Author Topic: Ferguson - Rioting for Michael Brown - Discussion (Read 220879 times)

Archer77 · « **Reply #1525 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:05:57 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 04:01:16 PM

well you've taken on a hard assignment. disproving the report. It's gonna take a bit more effort than what you've produced so far but good luck with it.

I think I may turn my attention to the civil case against the officer. Lots of juicy material there to dredge up!

There is no amount of evidence that will convince you of anything other than what you want to believe. You mind was made up before the report was even released. Believing there is racism is part of your ideological bias. Do you still think ideology is a neutral concept? How can a person believe that? I'm confounded by your admission.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1526 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:23:18 PM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 05, 2015, 04:05:57 PM

There is no amount of evidence that will convince you of anything other than what you want to believe. You mind was made up before the report was even released. Believing there is racism is part of your ideological bias. Do you still think ideology is a neutral concept? How can a person believe that? I'm confounded by your admission.

Are cell phones evil? Yes? No?

The question is too general to be meaningful. Same thing.

hope this helps.

Archer77 · « **Reply #1527 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:29:34 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 04:23:18 PM

Are cell phones evil? Yes? No?

The question is too general to be meaningful. Same thing.

hope this helps.

Do you think ideology is a neutral concept? Yes or no? If you think that no one can help. Wow.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1528 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:00:05 PM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 05, 2015, 04:29:34 PM

Do you think ideology is a neutral concept? Yes or no? If you think that no one can help. Wow.

Thanks for providing an opportunity to clarify the facts surrounding this matter.

Perhaps you should look into what the mayor or the chief of police is doing right now.

eerily silent over there

Archer77 · « **Reply #1529 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:05:55 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:00:05 PM

Thanks for providing an opportunity to clarify the facts surrounding this matter.

Perhaps you should look into what the mayor or the chief of police is doing right now.

eerily silent over there

Still think ideology is a neutral concept? Hahaha.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1530 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:14:39 PM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 05, 2015, 05:05:55 PM

Still think ideology is a neutral concept? Hahaha.

haha how do you feel about William F Buckley?

Archer77 · « **Reply #1531 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:15:57 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:14:39 PM

haha how do you feel about William F Buckley?

How do you feel about ideology being a neutral concept? Oh wait, I know the answer. Haha

Erik C · « **Reply #1532 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:25:35 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:05:48 AM

these emails may not impress getbiggers but the consequences are very serious from a legal perspective.

The emails are protected speech under the First Amendment. You may not like what they say, however they do have the right to say it.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1533 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 05, 2015, 05:15:57 PM

How do you feel about ideology being a neutral concept? Oh wait, I know the answer. Haha

Buckley worked for the agency

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1534 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:31:15 PM »

Quote from: Erik C on March 05, 2015, 05:25:35 PM

The emails are protected speech under the First Amendment. You may not like what they say, however they do have the right to say it.

hehe yes agreed but this is not a matter of my opinion.

The justice department collected them as evidence of illegal activity.

Erik C · « **Reply #1535 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:39:10 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:31:15 PM

hehe yes agreed but this is not a matter of my opinion.

The justice department collected them as evidence of illegal activity.

It isn't an illegal activity. Freedom of expression is a Sacred Right, in The United States Of America.

Archer77 · « **Reply #1536 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:40:24 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:28:39 PM

Buckley worked for the agency

Is ideology a neutral concept?

Quote from: Erik C on March 05, 2015, 05:25:35 PM

The emails are protected speech under the First Amendment. You may not like what they say, however they do have the right to say it.

And it says nothing. The emails could be considered a kind of ideology therefore to remain consistant brainiac mr. turbob has to concede the emails are conceptually neutral.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1537 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:42:37 PM »

Quote from: Erik C on March 05, 2015, 05:39:10 PM

It isn't an illegal activity. Freedom of expression is a Sacred Right, in The United States Of America.

tell lex to shoot me a PM bro

Erik C · « **Reply #1538 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:48:55 PM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 05, 2015, 05:42:37 PM

tell lex to shoot me a PM bro

What does that mean? You don't believe that people, here in the USA, have a Constitution right to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of the press?

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1539 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:57:45 PM »

Quote from: Erik C on March 05, 2015, 05:48:55 PM

What does that mean? You don't believe that people, here in the USA, have a Constitution right to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of the press?

great admirer of your work keep it coming

Archer77 · « **Reply #1540 on:** March 05, 2015, 05:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Erik C on March 05, 2015, 05:48:55 PM

What does that mean? You don't believe that people, here in the USA, have a Constitution right to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of the press?

He's sputtering out and has nothing left to say. He's writing nonsense so he can exit the thread.

The Ugly · « **Reply #1541 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:54:05 PM »

This is sorta related:

When Ferguson blew up, a FB friend posted an article about black on black crime being overlooked and whatnot, mostly to drum up traffic for a news site he runs. So he and I end up going back and forth with some nutty black friend of his, who dismissed the points and statistics he'd posted, holding white racists exclusively responsible for all black problems: poverty, crime, drugs, unemployment, education, shitty parents, cop shootings (obviously) - everything, all on Whitey. The article he posted, she said, was just to distract everyone from the real problem.

So, she gets murdered today. Anyone care to guess?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Woman-Found-Shot-Dead-in-San-Gabriel-Valley-Detectives-Investigating-295206871.html#

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1542 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:26:28 AM »

straight from the report:

... a woman called FPD to report a domestic disturbance. By the time the police arrived, the woman’s boyfriend had left. The police looked through the house and saw indications that the boyfriend lived there. When the woman told police that only she and her brother were listed on the home’s occupancy permit, the officer placed the woman under arrest for the permit violation and she was jailed. In another instance, after a woman called police to report a domestic disturbance and was given a summons for an occupancy permit violation, she said, according to the officer’s report, that she “hated the Ferguson Police Department and will never call again, even if she is being killed.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/ferguson-as-a-criminal-conspiracy-against-its-black-residents-michael-brown-department-of-justice-report/386887/

Archer77 · « **Reply #1543 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:30:43 AM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 06, 2015, 05:26:28 AM

straight from the report:

... a woman called FPD to report a domestic disturbance. By the time the police arrived, the woman’s boyfriend had left. The police looked through the house and saw indications that the boyfriend lived there. When the woman told police that only she and her brother were listed on the home’s occupancy permit, the officer placed the woman under arrest for the permit violation and she was jailed. In another instance, after a woman called police to report a domestic disturbance and was given a summons for an occupancy permit violation, she said, according to the officer’s report, that she “hated the Ferguson Police Department and will never call again, even if she is being killed.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/ferguson-as-a-criminal-conspiracy-against-its-black-residents-michael-brown-department-of-justice-report/386887/

Is ideology a neutral concept?

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1544 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:35:56 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 06, 2015, 05:30:43 AM

Is ideology a neutral concept?

not a controversial position.

sorry that you remain upset at this but not sure how to assist.

Archer77 · « **Reply #1545 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:40:40 AM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 06, 2015, 05:35:56 AM

not a controversial position.

sorry that you remain upset at this but not sure how to assist.

I'm not upset. I'm shocked someone could be so naively stupid. Saying ideology is a neutral concept is one of the dumbest comments ever posted on getbig. It's tbombz level dumb.

LittleJ · « **Reply #1546 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:45:33 AM »

He hates people of color.

Archer77 · « **Reply #1547 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:49:08 AM »

Quote from: LittleJ on March 06, 2015, 05:45:33 AM

He hates people of color.

What a shock, cry baby rears his head to whine about racism. You're as predictable as high black crime rates.

mr.turbo · « **Reply #1548 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:51:00 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 06, 2015, 05:40:40 AM

I'm not upset. I'm shocked someone could be so naively stupid. Saying ideology is a neutral concept is one of the dumbest comments ever posted on getbig. It's tbombz level dumb.

I assume you have a personal definition of this word that differs from how everyone else uses it.

please refrain from any further baseless attacks!

Archer77 · « **Reply #1549 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:55:08 AM »

Quote from: mr.turbo on March 06, 2015, 05:51:00 AM

I assume you have a personal definition of this word that differs from how everyone else uses it.

please refrain from any further baseless attacks!

Calling someone who thinks ideology is a neutral concept naive and stupid is far from baseless. No one in there right mind would argue ideology is neutral. What a dunce.