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Re: It's a Farce!
« Reply #100 on: May 18, 2014, 05:10:20 AM »
Can't take credit for the below, came across it one day when reading about "climate change"

"It would be tragic if medical science adopted the standards that climate science employs. Can you imagine getting a paper cut on your finger and having a doctor announce that you're going to die? He'd base his opinion on your current rate of blood loss, calculating that within a few days you'd go into circulatory collapse. Once the blood stopped flowing by itself he would at first deny that there was any pause in the bleeding. After awhile, he'd go looking for the missing blood and he'd find it in your lungs and your brain and then he'd declare that it was just waiting there until the bleeding resumed. Even though there was now no blood loss occurring, he would insist that his confidence in your demise had actually increased from 90% to 95%. He'd support his findings by pointing to a survey of doctors that showed that 97% of them agreed that blood loss can be fatal and that paper can cause cuts.

His recommended solution would be to inject potassium nitrate into your heart so that your blood would no longer be moving and wouldn't be able to leak out of your body. He'd insist that your heart was unsustainable to begin with and could easily be replaced by a carrot and a bit of string. Once that failed he'd immediately blame lack of funding and fly to Cancun or Bali to meet with 20,000 other doctors, activists and politicians to take money away from everyone with a heart and use the revenue to buy bigger carrots.

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1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.

After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.

2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.

“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”

“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.

Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.

3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”

But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.

4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.

“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”

But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.


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More AGW non-sense from Live Science, what a surprise, AGW is as un-sceintific as it comes, it's been disproven by every major scientific institution and thousands upon thousands of independent scientists call AGW the anti-science. I remember in the 80's all these alarmists saying that New York will be under 30 stories of water by the early 2000's. Didn't happen, in the 90's they predicted category 5 hurricanes would be hitting our shores en mass by the 2010's, it is now 2014 and we have seen one category 5 in the last five years. They predicted the polar icecaps would be gone by 2015, and yet they are growing. They predicted temperatures climbing by at least 5 degrees every year, we have seen 1 degree rise in temperatures globally in the last 100 years. Alarmists have beat this drum to no end hoping that ignorance would propell their agenda, but now in the age of information one can actually research these studies and find that the ones supporting the claim of AGW are bogus and that there are far more scientists who say that AGW is a political scam than are made public. That said lets end this with some quotes from actual scientists and their findings.

"NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted" - NASA publicized report on remote sensing authored by DR. Roy Spencer

"The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth." - CERN statement during a 2011 press conference with the support of over 63 scientists from 17 institutions.

"global warming (now “climate change”) a “new religion”. Its temple is built on grounds of faith rather than scientific foundations." - Ivar Giaever Winner of a Nobel prize in Physics.

“As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” - Jeff Kuhn, University of Hawaii

Now there is also a petition currently signed by more than 31, 070 scientists more than 9.000 of whom have PHD's that says AGW is un-scientific and they neither support it nor condone it's spread. On the other hand the top 100 supporters of AGW are as follows.

Celebrities

Al Gore, B.A. Government (no science degree)
Alanis Morissette, High School Diploma
Bill Maher, B.A. English (no science degree)
Bono (Paul Hewson), High School Diploma
Daryl Hanna, B.F.A. Theater (no science degree)
Ed Begley Jr., High School Diploma
Jackson Browne, High School Diploma
Jon Bon Jovi (John Bongiovi), High School Diploma
Oprah Winfrey, B.A. Speech and Drama (no science degree)
Prince Charles of Whales, B.A. (no science degree)
Sheryl Crow, B.A. Music Education (no science degree)
Sienna Miller, High School Diploma




ABC - Sam Champion, B.A. Broadcast News (no science degree, not a meteorologist)
CBS - Harry Smith, B.A. Communications and Theater (no science degree)
CBS - Katie Couric, B.A. English (no science degree)
CBS - Scott Pelley, College Dropout
NBC - Ann Curry, B.A. Journalism (no science degree)
NBC - Anne Thompson, B.A. American studies (no science degree)
NBC - Matt Lauer. B.A. Communications (no science degree)
NBC - Meredith Vieira, B.A. English (no science degree)

Al Sharpton, College Dropout
Alicia Keys, College Dropout
Alicia Silverstone, High School Dropout
Art Bell, College Dropout
Ben Affleck, College Dropout
Ben Stiller, College Dropout
Billy Jean King, College Dropout
Brad Pitt, College Dropout
Britney Spears, High School Dropout
Bruce Springsteen, College Dropout
Cameron Diaz, High School Dropout
Cindy Crawford, College Dropout
Diane Keaton, College Dropout
Drew Barrymore, High School Dropout
George Clooney, College Dropout
Gwyneth Paltrow, College Dropout
Jason Biggs, College Dropout
Jennifer Connelly, College Dropout
Jessica Simpson, High School Dropout
John Travolta, High School Dropout
Joshua Jackson, High School Dropout
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, College Dropout
Julia Roberts, College Dropout
Kanye West, College Dropout
Keanu Reeves, High School Dropout
Kevin Bacon, High School Dropout
Kiefer Sutherland, High School Dropout
Leonardo DiCaprio, High School Dropout
Lindsay Lohan, High School Dropout
Ludacris (Christopher Bridges), College Dropout
Madonna (Madonna Ciccone), College Dropout
Matt Damon, College Dropout
Matthew Modine, College Dropout
Michael Moore, College Dropout
Nicole Richie, College Dropout
Neve Campbell, High School Dropout
Olivia Newton-John, High School Dropout
Orlando Bloom, High School Dropout
Paris Hilton, High School Dropout
Pierce Brosnan. High School Dropout
Queen Latifah (Dana Elaine Owens), College Dropout
Richard Branson, High School Dropout
Robert Redford, College Dropout
Rosie O'Donnell, College Dropout
Sarah Silverman, College Dropout
Sean Penn, College Dropout
Ted Turner, College Dropout
Tommy Lee (Thomas Lee Bass), High School Dropout
Uma Thurman, High School Dropout
Willie Nelson, High School Dropout

Politicians:

John McCain, B.S. (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree) (Hypocrite)
Pat Robertson, B.A., J.D., M.A. Divinity (no science degree)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, B.A. Government, J.D. Law (no science degree, 'recovered' Heroin addict)

Scientists:

Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, B.A. Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (RealClimate.org)
James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics (NASA, Gavin Schmidt's Boss)
James Lovelock, Ph.D. Medicine, D.Sc. Biophysics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Sciences
Michael Mann, A.B. Applied Math, Physics, M.S. Physics, Ph.D. Geology & Geophysics (RealClimate.org)
Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Richard C. J. Somerville, Ph.D. Meteorology
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics

Social Scientists:

Ronald Bailey, B.A. Philosophy and Economics (Science Correspondent, Reason Magazine)

So yeah, follow the paper trail you will find that AGW has fewer scientists supporting it than has standing against it."
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They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.

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Re: It's a Farce!
« Reply #101 on: May 18, 2014, 08:25:17 AM »
And what exactly, is the solution to stop or slow down global warming?  Ah yes, the ceding of more power to governmental institutions and increased taxes to all persons.  Good things for guys like Necrosis, our $250 an hour physician from Canada who lives behind barricaded walls in his ivory tower, who wouldn't mind paying a few dollars more. 

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« Reply #102 on: May 18, 2014, 08:44:22 AM »
And what exactly, is the solution to stop or slow down global warming?  Ah yes, the ceding of more power to governmental institutions and increased taxes to all persons.  Good things for guys like Necrosis, our $250 an hour physician from Canada who lives behind barricaded walls in his ivory tower, who wouldn't mind paying a few dollars more. 

Exactly.  It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good.  The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.

Same old same old...same old same old... ::)

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Re: It's a Farce!
« Reply #103 on: May 18, 2014, 11:35:20 AM »
Exactly.  It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good.  The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.

Same old same old...same old same old... ::)

All animals are equal.  Some animals are more equal than others. 

The liberal mindset as explained in Orwell's "Animal Farm".  This allows the redistribution of wealth, property, food, goods and services, you name it.  All in the name of "equality" or as they like to call it in today's societal zeitgeist, "fairness". You don't have to work hard to earn anything. If you can't steal it in private like a thief in the night, you can simply rely upon government to steal it in the courts in broad daylight in the name of "fairness".

Yes, this is a generalization of what is going on today, but like pretty much all stereotypes its rooted in the truth.  And remember, the only people that don't like the truth are liars.


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Re: It's a Farce!
« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2014, 01:51:15 PM »
Exactly.  It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good.  The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.

Same old same old...same old same old... ::)

humans can have dangerous ideas, your point is silly. An atomic bomb is created by humans but nih inherent no?

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« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2014, 01:55:00 PM »
All animals are equal.  Some animals are more equal than others. 

The liberal mindset as explained in Orwell's "Animal Farm".  This allows the redistribution of wealth, property, food, goods and services, you name it.  All in the name of "equality" or as they like to call it in today's societal zeitgeist, "fairness". You don't have to work hard to earn anything. If you can't steal it in private like a thief in the night, you can simply rely upon government to steal it in the courts in broad daylight in the name of "fairness".

Yes, this is a generalization of what is going on today, but like pretty much all stereotypes its rooted in the truth.  And remember, the only people that don't like the truth are liars.


There's no redistribution of wealth. The %1 own have more wealth than the %90. And that will only increase, as it will. What nonsense are you putting forward. Oh brother.   

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« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2014, 02:42:05 PM »
There's no redistribution of wealth. The %1 own have more wealth than the %90. And that will only increase, as it will. What nonsense are you putting forward. Oh brother.   

Wait, did you just say there is no redistribution of wealth? Did I miss the context of that statement? Are you serious?

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« Reply #107 on: May 18, 2014, 02:43:33 PM »
Exactly.  It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good.  The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.

Same old same old...same old same old... ::)

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« Reply #108 on: May 18, 2014, 02:44:56 PM »
Wait, did you just say there is no redistribution of wealth? Did I miss the context of that statement? Are you serious?
Pretty sure you're mistaking some money flow for wealth, Coach. There is, and will be no, redistribution of wealth. Rest easy, bro.

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« Reply #109 on: May 18, 2014, 03:04:59 PM »
Pretty sure you're mistaking some money flow for wealth, Coach. There is, and will be no, redistribution of wealth. Rest easy, bro.

So raising my taxes and giving to needless and unnecessary "causes" is not redistribution?

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« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2014, 03:09:54 PM »
There's also scientists that call complete bullshit on it. Are they less qualified than the ones who made the bullshit up?

Of course not, but that's what science is! It's about progress.You have this warped idea that science never changes. Scientists realize that ideas and theories change over time. They realize that what may be correct one day, may not be correct another day. For some very strange reason, you do not grasp this idea. Its as if there is something stopping you from realizing this. Again, I will say it: SCIENCE IS ABOUT PROGRESS. IDEAS AND THEORIES CHANGE ALL THE TIME! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONFLICT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
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« Reply #111 on: May 18, 2014, 03:20:31 PM »
Of course not, but that's what science is! It's about progress.You have this warped idea that science never changes. Scientists realize that ideas and theories change over time. They realize that what may be correct one day, may not be correct another day. For some very strange reason, you do not grasp this idea. Its as if there is something stopping you from realizing this. Again, I will say it: SCIENCE IS ABOUT PROGRESS. IDEAS AND THEORIES CHANGE ALL THE TIME! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONFLICT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.

And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.

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« Reply #112 on: May 18, 2014, 03:32:45 PM »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/17/climate-change-antarctica-glaciers-melting-global-warming-nasa

past the point of return, it will collapse completely. We are close to being fucked. The ocean is giong to get acidic making shelled fish extinct en masse. The offspring won't be able to form shells, then the shit that relies on those creatures the fish, dolphins, whales will die. But it snowed outside!

in ten years this world will be a far different place.

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« Reply #113 on: May 18, 2014, 03:41:54 PM »
So raising my taxes and giving to needless and unnecessary "causes" is not redistribution?
Again, that's money flow. Not wealth accrual. This stuff is Eco 101, Coach. C'mon, now.

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« Reply #114 on: May 18, 2014, 03:43:26 PM »
And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.
Oh, stop it. Fear mongering is below us. Be that better person.

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« Reply #115 on: May 19, 2014, 04:56:48 AM »
And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.

Taxes will be a small price for what's coming dude. coastal communities are going to have a tough time in coming years, some have already begun moving whole towns. What is that from?

you deny the globe is heating up despite all the basic facts like temperature readings. Do you have a special plaque for your special retardation?

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« Reply #116 on: May 19, 2014, 07:56:09 AM »
Oh, stop it. Fear mongering is below us. Be that better person.

And what is "global warming" or if you prefer, "climate change" if not fear mongering?  Apparently it's not below those fostering it.  They've reached rock bottom now and have started digging.  Oh stop it. 

They won't.


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« Reply #117 on: May 19, 2014, 08:00:35 AM »
Taxes will be a small price for what's coming dude. coastal communities are going to have a tough time in coming years, some have already begun moving whole towns. What is that from?

you deny the globe is heating up despite all the basic facts like temperature readings. Do you have a special plaque for your special retardation?

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Re: It's a Farce! 2nd hottest month on record globally!
« Reply #118 on: May 19, 2014, 08:31:40 AM »
Derp!



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« Reply #119 on: May 19, 2014, 12:05:58 PM »
And what is "global warming" or if you prefer, "climate change" if not fear mongering?  Apparently it's not below those fostering it.  They've reached rock bottom now and have started digging.  Oh stop it. 

They won't.



stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.

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« Reply #120 on: May 19, 2014, 12:07:24 PM »
stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.

There we supposed facts about the next Ice Age as well ::)

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Re: It's a Farce! 2nd hottest month on record globally!
« Reply #121 on: May 19, 2014, 12:12:48 PM »
There was no April 8, 1977 cover of Time Magazine.

There was an April 4, 1977 cover;




and an April 11, 1977 cover.



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« Reply #122 on: May 19, 2014, 12:21:24 PM »
There we supposed facts about the next Ice Age as well ::)

show me these facts, I know of none.  saying they exist doesn't mean shit, please no piece from a guy in his basement taking about seeing your breath outside or some shit.

let's grant that your argument is correct, they were wrong about climate before, that doesn't mean they are wrong now. Do you understand this key point? science isn't one thing or place or group, it's the best ideas with the most support from research.

You also posted fake magazine covers, typical of a dirtbag divorcee.

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« Reply #123 on: May 19, 2014, 12:23:33 PM »
stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.

BS is bs.  Not facts.   We're still here.  We were supposed to freeeeeeeeeeeeze!  We were supposed to drownnn when the polar ice caps melted. We should all be dead from the heat!  Or was that the cold...?  People are moving entire cities to escape!  Ahhhhh....

Riiiiight.  You move.  You stop using your heating and A/C.  Stop driving or even using public transportation.  Become amish or menonite or some other candlestick  user.  No more processed foods for you.  No more electricity.  No more modern conveniences. None.  No cell phones, no internet, no TV, no microwave popcorn, no nothing.  Give it all up.  Make your own clothes from scratch and grow your own food.  Don't you dare harm a flea when you do so, because you never know that flea could be the straw that breaks Mother Nature's back and sends us into the next BS nightmare of a lie.  No carbon credits for you.

Riiiiight.  You guys are Chicken Little.  

As for facts, we're still here.  That's a fact. One that probably pisses you off.  I'm old enough to remember the first gasoline shortage.  What a farce.  Follow the money. 

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« Reply #124 on: May 19, 2014, 12:29:40 PM »
BS is bs.  Not facts.   We're still here.  We were supposed to freeeeeeeeeeeeze!  We were supposed to drownnn when the polar ice caps melted. We should all be dead from the heat!  Or was that the cold...?  People are moving entire cities to escape!  Ahhhhh....

Riiiiight.  You move.  You stop using your heating and A/C.  Stop driving or even using public transportation.  Become amish or menonite or some other candlestick  user.  No more processed foods for you.  No more electricity.  No more modern conveniences. None.  No cell phones, no internet, no TV, no microwave popcorn, no nothing.  Give it all up.  Make your own clothes from scratch and grow your own food.  Don't you dare harm a flea when you do so, because you never know that flea could be the straw that breaks Mother Nature's back and sends us into the next BS nightmare of a lie.  No carbon credits for you.

Riiiiight.  You guys are Chicken Little.  

As for facts, we're still here.  That's a fact. One that probably pisses you off.  I'm old enough to remember the first gasoline shortage.  What a farce.  Follow the money. 

so the fact that humans exist trumps everything for you? no one wants these crazy solutions, tehy won't work in reality, there are options like nuclear for example. even if we divert the damage to a degree it may be fine.

I just don't understand why you are denying basic science? what for? so you are wrong, and those educated on this subject would suggest you are, wouldn't the economic consequences  be wroth averting? you want to see the changes with your own eyes? the ice sheet is in collapse, go watch it.