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[Go 4 It]

 

[njflex]

ESFitness gave a perfect response to upper chest training in another thread.
Basically its bollocks.

look at your chest full and shaped ,i'm sure you didn't daydream all day until your chest workout about how your going to do inclines first and then so on...

[Rudee]

Why bison over very lean hamburger?

I've been eating ground bison for several years now, and most of my main meals revolve around bison when it comes to getting into beach body shape each summer.    A large homemadeTaco salad with ground bison, shredded lettuce, cheese, chopped tomato and spices is one of my favorite meals for getting ripped for summer.  

[Simple Simon]

look at your chest full and shaped ,i'm sure you didn't daydream all day until your chest workout about how your going to do inclines first and then so on...

If you are going to get thick upper pecs you will get them with declines.
People dont seem top grasp how the pectoral muscle works.

I challenge anyone to fully flex your pecs and I bet nobody holds their arms out horizontally in front of them or at an incline upwards.
Everyone to a man/woman will do this

[njflex]

If you are going to get thick upper pecs you will get them with declines.
People dont seem top grasp how the pectoral muscle works.

I challenge anyone to fully flex your pecs and I bet nobody holds their arms out horizontally in front of them or at an incline upwards.
Everyone to a man/woman will do this

declines for me are a shoulder wrecker,and most people due to the movement being short ranged go way too heavy...most people will say'declines are for lower pecs..'

[Go 4 It]

I do one burnout set of decline barbell at the end of my chest routine. .just 1 plate for as many reps I can get. .usually shoot for 20-25 reps.

[Simple Simon]

declines for me are a shoulder wrecker,and most people due to the movement being short ranged go way too heavy...most people will say'declines are for lower pecs..'

Stop going heavy on them, and 'most people' are wrong.
All I do for pecs are decline machine press, cable flys (standing) and a one arm standing fly with my power band.

[mr.turbo]

Here's what Arnold thinks: 

Ever the diligent student, Arnold analyzed his idol’s chest development the way a, geneticist might examine a string of nucleotides and determined that there were three distinct features that, when viewed as a whole, accounted for Park’s pectoral prosperity.

First, the muscles themselves were just plain large: thick, wide and high.

Second, his pectoralis major (the lower portion) and pectoralis minor (the upper portion) groups were balanced with one another in a way that gave his chest a proportionate squared-off look rather than the rounded sagging appearance typical of those who focused too heavily on flat benches and not enough on inclines. Finally, supporting Park’s pecs was a voluminous rib cage, the biggest in the sport at the time.

http://www.simplyshredded.com/chest-master-how-arnold-schwarzenegger-built-the-best-chest-of-all-time.html

[Skorp1o]

ESFitness gave a perfect response to upper chest training in another thread.
Basically its bollocks.

My chest is a lot thicker than his....I'm.not sure I am ready to listen 

[Simple Simon]

My chest is a lot thicker than his....I'm.not sure I am ready to listen 

Im not his biggest fan but it was pretty damning on the whole inclines for upper pecs nonsense.

[wes]

Dude always looks great! 

[Skorp1o]

Im not his biggest fan but it was pretty damning on the whole inclines for upper pecs nonsense.

Don't you just sometimes wish esfitness was a big jacked up dude, just so we can complete the picture...he takes the gear, he talks the talk then its a deflated balloon...bit like pulling a really hot girl, then you fuck with a limp semi hard cock...a tad bit iof disappointement lingers.

[Simple Simon]

Don't you just sometimes wish esfitness was a big jacked up dude, just so we can complete the picture...he takes the gear, he talks the talk then its a deflated balloon...bit like pulling a really hot girl, then you fuck with a limp semi hard cock...a tad bit iof disappointement lingers.

never happened to me mate. 

[TheShape.]

150 lbs? Amazing.

[no one]

150 lbs? Amazing.

[Straw Man]

you might need to resize the jpeg to be able to read it

[Straw Man]

This is basically the template for John Kiefers Carbnite or maybe Carb Backloading (given the option for a potato in the evening meal)

http://rippeder.com/content/what-arnold-really-ate-70s

You have probably read Arnold's books or read his article on Flex magazine but have you ever wondered is that how and what he really ate? Well back in the early 1970's Arnold Schwarzenegger trained with Ric Drasin. Ric is an accomplished artist, actor, webcast host, stuntman, writer, personal trainer, former bodybuilder and retired pro wrestler. He has a series show on youtube called Ric's Corner. Well having trained with Arnold he has some insider information on what Arnold really ate. According to Ric the diet consisted of the following:

Morning: (At Zucky's)

Cheese Omelet
Hamburger patty
Cottage cheese
Coffee

Lunch:

Beef patty
Eggs
Cottage cheese

Dinner:

Steak or Chicken
Cottage cheese
Salad or baked potato

In between Meals:

Rheo Blair's Protein

On Sunday's only:

Eat whatever you want: pizza, ice cream, and so on

[Hulkotron]

Pectoralis minor is a very small muscle that is underneath the pec major.  "Targeting" it with incline bench to build a big upper chest is the worst kind of broscience nonsense.

[Rammstein]

I train one body part a day, 4 exercises, 16 sets, reps between 6-12..just incorporated ab training post cardio for the comp training.

Great.

Good luck!

[Rammstein]

you might need to resize the jpeg to be able to read it

Thanks for the upload.

I also recommend "Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors Vol. 1". Goes into the dietary habits of the old-timers. Very interesting read.

[Go 4 It]

Dude always looks great! 

thanks wes!

you might need to resize the jpeg to be able to read it

interesting. .I've never tried those liver tabs..anybody here ever experimented with this diet, supplement protocol?

[Shockwave]

thanks wes!interesting. .I've never tried those liver tabs..anybody here ever experimented with this diet, supplement protocol?

Well considering the supplement protocol is from the 70's, I'd say you probably don't quite need some of that stuff.

[njflex]

Well considering the supplement protocol is from the 70's, I'd say you probably don't quite need some of that stuff.

I agree..liver tabs stink literally..

[Straw Man]

http://www.beverlyinternational.com/products/ultra40.html

I take these almost every day.  They don't stink or smell at all.
I can't stand the taste of liver so taking a 2-3 tabs a few times a day is my alternative to eating it.   

[MAXX]

If you are going to get thick upper pecs you will get them with declines.

bullshit!!! stop missleading


train a session inclines only and you will get a sore upper chest.

train flat and declines only and you will get a sore lower chest.