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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2014, 04:50:07 PM »
I cited the wrong one....but this case still proves point on executive order

An executive order cannot conflict with either federal law or the U.S. Constitution. 

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2014, 04:56:34 PM »

Exactly....that's one thing that should be clear to everyone and even I'm not going to dispute that.  Its just a smokescreen to get everyone feeling good.  I think that he would have been left to hang had it not been for the VA scandal. 

On the other hand, its funny that he didn't get his head chopped off or end up dead in the desert...WHY????

Why because he walked off base and joined them, gave them tactics and I'm sure intel. This fucking guy is the enemy
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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2014, 05:43:50 PM »
I cited the wrong one....but this case still proves point on executive order


No, it doesn't and executive orders are not even the issue here. 

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2014, 06:21:52 PM »
An executive order cannot conflict with either federal law or the U.S. Constitution. 


Well, don't expect Obama to be impeached....if the GOP goes after him, they'll look like shit for not wanting to get a POW out after 5 years.  They'll bitch a little bit and that will be the end of it
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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2014, 06:54:09 PM »
Both Toobin and Turley are liberals. 

Do you disagree with what they said? 

Doesn't matter what THEIR political basis is.  I asked a specific poster about a specific claim he made.  Nothing was offered up as proof of that claim.  No surprise.

You're taking Vince's word and not asking him for a link? 

You can't be serious.

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2014, 08:59:09 AM »
boehnner and issa talk about impeachment for fundraising purposes and even use in their ads.

BUT

They don't impeach anyone.  that's the problem.  they're like the girl that grinds on a guy all night at the club, lets him buy her drinks all night, leads him to the car, then VOILA, they get a text from their sick grandmother and have to go, leaving him blue.

And it happened that one benghazi friday night.  And that one F&F friday night.  And that other friday night, etc etc.   Repubs are the dudes that keep buying her drinks and going home with blueballs, and still bragging to their friends about "oh, i'm SO going to nail her on Friday!"   

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2014, 12:11:30 PM »

Well, don't expect Obama to be impeached....if the GOP goes after him, they'll look like shit for not wanting to get a POW out after 5 years.  They'll bitch a little bit and that will be the end of it

I didn't say anything about Obama being impeached.  I'm addressing your contention that the president can choose not to follow federal law, and that an executive order trumps federal law and the U.S. Constitution. 

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2014, 12:13:58 PM »
Doesn't matter what THEIR political basis is.  I asked a specific poster about a specific claim he made.  Nothing was offered up as proof of that claim.  No surprise.

You can't be serious.

You were asking for links and they gave you two articles and excerpts from two different liberal commentators.  Do you disagree with what those commentator said about Obama violating the law?

While repeatedly asking them for links, you agreed with Vince, without asking for a link. 

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There's was a law that was written and signed by Obama however it exempts emergency and top secret actions in addition to the president having executive order anyway.  Constitutionally, Obama could actually ignore the law entirely

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Exactly.  But let's not let a little fact or logic interfere with the whinefest the dimwits are doing. 

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2014, 01:53:25 PM »
You were asking for links and they gave you two articles and excerpts from two different liberal commentators.  Do you disagree with what those commentator said about Obama violating the law?

While repeatedly asking them for links, you agreed with Vince, without asking for a link. 



Surely the law is written down somewhere for the common people to find and not have to rely on it being fed to them by "commentators".  I asked for a link to where this was spelled out since one little retard made that statement.

Linking to commentators that parrot the claim is not the same thing. 

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2014, 08:49:36 PM »
Daily Mail ^ | 6-5-2014 | David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor
Posted on June 5, 2014 at 8:23:20 PM EDT by sheikdetailfeather

The Obama administration passed up multiple opportunities to rescue Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl because the president was dead-set on finding a reason to begin emptying Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a Pentagon official.

'JSOC went to the White House with several specific rescue-op scenarios,' the official with knowledge of interagency negotiations underway since at least November 2013 told MailOnline, referring to the Joint Special Operations Command. 'But no one ever got traction.'

'What we learned along the way was that the president wanted a diplomatic scenario that would establish a precedent for repatriating detainees from Gitmo,' he said.

The official said a State Department liaison described the lay of the land to him in February, shortly after the Taliban sent the U.S. government a month-old video of Bergdahl in January, looking sickly and haggard, in an effort to create a sense of urgency about his health and effect a quick prisoner trade.

'He basically told me that no matter what JSOC put on the table, it was never going to fly because the president isn't going to leave office with Gitmo intact, and this was the best opportunity to see that through.'

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2014, 08:36:04 PM »
 
The law is clear:
Via BlackFive:


Obama should have read this before he started negotiating with the Taliban.
The US “will make no concessions to terrorists. It will not pay ransoms, release prisoners, change its policies or agree to other acts that might encourage additional terrorism.”

U.S. Policy and Response to Terrorists

Since no country is immune to terrorism, it is imperative that governments have the appropriate policies, intelligence and flexible response options to deal effectively with terrorist acts. Trained personnel and programs must be in place before, during and after each crisis, both to respond to the problem and to answer inevitable criticism in the event of failure. Long-term policies to achieve these objectives are costly, complicated and difficult, yet essential as a defense against the importation of terrorism from overseas.

CURRENT POLICY

The U.S. position on terrorism is unequivocal: firm opposition to terrorism in all its forms and wherever it takes place. Several National Security Decision Directives as well as statements by the President and senior officials confirm this policy:

• The U.S. Government is opposed to domestic and international terrorism and is prepared to act in concert with other nations or unilaterally when necessary to prevent or respond to terrorist acts.
• The U.S. Government considers the practice of terrorism by any person or group a potential threat to its national security and will resist the use of terrorism by all legal means available.
• States that practice terrorism or actively support it will not do so without consequence. If there is evidence that a state is mounting or intends to conduct an act of terrorism against this country, the United States will take measures to protect its citizens, property and interests.
• The U.S. Government will make no concessions to terrorists. It will not pay ransoms, release prisoners, change its policies or agree to other acts that might encourage additional terrorism. At the same time, the United States will use every available resource to gain the safe return of American citizens who are held hostage by terrorists.
• The United States will act in a strong manner against terrorists without surrendering basic freedoms or endangering democratic principles, and encourages other governments to take similar stands.

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2014, 11:13:59 AM »
 
The law is clear:
Via BlackFive:


Obama should have read this before he started negotiating with the Taliban.
The US “will make no concessions to terrorists. It will not pay ransoms, release prisoners, change its policies or agree to other acts that might encourage additional terrorism.”

U.S. Policy and Response to Terrorists

Since no country is immune to terrorism, it is imperative that governments have the appropriate policies, intelligence and flexible response options to deal effectively with terrorist acts. Trained personnel and programs must be in place before, during and after each crisis, both to respond to the problem and to answer inevitable criticism in the event of failure. Long-term policies to achieve these objectives are costly, complicated and difficult, yet essential as a defense against the importation of terrorism from overseas.

CURRENT POLICY

The U.S. position on terrorism is unequivocal: firm opposition to terrorism in all its forms and wherever it takes place. Several National Security Decision Directives as well as statements by the President and senior officials confirm this policy:

• The U.S. Government is opposed to domestic and international terrorism and is prepared to act in concert with other nations or unilaterally when necessary to prevent or respond to terrorist acts.
• The U.S. Government considers the practice of terrorism by any person or group a potential threat to its national security and will resist the use of terrorism by all legal means available.
• States that practice terrorism or actively support it will not do so without consequence. If there is evidence that a state is mounting or intends to conduct an act of terrorism against this country, the United States will take measures to protect its citizens, property and interests.
• The U.S. Government will make no concessions to terrorists. It will not pay ransoms, release prisoners, change its policies or agree to other acts that might encourage additional terrorism. At the same time, the United States will use every available resource to gain the safe return of American citizens who are held hostage by terrorists.
• The United States will act in a strong manner against terrorists without surrendering basic freedoms or endangering democratic principles, and encourages other governments to take similar stands.

Yo self-proclaimed lawyer-boy,  where da link at?

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2014, 11:28:40 AM »
sounds about right... obama wants his legacy to be "I led the emptying of Gitmo!"

Plus whatever shady shit this dude was up to.  If we're being told "deserter", who knows what else he was up to.

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2014, 11:48:35 AM »
sounds about right... obama wants his legacy to be "I led the emptying of Gitmo!"

...

I've been thinking this, too. 

To be fair, though, I'm pretty sure it was one of his campaign promises. 

(And everyone knows how is about keeping his word, lol.)

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2014, 03:47:39 PM »
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Obama Could Be Facing 10 years to Life In Prison…
Western Journalism / Fox News ^ | June 6, 2014 | Tom Hinchey
Posted on 06/06/2014 5:09:05 PM PDT by bamahead

Shepard Smith asked Judge Andrew Napolitano whether or not the Taliban prisoner exchange was legal under the NDAA H.R. 1960 Statute.

The judge explained that the swap was illegal because taxpayer dollars were spent to remove these prisoners from Guantanamo Bay without giving Congress 30 days notice.

However, Napolitano goes a step further by pointing out that Obama has provided material assistance (human assets) to the Taliban, which has been identified by Congress to be a non-state terrorist organization. This is a crime punishable by imprisonment of 10 years to life, which covers all Americans–including the President.

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2014, 04:11:19 PM »
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Obama Could Be Facing 10 years to Life In Prison…
Western Journalism / Fox News ^ | June 6, 2014 | Tom Hinchey
Posted on 06/06/2014 5:09:05 PM PDT by bamahead

Shepard Smith asked Judge Andrew Napolitano whether or not the Taliban prisoner exchange was legal under the NDAA H.R. 1960 Statute.

The judge explained that the swap was illegal because taxpayer dollars were spent to remove these prisoners from Guantanamo Bay without giving Congress 30 days notice.

However, Napolitano goes a step further by pointing out that Obama has provided material assistance (human assets) to the Taliban, which has been identified by Congress to be a non-state terrorist organization. This is a crime punishable by imprisonment of 10 years to life, which covers all Americans–including the President.


Now we're talking.

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2014, 05:42:18 PM »
Napalitano knows exactly what to say to fire up the retards who watch Faux News.

Did he happen to mention that the Bush administration released or transferred over 500 detainees?


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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2014, 09:22:01 PM »
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Obama Could Be Facing 10 years to Life In Prison…
Western Journalism / Fox News ^ | June 6, 2014 | Tom Hinchey
Posted on 06/06/2014 5:09:05 PM PDT by bamahead

Shepard Smith asked Judge Andrew Napolitano whether or not the Taliban prisoner exchange was legal under the NDAA H.R. 1960 Statute.

The judge explained that the swap was illegal because taxpayer dollars were spent to remove these prisoners from Guantanamo Bay without giving Congress 30 days notice.

However, Napolitano goes a step further by pointing out that Obama has provided material assistance (human assets) to the Taliban, which has been identified by Congress to be a non-state terrorist organization. This is a crime punishable by imprisonment of 10 years to life, which covers all Americans–including the President.



Napolitano is an idiot and shit stirrer for Fox News.  Wishful thinking from the bitter party of the right
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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2014, 11:01:02 AM »

Napolitano is an idiot and shit stirrer for Fox News.  Wishful thinking from the bitter party of the right
He is an idiot now.

But when he criticized the GOP you were hailing his courage and along with others, describing him as the "only objective voice at Fox".

You are like every other libtard, democrat scumbag.  

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2014, 11:02:36 AM »
What are the odds OB gets impeached over this?   10000000 to 1?

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2014, 12:26:01 PM »
What are the odds OB gets impeached over this?   10000000 to 1?

A LANDSLIDE!!!!

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Re: "Obama clearly broke the law" - time for jail and impeachment
« Reply #99 on: June 20, 2014, 05:50:04 PM »
“I am scared to death for our country” : Energy CEO says Obama DESTROYING low-cost energy with EPA
http://therightscoop.com/ ^ | June 20, 2014 | The Right Scoop
Posted on June 20, 2014 at 8:23:29 PM EDT by Whenifhow

Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray says he is scared to death for this country, for poor people, those who live on fixed incomes and for people who are retiring.

Murray says Obama is illegally using the EPA and the Clean Air Act to take over the US Electric Power Grid and in the process he’s destroying low-cost energy.

Murray points out that coal is only 4 cents per kilowatt-hour and Obama wants to replace it with renewable energy sources, wind and solar, that cost 22 cents per kilowatt-hour.

By 2030, according to Murray, we will be down from 40% coal-fired electricity to 14% coal-fired electricity.

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