Author Topic: Recent VID by Rich Piana on how BBer's are fucked over by the industry!  (Read 6980 times)

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2014, 08:44:10 PM »

i read on getbig that you bought some used jay cutler posing trunk back in the days Mike , how much you pay for those  ??? ???
He gave em to me!  (both being Boston boys and all)   ;)

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2014, 09:30:46 PM »
If Rich has any "balls" it's a cinch they're filled with oil.    Bodybuilding is not a sport and if it is indeed "dying" it's only because schmoes cannot reproduce.  Most bodybuilders are broke due to three (3)main reasons. 

They're stupid.

They're lazy.

There's only so many schmoes to go around.

But mostly because they are stupid and lazy.

And because peddling powders and tee's is not always very profitable.  There are exceptions to this, however, the market is already flooded.

Selling the real sups comes with it's own set of challenges..Just ask PJ, Dave P, Lee Thompson and the list goes on.

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I think a lot of people have a hard time realizing that the majority of people couldnt give a fuck about bodybuilding.




Lol at bodybuilding a "sport"


Its about as much of a sport as nascar.

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Meh. Pick another more popular spo.... er hobby/skill set if you don't like it.

Powerlifting, Strongman, Highland Games, Olympic lifting, most of Track and Field, and a ton of other sports get nothing and have to pay out of pocket or fund raise to pursue their passions too. Heck, the USOC stipend for the best lifters in the US is only a few hundred a month, and I doubt they have as lucrative schoming prospects.


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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2014, 11:21:43 PM »
Well, Olympic athletes quite often do, or at least those at or near the top of their game do.  Bodybuilders are not athletes.  Bill Pearl once called them "Physique Athletes".

I like Pearl but he was an idiot to even try to make such a claim.  It's far more likely that these great "assletes" get paid, not "under the table" but rather, "under the towel".

That's another classic and endless debate, but the -not so surprising- thing is that Rich is contradicting himself..


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I think a lot of people have a hard time realizing that the majority of people couldnt give a fuck about bodybuilding.
Lol at bodybuilding a "sport"


Its about as much of a sport as nascar.
Pretty much this, bodybuilding will always be seen as some weird subculture by the average joe on the street.
The supplement companies and even the show promoters have now realised they need something more acceptable to the public, hence the "Physique" catagory.
'Blown up beach balls' will be the final novelty act at Physique shows in the not too distant future.

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Bodybuilders should be glad that there are shows to begin with and any money opportunity.

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2014, 03:19:27 AM »
In 4014 Rich will be spoken of as we speak of Plato now.

 ;D ;D ;D

Rich is quite plato-nic when it comes to women - great muscle philosopher.
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Newly appointed "athletes" representative for bodybuilders ;)

You're way too sarcastic here for an Asian fella :D

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2014, 02:17:38 PM »
Dude where have u been at. The O has been at the New Orleans for the past several years.

2012 was in Vegas.

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2014, 02:41:41 PM »
2012 was in Vegas.
It's still in Las Vegas, he's saying they hold it at The Orleans Hotel and Casino, which is a dumpier place than Mandalay Bay.  It's not in the city of New Orleans.

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2014, 02:43:43 PM »
2012 was in Vegas.

Yes , the NEW ORLEANS HOTEL and Casion in Vegas stud

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Re: GREAT VID by Rich Piana on how bb's are fucked over by the industry!
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2014, 03:06:43 PM »
Why does this guy charge men to sit in the front seat of his car while he "allegedly" plays with his junk? WHY?

Because Amy Waz won't?


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Business is about profit

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Why is he saying this. Someone make him stop please.

Shut It Down!

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I think the IFBB Pros need to get proper representation (maybe even a union of sorts) in order to negotiate contracts with the promoters that would guarantee that each pro that competes at their shows gets a very small percentage of the overall profits (something that would suffice in covering room and travel fees).

I say very small percentage, because since Professional Bodybuilding is not in high demand (think an NFL Football game versus IFBB competition), you obviously can't expect the profits to compare to other events that would generate decent revenue. Because of the fact that these events typically bring about small crowds, that's why promoters can be as aggressive as they presently are. Renting out the venues, getting the staff to run the event and posting up the prize money can certainly run up a bill (In many ways, the supplement companies that use the competition venue for marketing purposes tend to put up a percentage of the purse that is granted at the end of the contests to the top competitors). Even so, if these events don't garner enough of a profit for the promoters, they'll ultimately find it to be a waste of time and not lucrative enough to justify having the show.

At the Olympia level, I think it's imperative that all competitors get a small cut of the overall fee of admission. It should at least cover hotel and travel fees. These are the top 15 guys in the "sport" of bodybuilding.

This union for professional bodybuilders can then serve to negotiate contracts between the individual IFBB pros and the supplement companies. I know a number of pros that get severely low-balled by supplement companies to do the exact type of work that other top-tier pros do. There should be an industry standard, that way no one feels as if they're slaving away for a few jars of protein and air fare to the various events as required by contract.

This same union can then work to get health insurance coverage for the IFBB pros that do this as a full-time endeavor. Enough IFBB pros work full time jobs aside from bodybuilding, so those gentlemen have the health insurance coverage taken care of.

It's a big task and whomever takes it upon themselves to establish this professional bodybuilder's Union can end up bringing about great changes to this industry and ultimately to the careers of those involved in professional bodybuilding, as well as figure and physique athletes.

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I think the IFBB Pros need to get proper representation (maybe even a union of sorts) in order to negotiate contracts with the promoters that would guarantee that each pro that competes at their shows gets a very small percentage of the overall profits (something that would suffice in covering room and travel fees).

I say very small percentage, because since Professional Bodybuilding is not in high demand (think an NFL Football game versus IFBB competition), you obviously can't expect the profits to compare to other events that would generate decent revenue. Because of the fact that these events typically bring about small crowds, that's why promoters can be as aggressive as they presently are. Renting out the venues, getting the staff to run the event and posting up the prize money can certainly run up a bill (In many ways, the supplement companies that use the competition venue for marketing purposes tend to put up a percentage of the purse that is granted at the end of the contests to the top competitors). Even so, if these events don't garner enough of a profit for the promoters, they'll ultimately find it to be a waste of time and not lucrative enough to justify having the show.

At the Olympia level, I think it's imperative that all competitors get a small cut of the overall fee of admission. It should at least cover hotel and travel fees. These are the top 15 guys in the "sport" of bodybuilding.

This union for professional bodybuilders can then serve to negotiate contracts between the individual IFBB pros and the supplement companies. I know a number of pros that get severely low-balled by supplement companies to do the exact type of work that other top-tier pros do. There should be an industry standard, that way no one feels as if they're slaving away for a few jars of protein and air fare to the various events as required by contract.

This same union can then work to get health insurance coverage for the IFBB pros that do this as a full-time endeavor. Enough IFBB pros work full time jobs aside from bodybuilding, so those gentlemen have the health insurance coverage taken care of.

It's a big task and whomever takes it upon themselves to establish this professional bodybuilder's Union can end up bringing about great changes to this industry and ultimately to the careers of those involved in professional bodybuilding, as well as figure and physique athletes.

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Why is this Elite professional MMA fighter Rich Piana talking about bodybuilding?

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The fact is the NPC and IFBB makes money off these bodybuilders, if you are going to pay money for the card there should be some perks with it discounts on food at supermarkets, resturants etc cause that is one of the biggest expense of bodybuilding, but they are paying all this money and receiving nothing.

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Sorry Rich you will once again get overlooked on the Manion's Christmas list.