Ferguson - Rioting for Michael Brown - Discussion

[Pneumothorax]

CNN reported no charges will be filed against the driver.

Driver was in fear for life.  What else you gonna do, let the nigs bash your car apart drag you out and turn you into a worldstar video?

[Erik C]

The Grand Jury heard testimony from all witnesses. However they seem to have given greater credence to the witnesses, all black people, who didn't go to the media prior to testifying, because their testimony agreed completely with officer Wilson's testimony. They were afraid for their lives, and those of their families, if they told the truth publicly, but in the anonymous Grand Jury testimony, they could tell the truth safely, without being attacked by the animals that infest their neighborhood. That, and the fact that some of the lying "witnesses," decided to recant their previous lies about what happened, when they realized that perjury, could get them a long jail sentence, proved to the Grand Jury that officer Wilson told the truth, and Michael Brown was the criminal that everyone in the hood knew that he was.

[Rami]

Option B. Stop the car, get dragged onto the street and get bludgeoned to death.

lol, hope that was worth it while she sits in jail for a few years

[Archer77]

Option D. Stop the car, get dragged onto the street and get bludgeoned to death.

fixed

[mr.turbo]

Despite a 3-month long investigation, interviews of 60 witnesses, and the examination of every piece of physical and forensic evidence, some people like mr.turbo still want to believe a narrative that supports their pre-conceived (and incorrect) views.


Some of the images presented as evidence to the St. Louis County grand jury, including Officer Darren Wilson's gun, broken glass from his official vehicle and Michael Brown's hat.


The "conflicting" part in the URL refers to multiple (black) "witnesses" that lied about what happened
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/ferguson-grand-jury-weighed-mass-of-evidence-much-of-it-conflicting.html

Presenting a mountain of conflicting evidence just creates confusion. A deliberate choice made by the prosecutor.

have a look at this:

[Archer77]

Presenting a mountain of conflicting evidence just creates confusion. A deliberate choice made by the prosecutor.

have a look at this:

All been covered.  You're as out of date and 240

[Pneumothorax]

Presenting a mountain of conflicting evidence just creates confusion. A deliberate choice made by the prosecutor.

have a look at this:

How the fuck did he end up face down facing the cop and shot in the face. Your telling me he got shot 4 times from the back and then decided to stop and turn around only to get shot in the face and fall over dead?  Come on man, if you were getting shot at would you stop and turn around after you got hit 4 times?

[Schnauzer]

Presenting a mountain of conflicting evidence just creates confusion. A deliberate choice made by the prosecutor.

have a look at this:

The grand jury examined the autopsy reports and interviewed the witnesses. I'm sure they were aware of the information on the chart you found on google.

[mr.turbo]

How the fuck did he end up face down facing the cop and shot in the face. Your telling me he got shot 4 times from the back and then decided to stop and turn around only to get shot in the face and fall over dead?  Come on man, if you were getting shot at would you stop and turn around after you got hit 4 times?

it's not my opinion.  just pointing out that the autopsy is consistent with the witness reports

[Pneumothorax]

it's not my opinion.  just pointing out that the autopsy is consistent with the witness reports

I'm just asking you to use your common sense, which is what the grand jury was asked to do after they heard all the testimony, witness reports and saw the evidence. 

[Option D]

fixed

Wow bro... all that?

lol you got issues with Teh Option i see...

well hope you get that checked out broski...

[The Ugly]

240 is Back finally widely known to be an Obamabot (paid spammer), who is PAID for posting pro liberal propaganda on the internet forums.

Aha!

[BB]

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Burnt Prius is kinda pretty. A monument to urban savagery.

[mr.turbo]

I'm just asking you to use your common sense, which is what the grand jury was asked to do after they heard all the testimony, witness reports and saw the evidence. 

how do you apply common sense to 2000 pages of conflicting evidence?  It's not so simple, it requires a bit editing and analysis.

[Schnauzer]

how do you apply common sense to 2000 pages of conflicting evidence?  It's not so simple, it requires a bit editing and analysis.

The only conflicting part of the evidence was the testimony from black "witnesses" that was blatantly false. All the forensic and physical evidence was quite clear.

From the grand jury testimony:

“Yes, I personally saw him on his knees with his hands in the air,” one witness said in a recorded interview with federal officials that was played for the grand jury before he testified. The prosecutor questioning that witness did not hide her skepticism, highlighting the contradictions in his various accounts.

“Basically just about everything that you said on Aug. 13, and much of what you said today, isn’t consistent with the physical evidence that we have in this case, O.K.?” she said to him.

Several witnesses were asked if they felt any pressure to conform to a certain story line, or if they felt fearful about their recollections differing from the popular narrative in the streets. Some did acknowledge such fears, while others were shown to have delivered wholly unreliable accounts.

Forensic evidence was also presented that supported Officer Wilson’s statement that Mr. Brown was moving toward him after the first volley of bullets.

The medical examiner described the succession of bullet wounds to the chest and face that, in his view, would not have immediately incapacitated Mr. Brown. The prosecutors repeatedly questioned the doctor about this, driving home that Mr. Brown could have still been mobile (and dangerous) after the initial gunshot wounds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/ferguson-grand-jury-weighed-mass-of-evidence-much-of-it-conflicting.html  

[Archer77]

Wow bro... all that?

lol you got issues with Teh Option i see...

well hope you get that checked out broski...

No, buddy.  An opportunity presented itself and I took.

[mr.turbo]

The only conflicting part of the evidence was the testimony from black "witnesses" that was blatantly false. All the forensic and physical evidence was quite clear.

From the grand jury testimony:

“Yes, I personally saw him on his knees with his hands in the air,” one witness said in a recorded interview with federal officials that was played for the grand jury before he testified. The prosecutor questioning that witness did not hide her skepticism, highlighting the contradictions in his various accounts.

“Basically just about everything that you said on Aug. 13, and much of what you said today, isn’t consistent with the physical evidence that we have in this case, O.K.?” she said to him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/ferguson-grand-jury-weighed-mass-of-evidence-much-of-it-conflicting.html  

the claim that all the shots were from the proven to be from the front ... if the prosecutors are really claiming that .. is FALSE 

the official report indicates the grazed bicep shot has an indeterminate direction.

can't imagine they would make that claim.

[Hulkotron]

Maybe there was a second gunman.

[Schnauzer]

the claim that all the shots were from the proven to be from the front ... if the prosecutors are really claiming that .. is FALSE  

the official report indicates the grazed bicep shot has an indeterminate direction.

can't imagine they would make that claim.

Well, I guess the grand jury should have called you as a witness. Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri at the family’s request to conduct an autopsy, disagrees with you.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.  

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html  

[BB]

Maybe there was a second gunman.

Some of the area around the scene looking a bit grassy and knollish....

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[Archer77]

Some of the area around the scene looking a bit grassy and knollish....

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He committed two of the greatest ghetto sins.  He didn't pull his pants up and he did loot.  God spoke.

[The Ugly]

Well, I guess the grand jury should have called you as a witness. Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri at the family’s request to conduct an autopsy, disagrees with you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html  

I just think it's funny the family needed the TV guy to do the autopsy. Like they'll only trust some semi-celeb from the dummy box.

[Pneumothorax]

[Nails]

Some of the area around the scene looking a bit grassy and knollish....

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A second shooter 

[Schnauzer]

I just think it's funny the family needed the TV guy to do the autopsy. Like they'll only trust some semi-celeb from the dummy box.

You think it's funny that the family wanted a board-certified forensic pathologist that has been doing autopsies since 1960?

Professional career[edit]

Baden was the chief medical examiner for the City of New York from 1978 to 1979.

He has been a consulting/lead pathologist and an expert witness on a number of high-profile cases and investigations including:[2][5]

Chairman of the forensic pathology panel of the House Select Committee on Assassinations that reinvestigated the John F. Kennedy assassination.
Giving testimony at the trial of O.J. Simpson.
Investigating the remains of Czar Nicholas II and family members.[2]
Sid Vicious’s death.
Claus von Bülow’ criminal trial.
John Belushi’s death.
Lisa McPherson’s death.[6]
As a defense witness in Phil Spector’s murder trial. He was reportedly paid $250,000.[7] Baden's wife was legal co-counsel for Spector at the time.[4]
Richard Kuklinski’s death.
Kathleen Savio’s death.
Sergeant Evan Vela’s court martial.[8]
Gathering evidence against Byron De La Beckwith, who was facing his third trial for murder in the death of Medgar Evers. De La Beckwith was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment.
Conducted autopsy of Michael Brown.[9]

Baden maintains a private forensic pathology consulting practice and is co-director of the New York State Police Medicolegal Investigation Unit.