone! 

[Simple Simon]

What reference range you are using quoting and how do I know you are telling the truth anyway?

It irrelevant I don't care, AJ is my friend and I want him to success that is all.

End of they day everyone makes their own choices.

Have a good evening sir

No lets go with this mr fucking big mouth, you claim I dont use 200mgs of test every 10 days, Im telling you I have had bloods done and my test levels are 12.5 the Ref ranges state (10.0 - 35.0)

So, whats my results tell you.

[Simple Simon]

Its shit low is what it tells me if true.

And what does that tell you?

[wes]

Thanks bother I appreciate those comments and if I can be around or look as good as you in years to come then that would be a great achievement, you know I have lot of respect for you and maybe you are right and I am over zealous and anxious to get to where I wanna get quicker than I should, probably from years of frustration training natty and when you suddenly get a bit of results you can wait to have more and more.

I love you man (no homo)

Thanks you big sweaty man,I`m honestly just trying to help you while fucking around being an idiot having fun at the same time.

[wes]

Simon,I`m still waiting on the pics of your hands and feet.   

[Simple Simon]

Simon,I`m still waiting on the pics of your hands and feet.   

veiny feet and wrinkly hands   

[Simple Simon]

That your off cycle???  

Put it this way mine were 19.4 when I was natty (about 6 months ago taken) but obviously I am 35, 19.4 was ok, should have been around 22 ish for me for optimal, I have to look at chart to see what they should be for 50 year old man but guessing from memory it won't be lower than say between 16-18 ish, so basically it tells me the gear fucked your natural test production and you need TRT.

Not sure 200mg every 10 days will cut for you although that's fairly standard for most people, but you are not standard so I say unless you have underlying medical issues consult with your doctor to get into optimal range.

Bingo, I had been off for around 4 weeks, so now what does that tell you about my dosage use?