Will the Eric Cantor loss make repubs rethink Amnesty?

[240 is Back]

Sure, all the party hacks fell right in line with "Okay, amnesty is cool after all" when Priebus told them to do so, following the 2012 Romney spanking.

But this candidate that defeated Cantor by 10 points while spending a fraction of the $... he ran almost entirely on the anti-illegal-immigration issue, and voters that fat north responded in a big way.  The repub BASE turned against this liberal mandate of "oh, we gotta legalize it to win back hispanic voters!"

What happens now?  Rand, Jeb, Rubio... they're already on record supporting amnesty/dream silliness.  DO they stick with it?  Try to scoot back?  How many of these blowout losses of RINO incumbents will it take before repubs wisen up?  Or do they all wait til the 2014 midterms are over, then BAM, suddenly they all go hard RINO for the prez election?  That's what happened in 2010... everyone slurped the Tea Party in 2010, then quietly moved centrist for the RINOmney presidential run.

[Soul Crusher]

The GOP needs to get the fuck back in line w the base.  The RINO shit needs to stop asap

[240 is Back]

The GOP needs to get the fuck back in line w the base.  The RINO shit needs to stop asap

Reince Priebus is probably the man that cost the Repubs the 2016 white house.

He forced Hannity and media whores to get onboard with amnesty.
He forced Rand and Rubio to publicly back it.
Jeb - I think he just truly believes in it.

Palin, Romney, mccain, Rudy - they were all allowing sanctuary cities long before this stuff.  But the new move, 2 weeks after the 2012 spanking.... THAT is the one which can cost them the next election.  These guys are all on record supporting it.  They can't just flop back... sure, the repub kneepadders would support them, but the base?  The base KNOWS the Jeb will let the illegals stay.  They know it.  They know rubio will.  And now that Rand said he will... Paul Ryan loosening up...

I dont know how the GOP gets back in line.  Most (but not cruz) have backed it publicly.

[JOHN MATRIX]

The stupidity of the establishment GOP cannot be understated. Wouldnt surprise me if they doubled down on Amnesty now.

[240 is Back]

The stupidity of the establishment GOP cannot be understated. Wouldnt surprise me if they doubled down on Amnesty now.

boehnner is holding an emergency meeting with congressional repubs today.

panic time?   Cantor seemed like a lock to keep this job - dude spent WAY more money.  Lost the primary on one issue... immigration.  Nothing else.  That was it.  The issue has repubs voters absolutely livid. 

many of us said it - it wont win votes, it'll only hurt with the base.  Cantor's loss proves that correct. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

They already have. See today's WSJ editorial page. So will Bratt, assuming he gets elected. Once he gets to Washington he'll start banging one of his hot young staffers, he'll start living it up on the lobbyists' expense accounts, and generally realize how great being a US Congressman really is. Then he'll fall in line and do whatever he's told.

[Straw Man]

Being pro-immigration reform didn't seem to hurt Lindsey Graham

Cantor was out of touch with his constituents and he got torpedoed by a teabagger in a low turn out primary (and of course God helped out too, at least according to David Brat)

Given that immigration reform has broad support among even Repblicans Brat may very well have to find a new message if he wants to win the general election or at the very least broaden his message so that he doesn't turn away the non-tea bag Republican

[flipper5470]

It was NOT a low turnout primary....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/12/cantor-didnt-lose-because-of-low-turnout-he-lost-because-turnout-was-so-high/

Brat is not a "teabagger"....none of the larger tea party organizations spent any money or resources helping him.  He won because Cantor lost touch with his district and really pissed people off.  Since nobody bothered to take an exit poll, we really don't know why they were pissed...they just were.

There ay have been some democrats voting Brat to stick it to Cantor....but there's no way to tell how big a impact that may have had.    Graham won because...unlike Cantor...he recognized that he had a problem with the home folks and he was smart enough to reach out to them before it was too late.

I oppose immigration reform...we've been sold this bill of goods before.  You can talk all you want about paths to citizenship and strict requirements to learn English...pay fines..yadda yadda yadda...but there's never any enforcement of those laws.  Hell...we aren't even bothering to secure the border right now.   You'd have to be a complete moron to put any faith in the Federal government's pledge to make good on enforcement.   Secure the border and demonstrate a willingness to enforce the law and we'll talk about what to do with the gazillion illegals here now.

[Straw Man]

It was NOT a low turnout primary....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/12/cantor-didnt-lose-because-of-low-turnout-he-lost-because-turnout-was-so-high/

Brat is not a "teabagger"....none of the larger tea party organizations spent any money or resources helping him.  He won because Cantor lost touch with his district and really pissed people off.  Since nobody bothered to take an exit poll, we really don't know why they were pissed...they just were.

There ay have been some democrats voting Brat to stick it to Cantor....but there's no way to tell how big a impact that may have had.    Graham won because...unlike Cantor...he recognized that he had a problem with the home folks and he was smart enough to reach out to them before it was too late.

I oppose immigration reform...we've been sold this bill of goods before.  You can talk all you want about paths to citizenship and strict requirements to learn English...pay fines..yadda yadda yadda...but there's never any enforcement of those laws.  Hell...we aren't even bothering to secure the border right now.   You'd have to be a complete moron to put any faith in the Federal government's pledge to make good on enforcement.   Secure the border and demonstrate a willingness to enforce the law and we'll talk about what to do with the gazillion illegals here now.

Holy Shit, an "on topic" and valid rebuttal with a link ...good job (seriously)

Good point in the turnout but I see no evidence that he is not a tea bagger and certainly his positions on immigration and gun control are more in line with the tea party than with the republican party.  Tea baggers are also claiming him as one of their own and I don't see him denying it though if you have a link or something where he does that is cool.

Cantor was definitely out of touch with his constituents (getting booed by them) but I don't know if the autopsy on his defeat is done yet.