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German police fire 85 bullets total
« on: August 20, 2014, 12:25:11 PM »
German Police fire 85 bullets total


Meanwhile Incompetent & Improperly Trained Militarized Cops kill another man in Missouri

Rather than de-escalate situations using mental health professionals, police ALWAYS doubled down on their high-pressure tactics and militarized response.

This is Probably Why Cops Beat & Kill the Mentally Disabled



While German Police Fired 85 Bullets All Year, US Police Use 90 on 1 Person:





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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 12:31:09 PM »
Mods, feel free to merge this thread with the thread about Iceland grieving, if Roger has no objections.
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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 12:34:09 PM »
Yeah.....u know what a 9mm does to a leg...nothing. If you shoot, you shoot to kill period. If you want to go non lethal based on the situation, its a different argument. Taser, sting balls..whatever...but no warning shots. Plus comparing America with 350 Million people and Germany or even Iceland..come on.
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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 12:53:43 PM »
Germany is one quarter the size of the US and is still mostly one (very high quality)race and culture, and doesnt have entire towns and ghettos filled with millions of blacks and latin americans.

These comparisons are silly

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 12:57:20 PM »
Yeah.....u know what a 9mm does to a leg...nothing. If you shoot, you shoot to kill period. If you want to go non lethal based on the situation, its a different argument. Taser, sting balls..whatever...but no warning shots. Plus comparing America with 350 Million people and Germany or even Iceland..come on.

As you well know, warning shots are always fired at CENTER OF MASS!!

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 01:06:51 PM »
German Police fire 85 bullets total


Meanwhile Incompetent & Improperly Trained Militarized Cops kill another man in Missouri

Rather than de-escalate situations using mental health professionals, police ALWAYS doubled down on their high-pressure tactics and militarized response.

This is Probably Why Cops Beat & Kill the Mentally Disabled



While German Police Fired 85 Bullets All Year, US Police Use 90 on 1 Person:








A sane person would take from this--don't charge cops wielding weapons or you'll get shot.  

But that's none of my business

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 09:47:18 AM »

A sane person would take from this--don't charge cops wielding weapons or you'll get shot.  

But that's none of my business

Exactly. Unfortunately the Leftist mentality does not factor in common sense or clear evidence when pushing their silly narratives.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 10:54:16 AM »
Not sure what militarized response you are speaking of.

Militarized would be M4s and MRAPs... Not cops carrying a 9mm or a .45ACP.

Where is your militarized connection?


Guns are guns to them. They havent the slightest clue about anything on the subject, yet they feel like they can lecture other about it.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »
I'm confused, is the cop supposed to risk his own life "shooting to wound" or whatever fantasy scenario Canadians who've never fired a handgun think is normal?

Perhaps the obese german cop should spend less time at the bar and more time at the range so he doesn't miss the centre mass next time a maniac with a weapon charges him.

I'm also confused as to why we're supposed to want to keep someone who attacks other people with a knife alive  ???

Also, since you obviously have less than no clue, two officers firing 12 rounds between them is actually very conservative to stop a charging , armed target. 9mm doesn't have much stopping power so they need to put multiple rounds into them

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 01:40:08 PM »
Yeah.....u know what a 9mm does to a leg...nothing. If you shoot, you shoot to kill period. If you want to go non lethal based on the situation, its a different argument. Taser, sting balls..whatever...but no warning shots. Plus comparing America with 350 Million people and Germany or even Iceland..come on.
This.

Limb shots are notoriously difficult and unreliable. If you're going to shoot, you shoot to kill.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 10:47:23 PM »
This should bring some perspective:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Crime

The Germans always try to look down on others. That said, GSG 9 is quite an impressive unit.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 11:58:22 PM »
German Police fire 85 bullets total


Meanwhile Incompetent & Improperly Trained Militarized Cops kill another man in Missouri

Rather than de-escalate situations using mental health professionals, police ALWAYS doubled down on their high-pressure tactics and militarized response.

This is Probably Why Cops Beat & Kill the Mentally Disabled



While German Police Fired 85 Bullets All Year, US Police Use 90 on 1 Person:



It must be nice to live in your fantasy world.  How do the police know what the guys holding weapons intenteds to do?  They aren't mind readers.  They give the "put the weapon down command" and if you come at them then it's over for you. EVERYBODY know that! If they don't and miss your "limb" shot, they get hacked up like Lee Rigby of the UK did by one of the "mentally Ill" criminals you like to defend.

 

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2014, 09:40:00 AM »
It is truly hilarious listening to the ignorant libs who have never fired a gun in their lives talk about how they should 'shoot them in the leg' or 'shoot to wound' and question why multiple shots are needed...

They get all their 'knowledge' of guns from hollywood movies and tv shows, where a handgun is super easy to aim and fire rapidly; they think its just 'point and click' and you can hit dozens of guys from 50 yards away in the head and hands, like its that easy. They have no clue that in real life, handguns require a great deal of effort and training to be able to shoot with extreme precision, especially rapidly.
Hollywood has also taught them that all guns are super powerful death rays, where one bullet often knocks down large men, and any single bullet from any gun is usually instantly fatal. They have no concept of varying calibers or ballistics, or shot placement, or the mechanisms of bullet wounding and ability to incapacitate. They have no clue that most handgun rounds are so inadequate for getting instant stops that they are actually trained to fire center mass until the subject is stopped, and that it quite often required many many rounds to stop a motivated individual. They 'know' from watching tv that one bullet will instantly kill anyone, so to them the only reason they fire more than once is because they are 'mean' or 'trigger happy' ::)

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 10:07:09 AM »
when cops or the military shoot, they shoot to kill.  You are eliminating a threat, not trying to be nice and send social services to the scene.

One man with a machete charging at you is a grave threat that can do a lot of damage even with a bullet in his leg. 


The argument to shoot to wound is stupid.  Less lethal options are available and good to use when appropriate.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2014, 11:13:58 AM »
This.

Limb shots are notoriously difficult and unreliable. If you're going to shoot, you shoot to kill.

Technically, cops are trained to shoot to stop the threat. dying is a byproduct of that sometimes

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2014, 11:22:15 AM »
Technically, cops are trained to shoot to stop the threat. dying is a byproduct of that sometimes

Exactly

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2014, 11:28:31 AM »
This.

Limb shots are notoriously difficult and unreliable. If you're going to shoot, you shoot to kill.

Exactly, that's why cops should just shoot the weapon off the attacker's hand.    :D

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2014, 11:46:33 AM »
Meanwhile, in England





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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2014, 12:02:24 PM »
Meanwhile, in England






Seems like 1 cop with a taser in the bunch could have possibly solved it a lot sooner. But I'm glad no one got hurt

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 04:03:09 PM »
LMFAO jagson has more than likely never even shot a gun nevertheless shot at a moving target.

Your dumb ass wants a person to try and shoot someone in the leg while they are rushing at you waving a machete?

LOL I tell you what dumb ass Ill take the michete and you can have the gun b/c you have no fucking clue what youre talking about.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2014, 05:28:30 PM »
LMFAO jagson has more than likely never even shot a gun nevertheless shot at a moving target.

Your dumb ass wants a person to try and shoot someone in the leg while they are rushing at you waving a machete?

LOL I tell you what dumb ass Ill take the michete and you can have the gun b/c you have no fucking clue what youre talking about.

How about with a shotgun?  Wouldn't that work OK?

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 06:01:38 PM »
How about with a shotgun?  Wouldn't that work OK?
Sure if I get a crossbow ;)

are you advocating for the police to carry shotguns instead of pistols? that seems to go against the "militarization of the police" rhetoric that is going around.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 10:09:30 PM »
Sure if I get a crossbow ;)

are you advocating for the police to carry shotguns instead of pistols? that seems to go against the "militarization of the police" rhetoric that is going around.

Don't most cops have a shotgun in their cars already? 

I've pretty recently relocated to SoCal and even motorcycle cops seem to have some kind of shotgun attached to their bikes. 

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 10:37:57 PM »
LMFAO jagson has more than likely never even shot a gun nevertheless shot at a moving target.

Your dumb ass wants a person to try and shoot someone in the leg while they are rushing at you waving a machete?

Star man argument, the stlouis fella, walked very fucking slowly, and they originally had sufficient distance to be safe.

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Re: German police fire 85 bullets total
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2014, 04:31:35 AM »
Yeah.....u know what a 9mm does to a leg...nothing. If you shoot, you shoot to kill period. If you want to go non lethal based on the situation, its a different argument. Taser, sting balls..whatever...but no warning shots. Plus comparing America with 350 Million people and Germany or even Iceland..come on.

And your comment is a prime example of why there is a distinction between soldiers & police, ...or at least there ought to be. A soldier is trained to kill the enemy. The police are suppose to Protect & Serve. Cops todays are militarized and every town & community is treated as foreign battle zone with an enemy that needs to be put down, rather than a community that needs to be protected & served.

It is the heavy police presence that escalates the situation and causes these uprisings.

Riots didn't break out until the Police came heavy handedly to break up what was a peaceful protest.
The way they handled the aftermath of the shooting is what made the whole pot boil over.

There was another fatal shooting in St. Louis. Did we see riots taking place there? Did we see riots taking place in California, ...or even in NY after Eric Garner? Why only in Ferguson.

So manyof you are missing the point. This thing has gone way beyond Michael Brown. No one knows what happened that afternoon except Michael Brown, Darren Wilson, and Dorian Johnson. Brown is dead, and Wilson & Johnson have conflicting stories.

What is evident is the Police messed up in the aftermath in a big way. the eyes of the world are upon them, and the police, the media everyone seems to have an agenda, and a spin to which to play to the masses, however, you forget foreign media outlets don't necessarily subscribe to the narratives penned by those with an agenda.

There are International protests against the way the Police in Ferguson handled this as far away as Egypt.

When Egyptian authorities are telling American LEOs to chill out, you know you need to check yourselves.

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