Naturally smaller but getting tighter

[visualizeperfection]

No, That's why I tried running 5-6 week cycles but I cannot fuck around anymore. I came into this life for something else.

to be the savior of getbig?

[the trainer]

No, That's why I tried running 5-6 week cycles but I cannot fuck around anymore. I came into this life for something else.

I agree lifting weights is not your calling, years of steroids and training to look like a skinny guy who does push ups, you have a marathon runners body maybe that is your calling, best of luck.

[bigmc]

No, That's why I tried running 5-6 week cycles but I cannot fuck around anymore. I came into this life for something else.

which is?

[anabolichalo]

sev i'm really surprised how big you got naturally

that takes consistency, a quality you seem to lack nowadays


what happened 

[Cleanest Natural]

sev i'm really surprised how big you got naturally

that takes consistency, a quality you seem to lack nowadays


what happened 

do you mean when I was a teen? 40 yo is what happened 

[Cleanest Natural]

which is?

Learn who I am and was in my totality then help others realize their true nature. This has to be done by every person until theis planet changes for the better. We are living the lowest point as a civilization these days.

[anabolichalo]

do you mean when I was a teen? 40 yo is what happened 

oh well you always have the pictures right

[Cleanest Natural]

oh well you always have the pictures right

as a teen or early 20's you are fuller even natural .. as you get older it gets smaller and flatter .. I am close to 40.

[Simple Simon]

Learn who I am and was in my totality then help others realize their true nature. This has to be done by every person until theis planet changes for the better. We are living the lowest point as a civilization these days.

Yes, I want to go back toiling in the fields for 16 hours a day.

[Cleanest Natural]

Yes, I want to go back toiling in the fields for 16 hours a day.

You have no idea whatsoever what was here before. Zero. All you learned about history is a lie. And we end this conversation here. I extended you the courtesy of a reply like you hand some dude in the other stall the toilet paper.

[tom joad]

Sev, any regrets at all re dabbling with gear for all those years?
What did your experiment/experience with roids personally do for you?
If you could do it all over again, would you still have done all those cycles?  If yes, why?

since you don't want to answer the questions, I guess your answers are:

any regrets re using gear? - yes
what did roids do for you? - nothing good
would you still have done all those past cycles? - no

[Cleanest Natural]

since you don't want to answer the questions, I guess your answers are:

any regrets re using gear? - yes
what did roids do for you? - nothing good
would you still have done all those past cycles? - no

no regrets .. learned a lot... would still use them in different circumstances

they make me muscular

yes I would have done them still

[Simple Simon]

You have no idea whatsoever what was here before. Zero. All you learned about history is a lie. And we end this conversation here. I extended you the courtesy of a reply like you hand some dude in the other stall the toilet paper.

Nope, all you think you know is another lie, its not like you think at all.


See, just like Tennis, back and forth, do you want to discuss Platos cave again?
You just want to come across all learned and wise.

If you were so learned and wise you wouldn't be on a bodybuilding forum posting pictures of all your fag hags.

[Cleanest Natural]

 

Nope, all you think you know is another lie, its not like you think at all.


See, just like Tennis, back and forth, do you want to discuss Platos cave again?
You just want to come across all learned and wise.

If you were so learned and wise you wouldn't be on a bodybuilding forum posting pictures of all your fag hags.

you are quite resentful for a "troll" 

[bigmc]

Learn who I am and was in my totality then help others realize their true nature. This has to be done by every person until theis planet changes for the better. We are living the lowest point as a civilization these days.

how do you learn through the teachings of others?

and how do you know their teachings are accurate?

also are you taking about complete self awareness as we are or is an elevation of awareness needed to grasp the concept of our self.

[Simple Simon]

how do you learn through the teachings of others?

and how do you know their teachings are accurate?

also are you taking about complete self awareness as we are or is an elevation of awareness needed to grasp the concept of our self.

Just ask him about Platos cave, it fucks up his whole argument.

[bigmc]

Just ask him about Platos cave, it fucks up his whole argument.

id genuinely like to hear the argument

I envy people that have an unshakeable belief religious or otherwise

I cant see how any one can be anything less than unsure

about the possibility of god or other beliefs like lizards ruling the planet

what I do know is its no more incredible than the fact that there was nothing

then the big bang and now this

if you think about it, its a mind fuck

my belief is that life is just a series of random events

[Simple Simon]

id genuinely like to hear the argument

I envy people that have an unshakeable belief religious or otherwise

I cant see how any one can be anything less than unsure

about the possibility of god or other beliefs like lizards ruling the planet

what I do know is its no more incredible than the fact that there was nothing

then the big bang and now this

if you think about it, its a mind fuck

my belief is that life is just a series of random events

Yep, when you have an infinite number of possibilities then anything can happen.

People like Sev have no argument, he believes he is above everyone else, one of the few enlightened ones.
People occasionally smoke dope or take LSD and come to the same conclusion, although they come to their senses when it wears off , Sevs just too arrogant to admit he might be wrong.

[Conker]

no substitute for elite genetics  

[Cleanest Natural]

how do you learn through the teachings of others?

and how do you know their teachings are accurate?

also are you taking about complete self awareness as we are or is an elevation of awareness needed to grasp the concept of our self.

You make assumptions.I learned from my SELF. You'll get the full story when you'll read my autobiography. Same goes for Simpleton. Let's get back to muscles. I did not come here to enlighten people.

[Icelord]

[Icelord]

Haha why does this twink even go to the gym.

I know people that have never worked out and look the same as him.

To summize,  you look like shit.

Hope this helps.

hahahaha

[Icelord]

how do you learn through the teachings of others?

and how do you know their teachings are accurate?

also are you taking about complete self awareness as we are or is an elevation of awareness needed to grasp the concept of our self.

[Thin Lizzy]

Probably will have to drop the carbs to ~100 to lose that last bit. That's what sucks about being middle-aged and natty. You pretty much have to perfect on the diet to stay lean.

[Cleanest Natural]

Probably will have to drop the carbs to ~100 to lose that last bit. That's what sucks about being middle-aged and natty. You pretty much have to perfect on the diet to stay lean.

True .. will drop carbs to get the "look".. it'll last for 2 weeks then back to at least 150.