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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2014, 12:58:45 PM »

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2014, 01:01:16 PM »
400lb Tire Flips





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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2014, 01:01:42 PM »
Have you ever box squatted?

He didn't even know what it was until I posted it.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2014, 01:04:42 PM »
Have you ever box squatted?
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2014, 01:04:55 PM »
So the coach copied crossfit and now he calls it MPF systems, guess he is too cheap to pay to be certified.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2014, 01:12:00 PM »
Box squats being a prime example of his sillyness

Get a bar on your back and prepare to squat, you go down into a squat position with every fibre of your musculature supporting your skeletal structure then what do you do, you sit on a box totally relaxing your quads glutes and lower back, the weight still on the shoulders then bears down on the spine, the weakest area (L4 & L5 joints) take all the strain.

Ideal way to blow out a disc.

I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2014, 01:13:03 PM »
:D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=814692918550021&set=vb.118339598185360&type=2&theater

Could you get Jason Genova in shape?

Why don't you fly him out for publicity and get him a six pack?

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2014, 01:16:11 PM »
Coach runs a multimillion dollar nationally renowned training center, yet the experts on getbig still know more than him about training!  :D

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2014, 01:17:03 PM »
I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.
We are all different mate, my low back wouldnt stand it.
I avoid squats totally.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2014, 01:20:41 PM »
We are all different mate, my low back wouldnt stand it.
I avoid squats totally.

Should have said that in the beginning instead of making blanket statements.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2014, 02:21:00 PM »
Only if he were taught wrong.

what is proper form on the one handed giant tire flip? is the leg kick at the end were he bumps it with his hip kinda and turns his body correct?

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2014, 06:34:16 PM »
coach probably doesn't understand the basics of physics


The guy comes across cocky as hell when he gets results with high school athletes. No shit anything a high school athlete will do will work.  ::)

take a  d1 college  football player who's been running a 4.6 for four years straight and get him to run  a 4.5, then I'll be impressed.
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2014, 06:55:35 PM »

The guy comes across cocky as hell when he gets results with high school athletes. No shit anything a high school athlete will do will work.  ::)

take a  d1 college  football player who's been running a 4.6 for four years straight and get him to run  a 4.5, then I'll be impressed.

We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2014, 07:09:33 PM »
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2014, 07:29:54 PM »
We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.

care to name the professional athletes you groomed from the time they were 14 years old?
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2014, 07:32:19 PM »
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.


yep. we all remember when we started training for the most part anything we did would make our bench press go up. Flyes, pushdowns, etc. Once I got past the 350 mark, I found only a specific few exercises did anything for my bench
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2014, 08:10:00 PM »
I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.

It's the long term issues that get you, I did it for a decade and put up some healthy numbers. Nowadays, hell no. Just going up to 455 was enough to remind me why I quit them.

High bar Oly squats > all

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2014, 08:10:25 PM »
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.

I wrote an article relating to just that...


http://mpftrainingsystems.com/the-need-for-off-season-speed-its-not-what-you-think/

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2014, 08:32:43 PM »
Coach hopefully you know that Im just messing with you, I know your a bright guy its just that I don't agree with the westside system for training athletes. I don't have the credentials, but I have talked to guys who do. And the fact is that an athlete at an advanced level can not make gains training for multiple tasks at once or he will inevitably overtrain. The human organism simply can not adapt to the workload placed upon it at that level...   speed, strength, GPP, etc  must be developed in different phases of the training year...making the  block periodization method optimal.  (which the westside system disagrees with)

I know most of your kids are at the high school or college level and many times lack the strength and muscle mass..so yeah...using the conjugate/westside system might be optimal in this case.
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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2014, 08:48:19 PM »
Coach hopefully you know that Im just messing with you, I know your a bright guy its just that I don't agree with the westside system for training athletes. I don't have the credentials, but I have talked to guys who do. And the fact is that an athlete at an advanced level can not make gains training for multiple tasks at once or he will inevitably overtrain. The human organism simply can not adapt to the workload placed upon it at that level...   speed, strength, GPP, etc  must be developed in different phases of the training year...making the  block periodization method optimal.  (which the westside system disagrees with)

I know most of your kids are at the high school or college level and many times lack the strength and muscle mass..so yeah...using the conjugate/westside system might be optimal in this case.

What do you mean by multiple tasks?

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2014, 02:54:23 AM »
Poor handicaped boy.

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2014, 03:55:00 AM »


Ain't a full squat till your balls touch the floor

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Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2014, 03:57:04 AM »
We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.
Did you get him to run downhill?

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