GOP civil war rages in Senate primary battles

[OzmO]

Go search any of the mainstream news outlets and find one single example of an article, any article, describing any democrat candidate using the terms i layed out above, or anything close to it. You know, the usual terms they use to describe  republicans.
You wont be able to find one.

The thing is, i don't think your assessment of terms are valid.

Who calls Liberals:  'Hard line liberals' or 'Hard left politician'?   I never heard those terms used.  

But, I agree you might have a point so i did 4 searches on cnn.com

Hard Line conservatives
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=%27Hard%20line%20conservatives%27&intl=true&sortBy=relevance
Hard right politician
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=Hard%20right%20politician&intl=true&sortBy=relevance
Radical elements in the republican party
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=Radical%20elements%20in%20the%20republican%20party&intl=true&sortBy=relevance

All above 0 hits

radical left
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=radical%20left&intl=true&sortBy=relevance

Several hits on "Radical Left"

[Dos Equis]

I am just asking for some examples.  If you can't provide any, it suggests your claim is opinion not fact.

Everything stated in this thread is opinion.  My opinion is based on my observation, reading, watching, etc.

If you disagree, that's fine, but I'm not going to try and prove my opinion to be true.  I agree with what Matrix said.  I posted numerous articles in the thread I linked (and recently bumped). 

The fact there is a liberal bias in the MSM isn't news. 

[OzmO]

Everything stated in this thread is opinion.  My opinion is based on my observation, reading, watching, etc.

If you disagree, that's fine, but I'm not going to try and prove my opinion to be true.  I agree with what Matrix said.  I posted numerous articles in the thread I linked (and recently bumped).  

The fact there is a liberal bias in the MSM isn't news.  

If you can't or won't prove it, what ever.   Guess you see what you want to see. 

[Dos Equis]

If you can't or won't prove it, what ever.   Guess you see what you want to see. 

Why do I need to prove my opinion?  Besides, I provided plenty of examples.

If you are refusing to look at the numerous articles I posted, then you're the one who is actually seeing what you want to see.   

[OzmO]

I did MSNBC:

I hate that site. lol

Hard line conservatives
http://www.msnbc.com/search/Hard%20Line%20conservatives
1 hit
Hard right politician
http://www.msnbc.com/search/Hard%20right%20poltician
0 hits
Radical elements in the republican party
http://www.msnbc.com/search/radical%20elements%20in%20the%20republican%20party
0 hits

Radical left
http://www.msnbc.com/search/radical%20left
2 hits,  1 talking about radical left and right. The other talking about how both sides of the isle critisizing Ted Cruz’s “radical” rhetoric


I guess we just see what we want to see huh?

I could try all your terms, but i don't feel like it. lol

[OzmO]

Why do I need to prove my opinion?  Besides, I provided plenty of examples.

If you are refusing to look at the numerous articles I posted, then you're the one who is actually seeing what you want to see.    

You don't have to do anything.  I simply asked you to provide some examples of " MSM Hard news" doing what you said.  Now, according to you:  "its your "opinion" and you don't have to prove it, show it, need to get paid for it, blah blah blah."

Sorry not going to skim through 211 pages.  Don't get paid enough.    I would think that if you are so sure on your opinion it wouldn't be so hard to post some examples.  After all that's your "thread"

But I did skim a few pages, and most if not all the articles were from "News Busters" a cite dedicated to exposing liberal news bias.  lol   So you directed me to articles form an OPINION site. lol

Can you show some HARD NEWS from MSM or not? 

[Straw Man]

im still waiting for one of the Lefties to explain how cruz is a 'crazy radical extremist'...guess the wait continues

great point

there is nothing extreme or radical about shutting down the entire government over your own personal temper tantrum

that's really just an example of how "mundane" he is

[Kazan]

great point

there is nothing extreme or radical about shutting down the entire government over your own personal temper tantrum

that's really just an example of how "mundane" he is

And what exactly is going to happen if .gov "shuts down"? seems to me being full time politician is a relatively new thing.

[Straw Man]

And what exactly is going to happen if .gov "shuts down"? seems to me being full time politician is a relatively new thing.

I'm not sure I follow you on this

do you think that shutting down the government means that only the politicians stop "working"

btw - I think anytime the government is shut down that all politicians and their staffs should not only not be paid but they should not be able to recover the back pay

Repubs would never shut down the government again

[Dos Equis]

You don't have to do anything.  I simply asked you to provide some examples of " MSM Hard news" doing what you said.  Now, according to you:  "its your "opinion" and you don't have to prove it, show it, need to get paid for it, blah blah blah."

Sorry not going to skim through 211 pages.  Don't get paid enough.    I would think that if you are so sure on your opinion it wouldn't be so hard to post some examples.  After all that's your "thread"

But I did skim a few pages, and most if not all the articles were from "News Busters" a cite dedicated to exposing liberal news bias.  lol   So you directed me to articles form an OPINION site. lol

Can you show some HARD NEWS from MSM or not? 

What you're asking for isn't reasonable.  I cannot give you quotes from things I've seen on TV.  And no, I'm not going to go search for things I've read on the internet.  But what I have done is compiled numerous examples of liberal bias by the MSM in one thread. 

Yes, most of the articles I posted in the Liberal Media Bias thread are from news busters.  I'm glad they made the creation and contributions of that thread so much easier.     And they're not an opinion site.  They actually track facts (things said, not said, reported, not reported, etc.).  Are you disputing any of the stories? 

[SCRUBS]

btw - I think anytime the government is shut down that all politicians and their staffs should not only not be paid but they should not be able to recover the back pay

Repubs would never shut down the government again

With you on that 100%

[Kazan]

I'm not sure I follow you on this

do you think that shutting down the government means that only the politicians stop "working"

btw - I think anytime the government is shut down that all politicians and their staffs should not only not be paid but they should not be able to recover the back pay

Repubs would never shut down the government again

The point being is the .gov used to convene, then when their business was done go back to their day jobs. Now being a politician is the day job. Shut the government down, what impact is it going to have on the average person?

[RRKore]

I am just asking for some examples.  If you can't provide any, it suggests your claim is opinion not fact.

Or, at least, it suggests that BB is lazy and is sometimes inclined to talk out of his ass.  (In a studiedly genial way, though, so there's that.  )

[OzmO]

What you're asking for isn't reasonable.  I cannot give you quotes from things I've seen on TV.  And no, I'm not going to go search for things I've read on the internet.  But what I have done is compiled numerous examples of liberal bias by the MSM in one thread.  

Yes, most of the articles I posted in the Liberal Media Bias thread are from news busters.  I'm glad they made the creation and contributions of that thread so much easier.    And they're not an opinion site.  They actually track facts (things said, not said, reported, not reported, etc.).  Are you disputing any of the stories?

If that's so then it should be reasonably easy, quick and simple for you to do.  

Seems like you have an assumed stereotype supported by an bias site dedicated to finding anything they can call media bias. 

Kind of like Matrix saying:

Go search any of the mainstream news outlets and find one single example of an article, any article, describing any democrat candidate using the terms i layed out above, or anything close to it. You know, the usual terms they use to describe  republicans.
You wont be able to find one.

it took me like 2 minutes.

The thing is, i don't think your assessment of terms are valid.

Who calls Liberals:  'Hard line liberals' or 'Hard left politician'?   I never heard those terms used.  

But, I agree you might have a point so i did 4 searches on cnn.com

Hard Line conservatives
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=%27Hard%20line%20conservatives%27&intl=true&sortBy=relevance
Hard right politician
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=Hard%20right%20politician&intl=true&sortBy=relevance
Radical elements in the republican party
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=Radical%20elements%20in%20the%20republican%20party&intl=true&sortBy=relevance

All above 0 hits

radical left
http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=radical%20left&intl=true&sortBy=relevance

Several hits on "Radical Left"

I did MSNBC:

I hate that site. lol

Hard line conservatives
http://www.msnbc.com/search/Hard%20Line%20conservatives
1 hit
Hard right politician
http://www.msnbc.com/search/Hard%20right%20poltician
0 hits
Radical elements in the republican party
http://www.msnbc.com/search/radical%20elements%20in%20the%20republican%20party
0 hits

Radical left
http://www.msnbc.com/search/radical%20left
2 hits,  1 talking about radical left and right. The other talking about how both sides of the isle critisizing Ted Cruz’s “radical” rhetoric


I guess we just see what we want to see huh?

I could try all your terms, but i don't feel like it. lol

I actually thought he might be right. 

Thing is, Beach i thihnk you are probably right too, but i would like to "see" what you are talking about, because i also suspect Fox news does similar things with the "hard news" but you choose to let them off the hook because of you own bias.

[JOHN MATRIX]

great point

there is nothing extreme or radical about shutting down the entire government over your own personal temper tantrum

that's really just an example of how "mundane" he is

The dems shut it down. Or does ted cruz have the power to 'shut down the government' all by himself

[Straw Man]

The dems shut it down. Or does ted cruz have the power to 'shut down the government' all by himself

It's weird how Cruz shuts down the government and a gallery of wing nuts cheer him on and then he pretends that somehow the Dems did it

If you want to pretend that somehow the Dems shutdown the government that's fine

You can fantasize all that you want but don't expect the rest of the world to follow along

[Kazan]

It's weird how Cruz shuts down the government and a gallery of wing nuts cheer him on and then he pretends that somehow the Dems did it

If you want to pretend that somehow the Dems shutdown the government that's fine

You can fantasize all that you want but don't expect the rest of the world to follow along

And what effect did it have? Taxes were still collected, gubmint checks still went out.............

[Straw Man]

And what effect did it have? Taxes were still collected, gubmint checks still went out.............

ok, so if there was no negative effect then why does Cruz pretend that the Dems did it

Is he trying to give the Dems a victory?

[JOHN MATRIX]

It's weird how Cruz shuts down the government and a gallery of wing nuts cheer him on and then he pretends that somehow the Dems did it

If you want to pretend that somehow the Dems shutdown the government that's fine

You can fantasize all that you want but don't expect the rest of the world to follow along

Wow...I didnt realise a single freshman senator had the power to 'shut down' the united states government. Cruz must be one powerful guy

[Kazan]

ok, so if there was no negative effect then why does Cruz pretend that the Dems did it

Is he trying to give the Dems a victory?

There was no negative effect, not sure why such a big deal is made of it. Dem\Rep basically the same with a few issue to get the peon's riled up.

[Straw Man]

Wow...I didnt realise a single freshman senator had the power to 'shut down' the united states government. Cruz must be one powerful guy

He didn't do it by himself but he was the driving force behind it and in the end his own party hated him for it

Do you really want to turn this thread me posting all kinds of transcripts on this or do you want to just admit that Cruz owns this one

Shit, other people on this board think it as a good thing so why run away from it, especially when everyone knows exactly what happened

[JOHN MATRIX]

Dig up all the transcripts you have and post them all, along with charts and diagrams and a 14 paragraph dissertation and please include quotes and full citations. Get on it right away

[Straw Man]

Dig up all the transcripts you have and post them all, along with charts and diagrams and a 14 paragraph dissertation and please include quotes and full citations. Get on it right away

before I do that let's just make sure I understand your belief

you believe that the Dems and not Ted Cruz are responsible for shutting down the governemnt

Do I have that part correct?

[JOHN MATRIX]

The obama administration and the dems were the ones who stonewalled, refused to negotiate anything, and then made the calculated decision to go ahead with the 'shutdown'.
Ted cruz cannot 'shut it down' by himself. Ultimately only the administration has the ability to do that, and it was their decision and only their decision that made it so.
Obama  knew full well that he along with his media fanboys would blame the republicans for everything and the public would eat it up, which they mostly did, and they made sure to make it as big of a spectacle as they could, shutting down parks, random public spaces, barricaded open air war memorials, closed off the road with views of mount rushmore, and made sure to put signs on everything saying 'due to the government SHUTDOWN(in all caps of course lmao)'.
It was a big fucking charade

[Straw Man]

The obama administration and the dems were the ones who stonewalled, refused to negotiate anything, and then made the calculated decision to go ahead with the 'shutdown'.
Ted cruz cannot 'shut it down' by himself. Ultimately only the administration has the ability to do that, and it was their decision and only their decision that made it so.
Obama  knew full well that he along with his media fanboys would blame the republicans for everything and the public would eat it up, which they mostly did, and they made sure to make it as big of a spectacle as they could, shutting down parks, random public spaces, barricaded open air war memorials, closed off the road with views of mount rushmore, and made sure to put signs on everything saying 'due to the government SHUTDOWN(in all caps of course lmao)'.
It was a big fucking charade

a yes or now would have been fine

I'm just trying to clarify your belief just to make sure it's not crazy

so the Dems are responsible for shutting down the government because Cruz threatened to hold up funding the government unless they "negotiated" on Obamacare

Is that the basic premise as to why the Dems and not Cruz are responsible for shutting down the government

A simple yes or no and then we can move on