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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 07:12:47 PM »
Will Romney test the waters again in 2016?

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 07:18:39 PM »
Will Romney test the waters again in 2016?

LOL.   There was no candidate in modern history that was more beatable than Obama in 2012.  Remember all that "He's doing worse than CARTER! LOL" talk?   And he won by a decent margin.

Romney had a LEAD after debate #1, then failed in so many ways.  NO WAY the repubs should trust him with the nomination again.  He's a RINO, he had his chance, he gave it everything he had, and he was up against the worst opponent in 50 years.  And he lost big.

Ann Coulter was right - "If repubs choose romney, he will lose" and he did.  She had no problem using her far-right credibility to accurately diss the shit out of Mitt Romney.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 06:10:39 AM »
Buyer's remorse.

But it's too late.

The only thing this shows is that Democrat party supporters are slow learners.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 07:07:11 AM »
Buyer's remorse.

But it's too late.

The only thing this shows is that Democrat party supporters are slow learners.

These fucking morons voted for ofag based on birth control abortion gay marriage and other nonsense.   Typical of liberal bird brains 

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Americans really wish they had elected Mitt Romney instead of Obama
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 07:45:08 AM »
Amazing what it takes for people to finally wake up ::)


Mitt Romney 2014?

Americans are so down on President Obama at the moment that, if they could do the 2012 election all over again, they'd overwhelmingly back the former Massachusetts governor's bid. That's just one finding in a brutal CNN poll, released Sunday, which shows Romney topping Obama in a re-election rematch by a whopping nine-point margin, 53 percent to 44 percent. That's an even larger spread than CNN found in November, when a survey had Romney winning a redo 49 percent to 45 percent.

Two years ago, Obama won re-election with about 51 percent of the vote.

Of course, the poll should be taken with a grain of salt. While Obama is actually taking on the tough task of leading the nation, Romney is sitting comfortably on the sidelines. Still, the finding comes as foreign and domestic crises have sent Obama's approval rating tumbling back to 40 percent, per Gallup.

Also in the CNN survey, a record-low 46 percent say Obama "shares [their] values," while only 49 percent say he is "sincere in what he says," also a record-low.
- - Jon Terbush

http://theweek.com/article/index/265418/speedreads-americans-really-wish-they-elected-mitt-romney-instead-of-obama


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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 07:51:29 AM »
LOL.   There was no candidate in modern history that was more beatable than Obama in 2012.  Remember all that "He's doing worse than CARTER! LOL" talk?   And he won by a decent margin.

Romney had a LEAD after debate #1, then failed in so many ways.  NO WAY the repubs should trust him with the nomination again.  He's a RINO, he had his chance, he gave it everything he had, and he was up against the worst opponent in 50 years.  And he lost big.

Ann Coulter was right - "If repubs choose romney, he will lose" and he did.  She had no problem using her far-right credibility to accurately diss the shit out of Mitt Romney.

This is such bullshit

Obama is completely unbeatable as a candidate and everyone knew it. No one seriously thought he would lose that election. Thats why most of the big name Repubs sat it out.

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Obama was at 41% in 2012 and still kicked the crap outta romney.   

Obama was at the lowest of any sitting prez at that point to have ever won.  Lower than carter, and still won comfortably.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 08:23:59 AM »
This is such bullshit

Obama is completely unbeatable as a candidate and everyone knew it. No one seriously thought he would lose that election. Thats why most of the big name Repubs sat it out.

matrix, I respect you a lot because you're not a blind sheep on 911, lol, but in terms of this issue, I have to disagree.

Romney led in the polls after debate #1.   INTRADE had him winning it... globally, people were betting millions on romney to win.  

Remember karl rove on election night?  Romney too... completely SHOCKED they didn't win, and their polling had predicted.  A lot of people did think he would win.

Now, I've talked about the power of the incumbency for years, I was very sure it'd take a lot more than a RINO to defeat a sitting prez... but in terms of polling and approval numbers, obama should have lost.  He was doing worse in 2012 than anyone who had ever won re-election.  

And who are the BIG names that sat out?   Jeb was still too close to 2008 with the bad name recognition.  Huck is a flake.  Trump just teases his confused hapless base.  Palin will just tease her uber-dimwitted base with it.  Martinez too young.  Nobody really stands out in my mind as a heavyweight that didn't run.  Perry and Mitt both ran.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 08:47:48 AM »
matrix, I respect you a lot because you're not a blind sheep on 911, lol, but in terms of this issue, I have to disagree.

Romney led in the polls after debate #1.   INTRADE had him winning it... globally, people were betting millions on romney to win.  

Remember karl rove on election night?  Romney too... completely SHOCKED they didn't win, and their polling had predicted.  A lot of people did think he would win.

Now, I've talked about the power of the incumbency for years, I was very sure it'd take a lot more than a RINO to defeat a sitting prez... but in terms of polling and approval numbers, obama should have lost.  He was doing worse in 2012 than anyone who had ever won re-election.  

And who are the BIG names that sat out?   Jeb was still too close to 2008 with the bad name recognition.  Huck is a flake.  Trump just teases his confused hapless base.  Palin will just tease her uber-dimwitted base with it.  Martinez too young.  Nobody really stands out in my mind as a heavyweight that didn't run.  Perry and Mitt both ran.

Excellent points.  Obama was the most beatable candidate in modern times to run and still won.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 08:50:18 AM »
BRIETBART: TOP 10 REASONS OBAMA WILL LOSE THIS FALL
April 17, 2012

The working assumption, in the modern media, is that Obama simply cannot lose his reelection bid. Obviously, they want “The One” to be around for two. While their ever-present and sometimes intense rooting for him will certainly help Obama, there are a host of reasons why Obama will lose. Here’s a list:
1. Obama’s Shrinking Coalition. Obama was only elected with 52.9% of the vote. That is a slim majority. Since taking office, he has shrunk that coalition by fighting with Americans. Here are some of the ways he did that:
a. He alienated most of what little Republican support he had with the Stimulus Bill;
b. He alienated support in energy related states by shutting down the Gulf after the BP spill, rejecting the Keystone pipeline, and imposing part of Cap & Trade through the EPA after it failed in Congress, including his draconian new rules for the coal industry;
c. He alienated law and order folks by wanting to try foreign combatants in American Courts;
d. He alienated many religious minded voters, including Catholic Bishops (no easy task) with his mandated contraception insurance coverage rules; and
e. He alienated voters who care about the Constitution, or at least our governmental balance, with ObamaCare, his imposition of Czars and other rather undemocratic ways of pushing his policies on the American voter.
Also, Obama’s current strategy of pitting Americans against one another is a complete reversal of his 2008 strategy of wanting to unite people and is an admission that his prior coalitions have fallen apart.
2. The Enthusiasm Gap. Rabid support on the Left has dropped for Obama. To them, Obama is not as “pure” as they would like. That drop off is not an unusual effect for a sitting President.  Beyond that, in 2008, enthusiasm was greatly in favor of the Democrats, yet Obama only got to 52.9% of the vote. In the 2010 midterm elections, the enthusiasm advantage was held by Republicans to great effect. The same dynamic will hold true this year even if not to the same degree.
3. ObamaCare’s Impending Supreme Defeat. ObamaCare has never been popular with voters. Since it was imposed on voters, a majority of Americans have been against it, and by a 3 to 1 margin they have been against the individual mandate. If and when the Supreme Court overturns it, voters will be happy it is gone, and Obama will be tagged with a major and embarrassing election year defeat.
4. Obama has raised Taxes and is Campaigning to Do it Again. In over 20 ways, including Obamacare, Obama has raised taxes against far more than those making over $250,000. He will let the Bush tax cuts expire and he is actively campaigning for tax increases. The last 8 Presidential winners have campaigned for tax cuts – as Obama did four years ago. No winners in the last 8 have campaigned for tax increases.
5. The Deficit is Too High for Reelection. The deficit is over a trillion dollars per year and is expected to be so for some time. National debt has risen to the top of polling concerns of Americans. Bush 41, despite an improving economy that was growing over 4% per year on Election Day, lost his reelection because Ross Perot made the deficit such a huge issue. Although the deficit alone does not hold center stage in this election, it certainly is dragging down Obama’s approval numbers.
6. Unemployment too High for a Reelection. We haven’t reelected a President, since the Great Depression, with unemployment above 7.2%. It is above 8% now, and recent figures give every indication it may go higher. Further, the number of Americans that have dropped out of the workforce/looking for a job is at an all-time high. Reagan was reelected despite what was then a high rate because unemployment had dropped from 10.8% 23 months earlier to 7.2% by Election Day. Obama can show no such progression. Indeed, some economists expect it to rise in the short run.
7. Obama’s Leadership Deficit: He Has No Plans for our Major Problems & Blames Others. Devoid of a good economic record and despite enacting or imposing all of  his policies, Obama continues to blame others for America’s problems. That is decidedly un-presidential after four years. Worse, he has no clear plans to deal with the future--no plan to deal with unemployment, no clear plans to deal with the deficit (other than raising tax rates – bad idea), no clear plans to deal with high gas prices, no clear plans to deal with rising health care premiums, etc. Leadership is about vision, plans, the ability to execute on those two and thefour years of economic trouble. Fool me once . . .
8. Consumer Confidence is too low for a Reelection. We haven’t reelected a president or his party in the television age with the Consumer Confidence Index, as measured by The Conference Board, below 100. Right now it is at 70. Although it was improving earlier this year from around 60 a year ago, higher gas prices have begun to choke off the economy, and the unemployment picture is and will be impacted by our slowing economy. Gas prices will rise again this summe, further impacting Consumer Confidence. As a result, it will be nearly impossible for Consumer Confidence to get anywhere near 100. It may not get to 80. So, for Obama to win, the last two indicators (unemployment and consumer confidence) would have to be ignored in historic fashion.
9. Republicans will Rise from Here. The end of a tough primary fight is usually the low point for the out party. Republican on Republican or Democrat on Democrat can be quite negative, because the policy differences between the two are usually small;  therefore, to make a difference, candidates get personal. Once it becomes Republican on Democrat, policy differences can take center stage. In this case, it will move from Republican infighting to Obama’s record. That’s a stage on which Republicans can win.
10. A Simple, Practical Presidential Election. It is true; this is the most important election in a generation. From ObamaCare to the economy, the next Supreme Court appointment to Iran, there is a lot on the line. Even so, it will not be a complicated election. Romney can campaign rather easily with practical solutions:
a. Obama won’t let Keystone be built, I will;
b. Obama won’t repeal ObamaCare, I will;
c. Obama’s budget leads to more deficits; I will cut the deficit;
d. Obama will continue to raise your taxes; I will clean up the tax code.
In the final analysis, people will do two things this fall: (1) ask if they are better off than four years ago and (2) cast a vote for their future. Statistically, voters are not better off – whether that is based on employment figures or loss in wealth, including dramatic drops in home owner equity. Psychologically, they are not better off either. Over 2/3rds say we are headed in the wrong direction (reason #11).
After four years of that, voters want direction not excuses - a plan not vague promises. Obama has never given an agenda to the American people – he just enforces his agenda many times over their objections. Romney, by contrast, will provide a clear and practical path forward. In times of trouble, people want someone with a plan – all of which means that Romney can win this election – even decisively.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 08:52:38 AM »
Jeb sat out. Rand sat out. Chris Chrispy Creme sat out too despite everyone trying to convince him to enter.
Look, i get how you see omaba as being beatable, but you are basing it only on actual job performance/achievement (what it should be lol) and COMPLETELY IGNORING the fact that obama is not just a typical candidate.

Had obama been the standard old white guy president, then yes, he would have been massively vulnerable and may have even lost. But obama is not just the standard rich old white politician, and he was and still is never held to their standards.

Obama transcended politics. He wasnt just a candidate, he was a movement, an ideology, a celebrity, a historical figure. There is literally nothing he could do that would get the democrat base to not vote for him. 98% of blacks were always going to vote for him no matter what. Hollywood loved him, and promoted him with all their influence. The media loved him, shielded him, and promoted him with all their influence. EVEN TODAY, despite the clear and complete disaster he is, his approval rating rarely goes below the low 40's. He is the first black president ever...that fact alone moves enormous amounts of people -including whites- to vote for him.

Of course the right leaning media sources and names were saying mitt was close, or could win. Thats their job. Hes their horse. But realistically, EVERYONE knew obama would win. The repub opposition was a joke from day one, no one on his own party even wanted Mitt to begin with. The entire republican effort in 2012 was half hearted from day one. Everyone knew deep down Obama the icon/celebrity/historical figure was not going to be beaten.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 08:54:46 AM »
Everyone knew deep down Obama the icon/celebrity/historical figure was not going to be beaten.

You, me, and many others knew this.  But there was a core group of getbiggers that truly believe obama would lose by 40 states.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 08:56:44 AM »
Just a tad late, but at least some people are no longer drinking the Kool-Aide. 

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2014, 09:13:51 AM »
You, me, and many others knew this.  But there was a core group of getbiggers that truly believe obama would lose by 40 states.

I think deep down they too knew he wasnt going to lose.  Especially as the campaigns played out towards the end

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2014, 09:16:18 AM »
You, me, and many others knew this.  But there was a core group of getbiggers that truly believe obama would lose by 40 states.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2014, 09:17:30 AM »
The funny thing is, EVEN NOW obama would be extremely hard to beat. His voting blocks, unrepentant apologist voters and uniqueness as a candidate/celebrity/media darling would still be tremendously hard to overcome.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2014, 09:20:52 AM »
The funny thing is, EVEN NOW obama would be extremely hard to beat. His voting blocks, unrepentant apologist voters and uniqueness as a candidate/celebrity/media darling would still be tremendously hard to overcome.

Sad but true.  The media would still support him.  He would still raise a ton of money.  Saul Alinsky's Rules would be in full force and effect. 

It is actually a little scary when I listen to some of my highly educated, otherwise highly intelligent liberal friends talk about Obama. 

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2014, 09:22:23 AM »
Sad but true.  The media would still support him.  He would still raise a ton of money.  Saul Alinsky's Rules would be in full force and effect. 

It is actually a little scary when I listen to some of my highly educated, otherwise highly intelligent liberal friends talk about Obama. 

They are not highly intelligent.  They may be educated in terms of a degree - but smart and intelligent they are not. 

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2014, 09:31:44 AM »
They are not highly intelligent.  They may be educated in terms of a degree - but smart and intelligent they are not. 

they are intelligent, with a broken moral compass and/or misguided ideology.


Repubs keep losing elections because they keep considering dems to be "dumb".   To say you've lost 4/6 of the last presidential elections (and won the other 2 by one contested close state), to a "DUMB" party sure doesn't reflect well on repubs.

Dems are misguided perhaps, and maybe they're morally bankrupt, but dumb?  No, sorry, they're really not.  They're BETTER at selling a message and getting votes.  They just are.  Their voter base is growing, and the repub voter base is dying, sadly.   With every new 55 year old voting dem because he wants to legally smoke pot, repubs have another 85 year old diehard conservative enter hospice care :(  It's sad, but it's what is happening.  Dems are aging and STAYING DEMS because of healthcare, social security and legalized weed, among other issues.  Gun control doesn't motivate like it used to.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2014, 09:35:18 AM »
They are not highly intelligent.  They may be educated in terms of a degree - but smart and intelligent they are not. 

Yes they are.  There are different reasons, including party loyalty, age, race, etc., but they are not stupid and unintelligent simply because they disagree with my view of the president. 

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2014, 09:38:37 AM »
Yes they are.  There are different reasons, including party loyalty, age, race, etc., but they are not stupid and unintelligent simply because they disagree with my view of the president. 

Obama's failures and disastrous presidency are no longer a matter of subjective opinion.  At this point only a die hard committed leftist or cult of Obama member supports this garbage and anyone of that group at this point can hardly be said to be intelligent IMHO

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2014, 09:38:59 AM »
Yes they are.  There are different reasons, including party loyalty, age, race, etc., but they are not stupid and unintelligent simply because they disagree with my view of the president.  

man, i had to pinch myself.  I've agreed with you on like 3 items already today lol.

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Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2014, 11:02:08 AM »
Obama's failures and disastrous presidency are no longer a matter of subjective opinion.  At this point only a die hard committed leftist or cult of Obama member supports this garbage and anyone of that group at this point can hardly be said to be intelligent IMHO

This. They are prob smart people, who know deep down the truth, but they prefer denial to admitting they were wrong, and acknowledging the fact that obama is a disgrace