Author Topic: Mike Matarazzo - Fighting For His Life (RIP 08/17/2014)  (Read 80558 times)

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #225 on: August 06, 2014, 11:18:03 AM »
Now that I think about it, I have met Mike, once. I was sitting in a folding chair at a table set up at the back of a hall in Pittsburgh where a contest was being held, and Matarazzo walked over to me and rudely told me it was his chair.

So there ya go.  >:(

It was at this competition that I also came upon King Tamali for the first time. The guy was a profusely sweating blob of goo, chatting up Jim Manion, and I asked my buddy who the human disaster was. "He's apparently some up-and-coming bodybuilder or something, " he replied. "Gets real bulky in the offseason."   

No shit.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #226 on: August 06, 2014, 11:18:41 AM »
This advice is terrible.  I take it you would be surprised to learn that whole eggs actually reduce small, dense LDL?  That is the LDL that is bad for you by the way.

The way to increase your bad LDL is to go overboard on carbs.

Sorry, what I posted should of been in quotes or at least cited. It is from an article I believe was published by the American Heart Association. So the advice wasn't mine. I eat eggs frequently, although not a dozen at a time like some folks claim to do.

In fact I don't follow their diet recommendation at all. I eat as I always have, which is to eat what I like and do it in moderation. Last night for example, I had a 6 oz. New York steak, baked potato with butter and fresh steam broccoli for dinner. I salted and peppered my dinner.

My total Cholesterol is on the high side, so is my HDL. I have taken a statin since I was 38 years old and was first diagnosed with high cholesterol. My doctor suggest a diet back then, which I followed for two weeks only to have my total cholesterol climb. Apparently, I was doing better on my own.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #227 on: August 06, 2014, 11:26:57 AM »
Prime is a old man who comes from a generation that unquestioningly believes in "easy to understand" government advice.

He's recommending statins in this thread so I don't think he actually knows what small LDL is , just that "cholesterol" is "bad"

I am old, you got that right. The rest you got wrong. That diet was not government advice. It was from the American Hearth Association, which makes it medical advice. I don't recommend statins; I take a statin. -Have done so for many more years then some of you have been alive. Doctor's recommend statins. I have kept a record of my total, HDL and LDL cholesterol numbers for decades. I probably have a better understanding of cholesterol than most people do.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #228 on: August 06, 2014, 11:37:39 AM »
i bet he blames the steriods as well for that constipation in the shitter this morning and not that baloney sandwich he had last night



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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #229 on: August 06, 2014, 11:42:24 AM »
Sorry, what I posted should of been in quotes or at least cited. It is from an article I believe was published by the American Heart Association. So the advice wasn't mine. I eat eggs frequently, although not a dozen at a time like some folks claim to do.

In fact I don't follow their diet recommendation at all. I eat as I always have, which is to eat what I like and do it in moderation. Last night for example, I had a 6 oz. New York steak, baked potato with butter and fresh steam broccoli for dinner. I salted and peppered my dinner.

My total Cholesterol is on the high side, so is my HDL. I have taken a statin since I was 38 years old and was first diagnosed with high cholesterol. My doctor suggest a diet back then, which I followed for two weeks only to have my total cholesterol climb. Apparently, I was doing better on my own.

Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins?  They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".

If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL.  Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.

If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin.  That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points. 


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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #230 on: August 06, 2014, 12:23:52 PM »
Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins?  They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".

If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL.  Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.

If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin.  That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points.  



I'd give up on this, he thinks he knows best because he has been told by "a doctor" and old people only listen to authority figures. That's why statins are a billion dollar business

He's wasted years doing the Right Thing, it's not like he'll read something like this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929871/ when he could have The Official Voice Of Health the AHA tell him a dumbed down "fat is bad" version of the science



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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #231 on: August 06, 2014, 03:42:16 PM »
Have you noticed any side effects that you could attribute to statins?  They are now widely perceived as being much worse than what they allegedly "cure".

If I was in your position I'd find a specialist who could run a test that would look at more than just straight HDL and LDL.  Lipoprotein is one that springs to mind, plus in the States you can have things like arterial compliance tests that I'd always go for.

If I had high "bad" LDL I'd try kyolic garlic before a statin.  That usually knocks the basic LDL reading down a good few points. 



Fortunately, I've had no side effects from taking statins thus far and I've taken them for decades. No muscle weakness or pain, no liver issues, no digestive problems, never got a rash, blood sugar is fine and my memory seems to be fine even though I am rapidly becoming ancient. I have complete blood work done at minimum twice a year. I've not had a arterial compliance test. However, because I have atrial fibrillation, I have had a couple of EKG's and echo cardiograms over years, one just last month. I take my blood pressure and pulse at least once daily. I believe my cardio vascular system is well monitored. I've had an irregular heartbeat since childhood.

I do take some over-the-counter supplements which are supposedly beneficial to hearth and vascular function. I take Slo-Niacin, CoQ10, Magnesium, low-dose aspirin and drink a glass of V-8 to insure I get a good dose of potassium daily. Recently, I started taking a beta blocker to help with atrial fibrillation.

As you can probably tell, I try to stay on top of my health. If I were willing to get more serious about diet and exercise, that would probably be a benefit too. But sometimes quality of life and just enjoying oneself has to be part of the equation too. Because I am on HRT, I have blood work done for my urologist as well. About once a year, he wants a full panel. If anything, my doctors and I may be overly cautious with regards to my heart health. But hey, I never had a heart attack and don't want one either.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #232 on: August 06, 2014, 03:55:19 PM »
I'd give up on this, he thinks he knows best because he has been told by "a doctor" and old people only listen to authority figures. That's why statins are a billion dollar business

He's wasted years doing the Right Thing, it's not like he'll read something like this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929871/ when he could have The Official Voice Of Health the AHA tell him a dumbed down "fat is bad" version of the science




Actually it has been several doctors over many decades.

Some would say young people listen to no one but themselves because they think they know it all, but I won't go that far.

As for wasting years, what have I lost? I am much healthier then many people half my age. I am active and lead a rich life. I am not lying in a hospital bed hoping not to die of heart failure. Mawse, you are probably like many people who look for alternative answers for their health issues. I wish you the best. Beware of charlatans though, there is always someone who claims to have a better answer, usually at a price.

I read the article you linked. It is interesting. If statins weren't working well for me, I might be looking at other options. Fortunately, what I have been doing health wise for the past 40 years seems to have been successful. It is hard to argue with success. 

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #233 on: August 06, 2014, 05:32:29 PM »
If he has genuine remorse then he has a chance.

Oh fuck off.

Repenting doesn't do shit.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #234 on: August 07, 2014, 08:52:32 AM »
Oh fuck off.

Repenting doesn't do shit.

You simple minded dolt.  If he has remorse then perhaps he will never make the same mistake again. Simple but then so are you.  Let me help you.  Words and phrases can have different meanings and quite often the context in which they're used "hints" at this.  Most adults know this and use it to their advantage, but you?  Noooooo. You think because of my faith (which if it ever fails me entirely I would not want to be you because you're such a moronic philistine and therefor cannot even figure out how not to hurl yourself off the cliff of your stupidity) you jump to your favorite conclusion and choose to hazard a guess at what I meant.

Learn anything idiot?  Probably not and we will relive this moment again and again.  I suppose it's all my fault for not learning to speak/write the language of the illiterate.

Learn anything yet Simple Jack or will you return to the ignorance that you vomited out and is now quoted above to remind you. 

Go intercourse yourself, little man.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #235 on: August 07, 2014, 09:28:08 AM »
Yeah but mike today would give all that up to live the rest of his life healthy and peacefully

Do you think Dale Earnhardt wishes he never got in a race car?

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #236 on: August 07, 2014, 11:43:38 AM »
maybe he got sick from having his head placed in a men's Urinal by harry tasker when filming true lies

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #237 on: August 07, 2014, 02:15:32 PM »
mike has always been a fine gent!

a great showman on stage too!


wishing him all the best.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #238 on: August 07, 2014, 04:36:51 PM »
I guess statins are the "devil now"  ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700

Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #239 on: August 07, 2014, 04:56:14 PM »
I guess statins are the "devil now"  ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700

Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's


Be careful or Mawse will be calling you old and retarded.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #240 on: August 07, 2014, 04:57:48 PM »
Fuck him  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #241 on: August 07, 2014, 05:06:40 PM »
http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/statin-guidelines-may-greatly-increase-use/

13 million more prescribed because of the new guidelines. I understand if you are skeptical. As a physician I am too. However, after reading the literature and reading the ciruculation article where they came by their reasons to advocate more statin use, I am a believer. Look, if you have perfect genetics and no risk factors then good on you. However, in the good old USA there are over 60 million Americans with HTN.

http://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fs_bloodpressure.htm

A large percent are afflicted with diabetes.

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/

Over 20 million Americans have chronic kidney disease.

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/kustats/#4

Imagine the number of individuals affected by all three. Thus, aggressively treating lipids is an effective means to reduce cardiovascular mortality. Are there better studies than the traditional cholesterol guidelines. Sure, test like the VAP are available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_auto_profile

Regardless, even if you look at LDL particle size and Apolipoprotein B levels, more statins are going to be indicated.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #242 on: August 07, 2014, 05:28:56 PM »
The lipid hypothesis really is the goose that lays golden eggs.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #243 on: August 07, 2014, 05:38:38 PM »
The lipid hypothesis really is the goose that lays golden eggs.

No doubt it is lucrative. However, a lot of very well established statins are now generic like simvastatin, pravastatin, lovastatin, and atorvastatin to name a few. There are still brand name statins like Crestor and Livalo that make millions / billions for pharma, but there are a lot of reasonable agents out there even for the indigent.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #244 on: August 07, 2014, 06:20:58 PM »
No doubt it is lucrative. However, a lot of very well established statins are now generic like simvastatin, pravastatin, lovastatin, and atorvastatin to name a few. There are still brand name statins like Crestor and Livalo that make millions / billions for pharma, but there are a lot of reasonable agents out there even for the indigent.

My doctor prescribes me Simvastatin. It is so inexpensive, that it cost less then my $7.00 co-pay to fill it.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #245 on: August 07, 2014, 06:43:23 PM »
You simple minded dolt.  If he has remorse then perhaps he will never make the same mistake again. Simple but then so are you.  Let me help you.  Words and phrases can have different meanings and quite often the context in which they're used "hints" at this.  Most adults know this and use it to their advantage, but you?  Noooooo. You think because of my faith (which if it ever fails me entirely I would not want to be you because you're such a moronic philistine and therefor cannot even figure out how not to hurl yourself off the cliff of your stupidity) you jump to your favorite conclusion and choose to hazard a guess at what I meant.

Learn anything idiot?  Probably not and we will relive this moment again and again.  I suppose it's all my fault for not learning to speak/write the language of the illiterate.

Learn anything yet Simple Jack or will you return to the ignorance that you vomited out and is now quoted above to remind you. 

Go intercourse yourself, little man.


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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #246 on: August 07, 2014, 06:53:27 PM »

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #247 on: August 07, 2014, 06:59:40 PM »
I guess statins are the "devil now"  ::) ::) ::). If one would bother to read, the AHA and the many vascular experts in the field have release new guidelines that actually call for an increased administration of statins. It should be noted that for those pt's with diabetes, a cardiovascular risk factor of more than 7.5% at ten years, prior CAD, or an LDL-C greater than 190.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437738.63853.7a.full.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17284700

Thus, if you can tolerate statins and monitor LFT's, moderate alcohol, for GETBIGGERS avoid anabolics, and live cleanly they will ultimately benefit you. I tend to trust published literature and the recommendations of the world top-most experts vs MAWSE and other GB's

Have you used Statins at all ?
They destroy your memory , I've been on them on two occasions and both times I was in a mind fog and memory was shocking.

Stopped taking them and went away - I've read and researched a bit and for alot of people they give dementia like sides.

Quite Bizarre that I approach my Doctor with this and he say's it's not the Statins yet I provide him with endless documentation
that it is , even work done and written by other Doctors on these sides yet because the Pharma companies tell him , no no they are
ok then he listens to them.

I told him Tamox(nolva) is a drug known to elevate good cholesterol after him telling me there is no known other drugs to raise good cholesterol
and he basically told me Rubbish even though my bloods proved that nolva put my good cholesterol up.

I think they are dangerous and long term (as in the future) serious issues will  start to show - they haven't been in use long enough to say there are
no long term problems.

I've sacked my Doctor also and now use one that is more open and explores different avenues to treat symptoms
 

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #248 on: August 08, 2014, 06:53:51 AM »
Have you used Statins at all ?
They destroy your memory , I've been on them on two occasions and both times I was in a mind fog and memory was shocking.

Stopped taking them and went away - I've read and researched a bit and for alot of people they give dementia like sides.

Quite Bizarre that I approach my Doctor with this and he say's it's not the Statins yet I provide him with endless documentation
that it is , even work done and written by other Doctors on these sides yet because the Pharma companies tell him , no no they are
ok then he listens to them.

I told him Tamox(nolva) is a drug known to elevate good cholesterol after him telling me there is no known other drugs to raise good cholesterol
and he basically told me Rubbish even though my bloods proved that nolva put my good cholesterol up.

I think they are dangerous and long term (as in the future) serious issues will  start to show - they haven't been in use long enough to say there are
no long term problems.

I've sacked my Doctor also and now use one that is more open and explores different avenues to treat symptoms
 

Will I am on a statin as I am 44 and my pops gave me bad genes. My HDL is over 60, which is good, but my LDL is sky high. After starting lipitor (atorvastatin), my LDL is under 90. Now, I did have myositis symptoms with Vytorin (combo of simvastatin and zetia). I can't attest to memory loss, but I agree that there are so many side effects of these and every agent that it is indeed possible. It is just not a common ailment; thus, your doc is not being quite disingenuous, but he is not looking at the individual who may have an unusual reaction. As for Tamox, are you speaking of Tamoxifen??? This an anti-estrogen medication with innumerable side effects. TBH, you are better off with a statin. I assume if you are taking Tamoxifen you are on anabolics. Why don't you do a little research on anabolic steroids and their side effects. What I discern is as long as the drug you are taking is working for your physical appearance, side effects be damned. Statins are considerably well researched and for the vast majority of people very safe.

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Re: Mike Matarazzo Fighting For His Life
« Reply #249 on: August 08, 2014, 06:58:01 AM »
BTW niacin is well known to raise HDL, but it too has innumerable side effects.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/in-depth/niacin/art-20046208

The best natural agents I have seen to raise good cholesterol and lower bad are diet, exercise, weight loss, oatmeal, and maybe red yeast rice. Funny about red yeast rice is the original product had lovastatin in it.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/red-yeast-rice-and-cholesterol/