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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2014, 04:27:53 AM »

He dropped food to Christians stranded in the mountains by ISIS and authorized Airstrikes against them.  




Any problems with that???

Right.   ::)  Funny thing, that he couldn't air strike ISIS while they were travelling from town to town butchering people.   If only they had some jets, drones, or satellites to track these guys while they travelled in a convoy miles long on main roads.   Maybe, it's because they armed these maniacs in Syria in the first place and they're the ones running them so they can now try topple the guy in power in Iraq because he's not being the puppet they wanted.  

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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2014, 04:29:48 AM »
Obama was just on TV talking about the situation in Iraq, he's fucking clueless lying.

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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2014, 05:00:07 AM »
The surge was only supposed to be temporary, but the point is it worked.  The country was stable.  We were done nation building.  They had a government in place.  They needed our security assistance.  Packing up and going home was a terrible thing to do. 

that's the problem everything we did over there was going to be temporary,from the surge to nation building.you can't go in and decide what a country wants, they have to do that for themselves.let me guess you also believed this was all going to be paid for with oil money  :D how did that turn out for you  :D :D

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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2014, 06:32:46 AM »
Other than the fact the only reason he had to do a food drop and authorize strikes is because of his massive failure in Iraq?  No. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2014, 06:35:28 AM »
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He was warned numerous times about not leaving a small residuary force in Iraq that something like Isis was going to take over and he ignored said warning for political reasons.  He inhereited a STABLE Iraq as he himself campaigned on - but not due to his radicalism and incompetence - like everything else he ever goes near - it turns to absolute garbage. 

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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2014, 06:39:33 AM »
He was warned numerous times about not leaving a small residuary force in Iraq that something like Isis was going to take over and he ignored said warning for political reasons.  He inhereited a STABLE Iraq as he himself campaigned on - but not due to his radicalism and incompetence - like everything else he ever goes near - it turns to absolute garbage. 

we had a couple hundred thousand troops there, that's your idea of a STABLE Iraq brahahahhahaha

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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2014, 06:43:46 AM »
we had a couple hundred thousand troops there, that's your idea of a STABLE Iraq brahahahhahaha

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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2014, 06:45:25 AM »
Other than the fact the only reason he had to do a food drop and authorize strikes is because of his massive failure in Iraq?  No. 


Iraq is a failure because we went over there and destabilized the government  and its militaryfor no reason.  Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.


Regardless as to who the President is, we'll be dealing with this shit for another decade at least
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2014, 06:47:18 AM »

Iraq is a failure because we went over there and destabilized the government  and its militaryfor no reason.  Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.


Regardless as to who the President is, we'll be dealing with this shit for another decade at least

hey hey how dare you say that,fox didn't report that ;D

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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2014, 06:54:41 AM »
hey hey how dare you say that,fox didn't report that ;D


Chuckle....Iraq was stable when Saddam was running things.  Now you see why Uday was forcing some of those guys to kick a cement soccer ball around.  Shit stayed in check because Saddam didn't fuck around with people and chopped heads off. 

Since then, Iraq has not been stable..even after the surge.  That's what happens when you let the inmates run free.  The Iraqi people need to grow some balls, go down the road and start chopping heads off and gutting them like cattle.  Once they do that, it will get stable
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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2014, 07:01:48 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2014, 07:02:52 AM »
Obama was just on TV talking about the situation in Iraq, he's fucking clueless.


You are an Islamist kneepadder Kazan.

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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2014, 07:04:37 AM »
that's the problem everything we did over there was going to be temporary,from the surge to nation building.you can't go in and decide what a country wants, they have to do that for themselves.let me guess you also believed this was all going to be paid for with oil money  :D how did that turn out for you  :D :D

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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2014, 07:06:17 AM »
Looks the same to me.  And it wasn't my idea or comparison.  Heard senior military folks talk about it, and they recommended it.  I agree with them. 

And unfortunately, they were right.  One division, or even a brigade or two could have prevented what is happening now.  The failure to leave troops in place, as we did in Germany and South Korea, resulted in the current situation, which as one old vet told me looks pretty similar to what happened in Vietnam. 


Ahhahahaa you really live in a fantasy world BB

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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2014, 07:13:07 AM »
LMFAO




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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2014, 09:28:34 AM »
It didn't work long term.   Iraq is destabilising. 

lol.  What??  Iraq is destabilizing because we pulled all our troops out against the advice of military leaders?  Go figure . . .  lol

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« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2014, 09:29:25 AM »
It "worked" largely because we gave the Sunni militias their guns back after the retards in charge disarmed the Baathists and caused the original problems in Iraq

I think this week the Sunni militias are the Bad Guys but it's getting hard to keep up.

We certainly get in bed with the devil on a regular basis.   :-\

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« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2014, 09:30:16 AM »
that's the problem everything we did over there was going to be temporary,from the surge to nation building.you can't go in and decide what a country wants, they have to do that for themselves.let me guess you also believed this was all going to be paid for with oil money  :D how did that turn out for you  :D :D

It should have been paid for with oil money.  Too bad it wasn't. 

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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2014, 09:31:03 AM »
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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2014, 09:32:46 AM »

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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2014, 12:27:38 PM »
As an aside, ...it wasn't the troop surge that did it, ...it was the cash injection.
They began bribing   paying the various combatant groups to stop fighting each other, or kicking USA tush.
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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2014, 01:43:18 PM »

You are an Islamist kneepadder Kazan.

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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2014, 01:45:05 PM »
As an aside, ...it wasn't the troop surge that did it, ...it was the cash injection.
They began bribing   paying the various combatant groups to stop fighting each other, or kicking USA tush.

Kicking US tush, what the fuck are you yapping about? The canadian loony  is back  ::)
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Re: WTF Barrack?
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2014, 01:58:27 PM »
Other than the fact the only reason he had to do a food drop and authorize strikes is because of his massive failure in Iraq?  No. 

HIS massive failure in Iraq?  lol, it's been a clusterfck since day one.  Yes, there are going to be some uprisings.  Yes, he followed the bush SOFA plan, didn't he? 

if anything, i'm suprised we haven't had to do MORE of these interventions into this lawless ass country.

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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2014, 02:06:41 PM »
Kicking US tush, what the fuck are you yapping about? The canadian loony  is back  ::)

Even a stopped brain can be right twice a day, the surge coincided with the adoption of the strategy of bribing mullahs and militias (in Afghanistan they buy them Viagra) to stop attacking US troops. Pre 'surge' the casualties were getting so high even the MSM couldn't keep pretending nothing was happening.

If the idiots in charge hadn't disarmed and disenfranchised the Baathists after 'mission accomplished' then there wouldn't have been an insurgency in the first place.

If we didn't need to rub our collective Freedom cocks in the faces of the world we should have just kept Saddam in the first place, China does GREAT by bribing local dictators and militias and their people don't GAF about the locals getting repressed in shithole 3rd world countries as long as China keeps making bank