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« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2014, 02:13:47 PM »
That your off cycle???  ;D

Put it this way mine were 19.4 when I was natty (about 6 months ago taken) but obviously I am 35, 19.4 was ok, should have been around 22 ish for me for optimal, I have to look at chart to see what they should be for 50 year old man but guessing from memory it won't be lower than say between 16-18 ish, so basically it tells me the gear fucked your natural test production and you need TRT.

Not sure 200mg every 10 days will cut for you although that's fairly standard for most people, but you are not standard so I say unless you have underlying medical issues consult with your doctor to get into optimal range and up the dose.

You are deluded if you think you will ever get back in range at your age natty


hahaha, why the fuck would you have memorised that you daft twat.

You just fucking Googled it you prick.

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« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2014, 02:15:22 PM »
Is there even an average for a 50 year old man? Testosterone levels vary sharply by individual. Hard to make a bell curve with it. Not to mention you don't compare an off again, on again user's production with someone who's never used synthetic hormones.

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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2014, 02:18:49 PM »
Being very cryptic here, not sure what you are getting at, I have no idea what the fuck you have done to yourself over the years and what where your at? I imagine you need to be on HRT and find optimal range or your just blasting an cruising.

Tell me what you test levels are at when you are on! ;D

If you saying you don't take GH then I would highly recommend you start Genotropin course, it will solve a lot of your problems.


He's saying his current free testosterone levels (as opposed to DHT and other test precursors or derivatives, separate topic) correspond to someone who is not using steroids in a high amount, or is off. You said he was using way more.

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« Reply #128 on: April 27, 2014, 02:24:02 PM »
Being very cryptic here, not sure what you are getting at, I have no idea what the fuck you have done to yourself over the years and what where your at? I imagine you need to be on HRT and find optimal range or your just blasting an cruising.

Tell me what you test levels are at when you are on! ;D

If you saying you don't take GH then I would highly recommend you start Genotropin course, it will solve a lot of your problems.



No its just that you are a bit fucking thick.
Genotropin solving my problems?
I dont have any problems you idiot.

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« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2014, 02:26:56 PM »
Its a stupid point to tell me he is test levels are 12.5 when he is off????? Duh!

I want to know what they are when he is on.

If anything it proves my point that he took much more gear over the years (big fucking surprise being a bodybuilder) than he is letting on that when he stopped his test levels even at standard HRT dose are in the gutter.

That's what happens, its no mystery, price you pay being a bodybuilder, nothing in life is for free or without consequence.

I still wish him the best

Icelord has just explained it to you, if my test levels are so low after only 4 weeks off thats a clear indication I wasnt using high doses when off.

Do you want to put your money where your mouth is over the GH accusations?
Make an appointment for me at a lab in my area and I will attend and you can get the results, if its negative for GH you pay £50,000 to a charity of my choice.

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« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2014, 02:39:23 PM »
lol
"don't mean to patronize you. Now, let me tell you everything I see wrong about your life, you worthless drug-addicted git."

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« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2014, 02:45:23 PM »
I don't mean this disrespectfully so don't get me wrong I am not trying to patronize you but you have to ultimately accept you are getting to an age where potentially you could have many health issues arising from your years of steroid abuse.

Now ultimately you are going to have to take your chances and stay on whatever doses are optimal for you or gradually look at lowering to respectful TRT dose allowing you to not feel like total shit, yet obviously realizing the fact that you won't have that dream body anymore.


Happens to the best of them and nothing to be ashamed of.

My point about GH is that there is feel good factor with GH, will allow you to recover better, sleep better, improve libido etc and have a synergistic effect with your TRT dose of test and the risks of low dose GH use are considerably less risky than AA use and in many cases reverse some of the damage cause by AA use over the years, be it kidney, liver, heart....whatever.

Furthermore (and I am trolling on this point) maybe you won't be a miserable bastard anymore and will have more active lifestyle and not spend all god given hours trolling on Getbig.

I have an excuse cos I'm making money as we speak, you my good friend are simply bored.

And like I said I wish you the best.

Big hugs and kisses (no homo)
Mwah x0x0x0x






Exactly why you are a shit troll, we have established in this thread that I dont abuse steroids, I competed at National level on 750mgs a week.
I have always used low to moderate dosages over the years, in fact only once have I used over a gram and I didnt even notice the difference than the 600mgs I was running at the time.


As for the last bit, there is more to life than money, theres relationships, friends, social life with people who like you for you, unfortunately you will never experience that because of your social ineptability.

So you dont want to put your vast wealth up to prove a point?

£50,000 to my charity of choice if I am clean for GH?

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« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2014, 02:46:45 PM »
lol
"don't mean to patronize you. Now, let me tell you everything I see wrong about your life, you worthless drug-addicted git."

 ;)

Oh hes not getting off the hook now.   ;D

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« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2014, 02:47:53 PM »

Aha, I see Simple Simon has finally cracked, talking about the taboo subject of money now. Christ I must be on good form tonight.

I think this Junior 2 update version is much better than the old "beta" one.  ;D

In respect of your challenge I am going to have to decline the kind offer because it is too daft, unrealistic and can be manipulated in too many ways.

Put your money where your mouth is, call a truce with me on this board, donate a sensible amount of money to charity of your choice and I will match as gesture of good will.

Kind regards


Truce, Im calling you out, you made an accusation about me so now you need to back it up to save face, if you want to back down just apologise and fuck off.

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« Reply #134 on: April 27, 2014, 02:49:40 PM »
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in respect of your challenge I am going to have to decline the kind offer because it is too daft, unrealistic and can be manipulated in too many ways.
Wasnt it your idea?


I call you bluff and you know you are full of shit.

I pay for you to go have blood works at lab of my choosing and lets see what your IGF-1 levels read TRT boy. Lmao


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« Reply #135 on: April 27, 2014, 02:50:12 PM »

Noted!

Was it a drug tested how?

Post the contest pics to prove


 ???

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« Reply #136 on: April 27, 2014, 02:52:35 PM »
Sorry typo, meant show, fixed in original post.

Yep, fuck off big nose.

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Re: Best way to "transition" from high carb diet into ketogenic diet!
« Reply #137 on: April 27, 2014, 02:52:51 PM »
Junior just stop. You were better when you were posting emotional threads about BS. This is just straight trolling without a purpose. It's stale after a day.

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« Reply #138 on: April 27, 2014, 02:54:14 PM »
Junior just stop. You were better when you were posting emotional threads about BS. This is just straight trolling without a purpose. It's stale after a day.

Hes just a stupid twat, hes just showing everyone his hand, and he thinks hes a good poker player.     ;D

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« Reply #139 on: April 27, 2014, 02:56:47 PM »
What reference range you are using quoting and how do I know you are telling the truth anyway?

It irrelevant I don't care, AJ is my friend and I want him to success that is all.

End of they day everyone makes their own choices.

Have a good evening sir



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« Reply #140 on: April 27, 2014, 03:01:00 PM »

Is this where I go quiet? ??? ???

This won't end well. :-*

But ok I am going to concede defeat once again since there is no way for me to know or prove you do or do not take GH and I am not going through the hassle to prove otherwise something essentially i don't very much care about.

I think the finer point here has been lost in translation which is that AJ needs to have his expectations set straight about what is realistically achievable at the dose he is at (250mg test weekly) and not believe what everyone tells him as gospel.

Regardless, I apologize to Simple Simon, am backing down like the pussy that I am and fooking off for fear that it might cost me 50 grand. :o ;D

Kind regards

See you in 2 hours

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« Reply #141 on: April 27, 2014, 03:01:39 PM »

Is this where I go quiet? ??? ???

This won't end well. :-*

But ok I am going to concede defeat once again since there is no way for me to know or prove you do or do not take GH and I am not going through the hassle to prove otherwise something essentially i don't very much care about.

I think the finer point here has been lost in translation which is that AJ needs to have his expectations set straight about what is realistically achievable at the dose he is at (250mg test weekly) and not believe what everyone tells him as gospel.

Regardless, I apologize to Simple Simon, am backing down like the pussy that I am and fooking off for fear that it might cost me 50 grand. :o ;D

Kind regards


I am unclear. As you have no idea what my expectations are, how can you know that they need to be "set straight?"

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« Reply #142 on: April 27, 2014, 03:02:11 PM »

Is this where I go quiet? ??? ???

This won't end well. :-*

But ok I am going to concede defeat once again since there is no way for me to know or prove you do or do not take GH and I am not going through the hassle to prove otherwise something essentially i don't very much care about.

I think the finer point here has been lost in translation which is that AJ needs to have his expectations set straight about what is realistically achievable at the dose he is at (250mg test weekly) and not believe what everyone tells him as gospel.

Regardless, I apologize to Simple Simon, am backing down like the pussy that I am and fooking off for fear that it might cost me 50 grand. :o ;D

Kind regards


Isnt this what got you in timeout last time?
Stop making threats or it wont end well for you.   ;)

As for the second bit, how the fuck do you know what will benefit someone else?
You will never know if you could have made the same gains from 250mgs rather than 750mgs,m you blew it big nose.

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« Reply #143 on: April 27, 2014, 03:03:31 PM »
Joon also follow the Markus Ruhl principles of, "fuck everything, I do what I want" by means of his constant smoking and getting pissed at the pubs (or in his attic) while juicing. Smart lad.

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« Reply #145 on: April 27, 2014, 03:07:56 PM »

Is this where I go quiet? ??? ???

This won't end well. :-*

But ok I am going to concede defeat once again since there is no way for me to know or prove you do or do not take GH and I am not going through the hassle to prove otherwise something essentially i don't very much care about.

I think the finer point here has been lost in translation which is that AJ needs to have his expectations set straight about what is realistically achievable at the dose he is at (250mg test weekly) and not believe what everyone tells him as gospel.

Regardless, I apologize to Simple Simon, am backing down like the pussy that I am and fooking off for fear that it might cost me 50 grand. :o ;D

Kind regards

IMO,AJ should run the 250 mgs. until he seems to have plateued,then bump it up to 500 mgs.

This all depends on his goal (s) of course.

He may not want to ever go any higher than the 250 mgs. which is still good enough to keep him in an anabolic state,and is his prerogative.

Dosages should be goal orientated.

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« Reply #146 on: April 27, 2014, 03:08:35 PM »
What reference range you are using quoting and how do I know you are telling the truth anyway?

It irrelevant I don't care, AJ is my friend and I want him to success that is all.

End of they day everyone makes their own choices.

Have a good evening sir


I wonder what if feels like to be stupid? Uj, is it like being drunk all the time?
Have a good evening stupid sir!
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« Reply #147 on: April 27, 2014, 03:09:15 PM »
Junior not sure which way to go now in this thread.

1. Is it all out verbal assault
2. Crazy video
3. Mr Nice guy

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« Reply #148 on: April 27, 2014, 03:10:07 PM »
Have you not noticed my sex addition spiraling out of control recently with ever more frequent visits to various whore houses and talk of my upcoming Getbig themed porno movie with Petra Davis?
Ah, yes. How could I forget.

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« Reply #149 on: April 27, 2014, 03:11:06 PM »
Junior not sure which way to go now in this thread.

1. Is it all out verbal assault
2. Crazy video
3. Mr Nice guy

OOPS..my mistake, its "victim"
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Are you sure you wont come to regret those words about making emotional threads about yet another e-romance?Huh

You have to appreciate the chemical balance has changed, those estrogenic qualities have long subsided.

Have you not noticed my sex addition spiraling out of control recently with ever more frequent visits to various whore houses and talk of my upcoming Getbig themed porno movie with Petra Davis?

Has the old Joon died and been replaced by a newer update?

Time will tell

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