It's a Farce! 2nd hottest month on record globally!

[The Scott]

Weak sauce. Even for Getbig. 

See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof.  Are you an "angry, shrill man"?

I have no idea and in truth, don't care. 

If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it.  And for the record, I am not here to "debate".  I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based.  And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I.  In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want.  I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.

Purple tennis shoes anyone?  Thought so.

[dr.chimps]

See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof.  Are you an "angry, shrill man"?

I have no idea and in truth, don't care. 

If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it.  And for the record, I am not here to "debate".  I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based.  And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I.  In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want.  I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.

Purple tennis shoes anyone?  Thought so.

Sad. You should have some idea. And you should care. Like life. There should be some level of IQ, empathy and compassion to ride this roller coaster. I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen.   

[Donny]

we are not talking being Radical Hippy Dudes.. but small changes. Why say we should walk around like Stone Age man? Absurd. The Fuels we use are causing pollution period. Do we Need Nuclear waste buried under our feet.. who gives a fuck? us here now? no but future Generations.

[Archer77]

I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen.  

You did just that  and dodged my questions as well. You've done this several times.  

[dr.chimps]

You did just that  and dodged my questions as well. You've done this several times.  

Apologies. I guess I missed your posts among the other thread stridencies - which is nice for you, or another weak spot for me. 

[Parker]

The vast majority of scientists who study climate agree something is happening and its caused or being accelerated by human action.  Often scientists without a background in climate research are the most vocal opponents of climate change.  

Which is ironic. Because they would be crying foul if other scientists who are not in their field questioned them.

[Necrosis]

Those who believe this stuff should be forced to live it.  No different than if you claim Christ, but live as one who doesn't believe.  If you think man is destroying the world, then get off the grid.  No electricity, no heat no A/C, not mass produced clothes or food, no mechanical forms of transportation...Nothing .  No soup for you!

That would show you why the average lifespan was so low so long ago.

I don't make people wear shoes.  Don't try to make me take mine off.    Freakin' hippie libtard scum.

That's your solution? how about we meet half way. Any solution that works is good, can we make clouds? more carbon sinks? possibly? can we switch to other means of energy? new materials like graphene etc.

[Necrosis]

Can't take credit for the below, came across it one day when reading about "climate change"

"It would be tragic if medical science adopted the standards that climate science employs. Can you imagine getting a paper cut on your finger and having a doctor announce that you're going to die? He'd base his opinion on your current rate of blood loss, calculating that within a few days you'd go into circulatory collapse. Once the blood stopped flowing by itself he would at first deny that there was any pause in the bleeding. After awhile, he'd go looking for the missing blood and he'd find it in your lungs and your brain and then he'd declare that it was just waiting there until the bleeding resumed. Even though there was now no blood loss occurring, he would insist that his confidence in your demise had actually increased from 90% to 95%. He'd support his findings by pointing to a survey of doctors that showed that 97% of them agreed that blood loss can be fatal and that paper can cause cuts.

His recommended solution would be to inject potassium nitrate into your heart so that your blood would no longer be moving and wouldn't be able to leak out of your body. He'd insist that your heart was unsustainable to begin with and could easily be replaced by a carrot and a bit of string. Once that failed he'd immediately blame lack of funding and fly to Cancun or Bali to meet with 20,000 other doctors, activists and politicians to take money away from everyone with a heart and use the revenue to buy bigger carrots.

40 to 5
Already heard this bed time story.

1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.

After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.

2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.

“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”

“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.

Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.

3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”

But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.

4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.

“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”

But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.


Stuart

More AGW non-sense from Live Science, what a surprise, AGW is as un-sceintific as it comes, it's been disproven by every major scientific institution and thousands upon thousands of independent scientists call AGW the anti-science. I remember in the 80's all these alarmists saying that New York will be under 30 stories of water by the early 2000's. Didn't happen, in the 90's they predicted category 5 hurricanes would be hitting our shores en mass by the 2010's, it is now 2014 and we have seen one category 5 in the last five years. They predicted the polar icecaps would be gone by 2015, and yet they are growing. They predicted temperatures climbing by at least 5 degrees every year, we have seen 1 degree rise in temperatures globally in the last 100 years. Alarmists have beat this drum to no end hoping that ignorance would propell their agenda, but now in the age of information one can actually research these studies and find that the ones supporting the claim of AGW are bogus and that there are far more scientists who say that AGW is a political scam than are made public. That said lets end this with some quotes from actual scientists and their findings.

"NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted" - NASA publicized report on remote sensing authored by DR. Roy Spencer

"The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth." - CERN statement during a 2011 press conference with the support of over 63 scientists from 17 institutions.

"global warming (now “climate change”) a “new religion”. Its temple is built on grounds of faith rather than scientific foundations." - Ivar Giaever Winner of a Nobel prize in Physics.

“As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” - Jeff Kuhn, University of Hawaii

Now there is also a petition currently signed by more than 31, 070 scientists more than 9.000 of whom have PHD's that says AGW is un-scientific and they neither support it nor condone it's spread. On the other hand the top 100 supporters of AGW are as follows.

Celebrities

Al Gore, B.A. Government (no science degree)
Alanis Morissette, High School Diploma
Bill Maher, B.A. English (no science degree)
Bono (Paul Hewson), High School Diploma
Daryl Hanna, B.F.A. Theater (no science degree)
Ed Begley Jr., High School Diploma
Jackson Browne, High School Diploma
Jon Bon Jovi (John Bongiovi), High School Diploma
Oprah Winfrey, B.A. Speech and Drama (no science degree)
Prince Charles of Whales, B.A. (no science degree)
Sheryl Crow, B.A. Music Education (no science degree)
Sienna Miller, High School Diploma




ABC - Sam Champion, B.A. Broadcast News (no science degree, not a meteorologist)
CBS - Harry Smith, B.A. Communications and Theater (no science degree)
CBS - Katie Couric, B.A. English (no science degree)
CBS - Scott Pelley, College Dropout
NBC - Ann Curry, B.A. Journalism (no science degree)
NBC - Anne Thompson, B.A. American studies (no science degree)
NBC - Matt Lauer. B.A. Communications (no science degree)
NBC - Meredith Vieira, B.A. English (no science degree)

Al Sharpton, College Dropout
Alicia Keys, College Dropout
Alicia Silverstone, High School Dropout
Art Bell, College Dropout
Ben Affleck, College Dropout
Ben Stiller, College Dropout
Billy Jean King, College Dropout
Brad Pitt, College Dropout
Britney Spears, High School Dropout
Bruce Springsteen, College Dropout
Cameron Diaz, High School Dropout
Cindy Crawford, College Dropout
Diane Keaton, College Dropout
Drew Barrymore, High School Dropout
George Clooney, College Dropout
Gwyneth Paltrow, College Dropout
Jason Biggs, College Dropout
Jennifer Connelly, College Dropout
Jessica Simpson, High School Dropout
John Travolta, High School Dropout
Joshua Jackson, High School Dropout
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, College Dropout
Julia Roberts, College Dropout
Kanye West, College Dropout
Keanu Reeves, High School Dropout
Kevin Bacon, High School Dropout
Kiefer Sutherland, High School Dropout
Leonardo DiCaprio, High School Dropout
Lindsay Lohan, High School Dropout
Ludacris (Christopher Bridges), College Dropout
Madonna (Madonna Ciccone), College Dropout
Matt Damon, College Dropout
Matthew Modine, College Dropout
Michael Moore, College Dropout
Nicole Richie, College Dropout
Neve Campbell, High School Dropout
Olivia Newton-John, High School Dropout
Orlando Bloom, High School Dropout
Paris Hilton, High School Dropout
Pierce Brosnan. High School Dropout
Queen Latifah (Dana Elaine Owens), College Dropout
Richard Branson, High School Dropout
Robert Redford, College Dropout
Rosie O'Donnell, College Dropout
Sarah Silverman, College Dropout
Sean Penn, College Dropout
Ted Turner, College Dropout
Tommy Lee (Thomas Lee Bass), High School Dropout
Uma Thurman, High School Dropout
Willie Nelson, High School Dropout

Politicians:

John McCain, B.S. (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree) (Hypocrite)
Pat Robertson, B.A., J.D., M.A. Divinity (no science degree)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, B.A. Government, J.D. Law (no science degree, 'recovered' Heroin addict)

Scientists:

Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, B.A. Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (RealClimate.org)
James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics (NASA, Gavin Schmidt's Boss)
James Lovelock, Ph.D. Medicine, D.Sc. Biophysics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Sciences
Michael Mann, A.B. Applied Math, Physics, M.S. Physics, Ph.D. Geology & Geophysics (RealClimate.org)
Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Richard C. J. Somerville, Ph.D. Meteorology
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics

Social Scientists:

Ronald Bailey, B.A. Philosophy and Economics (Science Correspondent, Reason Magazine)

So yeah, follow the paper trail you will find that AGW has fewer scientists supporting it than has standing against it."

Great detective work, nothing to see here folks, retard alpha just posted a small novel that has no citations and he can't take credit for it, because he didn't read it. There are so many outright lies in this non sense you should be buried alive from the neck up with your mouth pried open and buck scent spread on your lips.

[lasers]

Great detective work, nothing to see here folks, retard alpha just posted a small novel that has no citations and he can't take credit for it, because he didn't read it. There are so many outright lies in this non sense you should be buried alive from the neck up with your mouth pried open and buck scent spread on your lips.

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

[Necrosis]

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

What journal is this? this appears to be their paper. Can you speak or only copy and paste?

[The Scott]

See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like Coach. Just an angry, shrill man. 

See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof.  Are you an "angry, shrill man"?

I have no idea and in truth, don't care. 

If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it.  And for the record, I am not here to "debate".  I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based.  And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I.  In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want.  I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.

Purple tennis shoes anyone?  Thought so.

Sad. You should have some idea. And you should care. Like life. There should be some level of IQ, empathy and compassion to ride this roller coaster. I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen.   

Umm... I don't care if you're an angry shrill man.  I suppose you missed it because you were looking for what satisfied your agenda.  No worries, we all do this from time to time.  I didn't miss it when you said that to me in a previous posting of yours, ergo I used to good effect in my reply to you.  In truth you didn't even bother to question my being so but instead said that I was just like Coach, an angry, shrill man.  How judgmental you are. We all are so don't bother ruffling any feathers as I am more than aware that humans behave in ways we both admire and despise.  If not, I suggest you get used to disappointment, not only with your fellow man but with yourself.

And no need to be  "sad".  My IQ is fine, I have as many ideas as the next person (including you) and where you get the idea I don't care about thing such as "life" I have no idea.  Look at my first paragraph.  You missed what I was mocking because of your agenda, i.e., to make light of me and my take on this subject. 

Again, so you don't get upset.  We all do this from time to time.  Now, once more I will say that I don't "debate".  I state what I hold to be true be it by faith or by fact (that would mean my belief in Christ or by the merits of Science in case you were wondering).   We are not so different.  Societal zeitgeist would have us "celebrate" that which makes us different.  I prefer to concentrate on what we have in common.  There's a lot more of that than any differences you know.

Be well.

[lasers]

What journal is this? this appears to be their paper. Can you speak or only copy and paste?

The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

[Parker]

The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

Its the American (capitalist) way. Follow the paper trail, it will eventually lead to some greenbacks.

[Viking11]

If the Oil companies via the Bush axis of the fundie party gets their way, it will a slow March to Greenhouse extinction even in a few centuries. We will go the way of the dinosaurs for being unable to learn and adapt.

[Necrosis]

The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

the warmist argument? that;s the basis of the debate is that there is a consensus? not the mounds of evidence. Warmist LMAO.

[lasers]

the warmist argument? that;s the basis of the debate is that there is a consensus? not the mounds of evidence. Warmist LMAO.

LOL

[polychronopolous]

Last time I talked to a buddy of mine working up in the Balkan Oilfield he told me 40 below still feels awfully cold come January in the Dakotas.

And I'll take that real world, working man experience over any basement dwelling, cheeto munching liberal trying to feel better about his miserable existence by sending out hashtag sanctions and other various forms of tomfoolery nonsense.

[SF1900]

Winter weather warning in Colorado. The "scientists" on the government dole can't even make sense of it. Whats going to happen? Is my tan going to get deeper? Are my palm trees going to live longer? Burn a little more gas because the air conditioner is on my car? Is the world going to end? Yes.....thats it. The world is going to end. So lets leave it to liberals to save the planet.....and rape us for even more tax money. Tool!

So they are not scientists? They did not earn their PhDs? Every university just hands over PhDs to people? I heard Harvard was giving away free PhD's.

[SF1900]

Getbig Scientists > Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Dartmouth, UCLA, Brown, Cornell, NYU, UPenn Scientists.

[_aj_]

If the Oil companies via the Bush axis of the fundie party gets their way, it will a slow March to Greenhouse extinction even in a few centuries. We will go the way of the dinosaurs for being unable to learn and adapt.

 

[Coach is Back!]

So they are not scientists? They did not earn their PhDs? Every university just hands over PhDs to people? I heard Harvard was giving away free PhD's.

There's also scientists that call complete bullshit on it. Are they less qualified than the ones who made the bullshit up?

[ProudVirgin69]

Last time I talked to a buddy of mine working up in the Balkan Oilfield he told me 40 below still feels awfully cold come January in the Dakotas.

And I'll take that real world, working man experience over any basement dwelling, cheeto munching liberal trying to feel better about his miserable existence by sending out hashtag sanctions and other various forms of tomfoolery nonsense.

Yeah last time I checked, the winter in my area was pretty cold.  Global Warming?  More like Global Cooling lol

[Lustral]

we are not talking being Radical Hippy Dudes.. but small changes. Why say we should walk around like Stone Age man? Absurd. The Fuels we use are causing pollution period. Do we Need Nuclear waste buried under our feet.. who gives a fuck? us here now? no but future Generations.

Nuclear fuel is by far the best option currently available.

I think climate change (formerly global warming til stats showed there was no linear warming) is exaggerated and ignorant of extrinsic factors like solar flares etc but I am all for moving away from a reliance on oil.


Primarily because I saw a programme on Qatar recently. They want to spend $200 billion on the World Cup. They give free water and electricity to all citizens, plus guaranteed jobs. Yet they use slave labour, have no innovation and are backwards. Oil (and gas - see Russia) give power and control, plus obscene money, to despotic regimes that hold the West to ransom.

Equally, however, climate change is used by Western regimes to push taxes upon people (carbon tax here) while subsidising useless technologies like wind turbines.

[Necrosis]

Yeah last time I checked, the winter in my area was pretty cold.  Global Warming?  More like Global Cooling lol

warming more like smoreming

[Voice of Doom]

Change is the only constant.  What exactly is the fear?  And how much will the "solution" cost me in taxes?

It's interesting how Malthusian (the philosophy used by the elites to maintain their privilege for centuries) has reasserted itself.  It was discredited by Buckminster Fuller in the 20th century who pointed out that technology was steadily increasing the energy output for the input of limited resources.  That we could "advantage all without disadvantaging any".  The 'age of rising expectations' was heralded as the end to class privilege and materialist segregation.  Of course that philosophy doesn't benefit the elites....

Since the 1980s the elites are in a currency crisis (natural end-cycle result of a debt based un-backed fiat currency), the rise of the unwashed masses coming for revenge (with the elites offering B. Clinton and Obama to provide a temporary cover), and their traditional international world order and privileged status threatened by the rise of non-Western economic powers.  Suddenly we see a simultaneous return to the 'age of lowered expectations' with the new climate change movement.  In the 1970s it was called the 'ecology' movement.  Look it up, notice the similarities of social restructuring and, more importantly, who funded the movement.

The ultimate outcome will be the reassertion that 'the earth is fragile, resources are limited, and there's too many people'.  The elites will offer the solution that everyone will have to forego a higher quality of life and economic freedom for the "survival" of the species.  The ultimate win of Communism 25 years after it was declared dead.

Don't be fooled brothers.  America, and its Bill of Rights/Constitution is the greatest experiment in the history of human freedom.  Any "movement" to diminish it's philosophical strength is a movement of the few to control the many.