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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #150 on: October 04, 2014, 06:35:32 AM »
Aiki Ju Jutsu(Daito Ryu) then Aiki Budo. it was later Aikido. The Grounder of Aikido.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #151 on: October 04, 2014, 07:23:26 AM »
That's normal, many younger people are easily fooled by their elders.  This is why Seagal refuses to fight legitimately and prove himself, he knows he will get his arse kicked and the illusion will be shattered.  He enjoys the illusion  and having the gullible worship and idolise him because they don't know how to differentiate the conman from the genuine deal.  Add in some movies where he appears to be invincible and then carry that some presence into real life, you have a great conman. I will give Seagal props for creating a great gimmick and being an excellent conman, it has helped his B grade acting career but most of all it fuels his deficient ego that needs this type of artificial prop to feel valid.  I have met many people like this, they are great tricksters, but once called out they have a myriad of techniques to shy away from any real challenge or confirmation of their claims.
This x 1000... The same could be said for every other invincible movie fighter, like Bruce Lee, Tony Jaa, Scott Adkins, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, JCVD, and all others... Difference is that nice guys like Chan and Li, for example, know their places, others like Seagal do not... He was something different with no fancy moves, had that charismatic misterious character in late 80s, early 90s, first movies were decent, but he ruined everything with his mouth and actions...
good answer. It takes a long time to learn. If you want effective self defence fast then i would go for Wing chun. I like the traditional aspect of Aikido. All these film stars have Egos regardless of Background in Martial Arts.
Don't know about Wing Chun Donny, to me looks laughable and the less legit TMA of them all... Aikido can have something useful for self defence, but slapping Wing Chun?

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #152 on: October 04, 2014, 08:15:58 AM »
sorry but i saw this and laughed..

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #153 on: October 04, 2014, 10:48:12 AM »
Ever since I first saw "Master of the Flying Guillotine"  I have been in awe of and scared excrementless of Kung Foo Fighters.

There was one film wherein the two good guys had to fight the one evil bad dude at the end and they kept changing "styles".  They tried "Monkey Style" and got the bananas beat out of them.  Then they tried "Tiger Style" and promptly got declawed.  The final straw was when they recovered from yet another failed "style" of fighting one of them said...

"Change to Doggy Style" and the theater exploded in laughter.  True story.   

Bruce Lee was once asked why most martial arts films are set a few centuries ago and he replied, "No guns."

I think that stuff is cool and could never do it myself. 

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #154 on: October 05, 2014, 12:06:01 AM »
lol.  Nobody cares about Aikido, it is considered a joke, a fraudulent martial art.  He may as well be a black belt in macrame.

So you are saying that those MMA fighters are just plain stupid when they hire Seagal to teach them? This has to mean that MMA is just as fake and ridiculous fucking farce as the American wrestling is, because those fucking pricks are stupid enough to hire an actor to teach them fighting  ;D

And what you little children's seem to be incapable to comprehend is the fact, that Aikido is only for defense. It doesn't include attacks at all, it is purely defensive martial art, so if you want to bully first graders at the schoolyard, it doesn't do the job. What Seagal do in the movies is mix of kung fu, aikido and what ever he have pick on his way to Hollywood. What you child's don't understand is the fact, that he were teaching aikido decades before he became an actor. Surely I understand that you with your little foil hats would believe that he had fake schools with fake students, and fake incomes and fake taxes from them just to build his image, so he could start making those b-movies something like twenty years later, but isn't that little bit too big stretch even to your pervert imagination?  ;D ::)

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #155 on: October 05, 2014, 12:35:52 AM »
So you are saying that those MMA fighters are just plain stupid when they hire Seagal to teach them? This has to mean that MMA is just as fake and ridiculous fucking farce as the American wrestling is, because those fucking pricks are stupid enough to hire an actor to teach them fighting  ;D

And what you little children's seem to be incapable to comprehend is the fact, that Aikido is only for defense. It doesn't include attacks at all, it is purely defensive martial art, so if you want to bully first graders at the schoolyard, it doesn't do the job. What Seagal do in the movies is mix of kung fu, aikido and what ever he have pick on his way to Hollywood. What you child's don't understand is the fact, that he were teaching aikido decades before he became an actor. Surely I understand that you with your little foil hats would believe that he had fake schools with fake students, and fake incomes and fake taxes from them just to build his image, so he could start making those b-movies something like twenty years later, but isn't that little bit too big stretch even to your pervert imagination?  ;D ::)
Nobody ever hired Seagal to teach them anything, he latched onto them like a leech.  They just happened to be fans of his movies and he took that opportunity to weasel his way into PRETENDING to train them.  They were just polite so they indulged him.  You are obviously oblivious to techniques that washed up actors use in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.  Seagal is using any opportunity he can to remain in the spotlight, using a couple of UFC fighters to do so is just another ploy.  His latest one is to latch on to Vladimir Putin. Once the fighters realized what he was up to and taking credit for their hard work, they quickly distanced themselves from him.

Why on Earth would the most successful UFC champion NEED a B Grade actor to teach him how to fight.  Look Ropo, you obviously have a hard-on for Seagal and a deep need to believe that he is the real deal, but he is an ACTOR, not a fighter.  The idea that a portly Aikido guy taught two kicking masters a kick that is learned in every child's first karate class is absurd.  Don't forget, Seagal was chocked out by an old man and actually SHIT his pants, stinking up the place, all in front of dozens of witnesses.

Fellow Brazilian and top ranked UFC Fighter Damian Maia had this to say about the dubious relationship between the fighters and the B Grade movie actor. "The bloated fake martial artist and movie actor Steven Seagal has absolutely nothing to teach a real fighter like Silva, and everyone knows it. That’s a lie, it is marketing. He never taught anything to Anderson…it is a joke.”

This is a direct quote from Anderson Silva "Steven Seagal is good man. There’s no coach, no train me, but is good man. Just a good person, that’s it. … Yeah, I train the front kick for long time. I start to train martial arts for long time ago. Steven Seagal showed me the movement, the little movement, but don’t teach me this kick. Because I working hard for this kick for long time in my life."



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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #156 on: October 05, 2014, 01:26:20 AM »
 ;D
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #157 on: October 05, 2014, 01:40:59 AM »
Daito Ryu...wonderful pinning techniques.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #158 on: October 05, 2014, 04:31:34 AM »
Daito Ryu...wonderful pinning techniques.

browsed thru this vid quickly

typical nonsense


far far far removed from reality


when people fall for this they cant be helped only find out for themselves

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #159 on: October 05, 2014, 05:49:30 AM »
Yoshinkan Aikido from Gozo Shioda is tought to the Japanese Police.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2010/04/27/issues/battered-briton-survives-aikido-ordeal/

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #160 on: October 05, 2014, 05:51:03 AM »
Yoshinkan Aikido from Gozo Shioda is tought to the Japanese Police.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2010/04/27/issues/battered-briton-survives-aikido-ordeal/

Joint locks are great for police officers to learn.
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #161 on: October 05, 2014, 05:58:46 AM »
Joint locks are great for police officers to learn.
this is also a very intresting school of Aikido from Kenji Tomiki which introduced Competition and Randori. He was a high ranking Master of Judo and combined Aikido and Judo.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #162 on: October 05, 2014, 06:02:01 AM »

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #163 on: October 05, 2014, 06:21:40 AM »
who needs an Iron Palm when you can do this? These Guys can lift more weight with their cocks than some guys here bench.. ;D

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #164 on: October 05, 2014, 11:47:39 PM »
Nobody ever hired Seagal to teach them anything, he latched onto them like a leech.  They just happened to be fans of his movies and he took that opportunity to weasel his way into PRETENDING to train them.  They were just polite so they indulged him.  You are obviously oblivious to techniques that washed up actors use in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.  Seagal is using any opportunity he can to remain in the spotlight, using a couple of UFC fighters to do so is just another ploy.  His latest one is to latch on to Vladimir Putin. Once the fighters realized what he was up to and taking credit for their hard work, they quickly distanced themselves from him.

Why on Earth would the most successful UFC champion NEED a B Grade actor to teach him how to fight.  Look Ropo, you obviously have a hard-on for Seagal and a deep need to believe that he is the real deal, but he is an ACTOR, not a fighter.  The idea that a portly Aikido guy taught two kicking masters a kick that is learned in every child's first karate class is absurd.  Don't forget, Seagal was chocked out by an old man and actually SHIT his pants, stinking up the place, all in front of dozens of witnesses.

Fellow Brazilian and top ranked UFC Fighter Damian Maia had this to say about the dubious relationship between the fighters and the B Grade movie actor. "The bloated fake martial artist and movie actor Steven Seagal has absolutely nothing to teach a real fighter like Silva, and everyone knows it. That’s a lie, it is marketing. He never taught anything to Anderson…it is a joke.”

This is a direct quote from Anderson Silva "Steven Seagal is good man. There’s no coach, no train me, but is good man. Just a good person, that’s it. … Yeah, I train the front kick for long time. I start to train martial arts for long time ago. Steven Seagal showed me the movement, the little movement, but don’t teach me this kick. Because I working hard for this kick for long time in my life."



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That is absolutely the worst front whatever kick I have ever seen.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #165 on: October 06, 2014, 01:13:16 AM »
That is absolutely the worst front whatever kick I have ever seen.
He has retained his running ability.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #166 on: October 06, 2014, 03:50:32 AM »


that video says it all, I watched that yrs ago and still laugh my balls off everytime I see it ;D, same thing will happen to seagal if he fought  MMA and tried to use his aikido,hed go down fast
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #167 on: October 06, 2014, 03:54:18 AM »
Nobody ever hired Seagal to teach them anything, he latched onto them like a leech.  They just happened to be fans of his movies and he took that opportunity to weasel his way into PRETENDING to train them.  They were just polite so they indulged him.  You are obviously oblivious to techniques that washed up actors use in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.  Seagal is using any opportunity he can to remain in the spotlight, using a couple of UFC fighters to do so is just another ploy.  His latest one is to latch on to Vladimir Putin. Once the fighters realized what he was up to and taking credit for their hard work, they quickly distanced themselves from him.

Why on Earth would the most successful UFC champion NEED a B Grade actor to teach him how to fight.  Look Ropo, you obviously have a hard-on for Seagal and a deep need to believe that he is the real deal, but he is an ACTOR, not a fighter.  The idea that a portly Aikido guy taught two kicking masters a kick that is learned in every child's first karate class is absurd.  Don't forget, Seagal was chocked out by an old man and actually SHIT his pants, stinking up the place, all in front of dozens of witnesses.

Fellow Brazilian and top ranked UFC Fighter Damian Maia had this to say about the dubious relationship between the fighters and the B Grade movie actor. "The bloated fake martial artist and movie actor Steven Seagal has absolutely nothing to teach a real fighter like Silva, and everyone knows it. That’s a lie, it is marketing. He never taught anything to Anderson…it is a joke.”

This is a direct quote from Anderson Silva "Steven Seagal is good man. There’s no coach, no train me, but is good man. Just a good person, that’s it. … Yeah, I train the front kick for long time. I start to train martial arts for long time ago. Steven Seagal showed me the movement, the little movement, but don’t teach me this kick. Because I working hard for this kick for long time in my life."



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that about sums it up, seagal was just a groupy and the UFC and fighters played along with it. he didn't teach anyone anything period
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #168 on: October 06, 2014, 04:10:43 AM »
lot of Hard Men on here. i feel so Humbled  8)

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #169 on: October 06, 2014, 04:20:36 AM »
I remember an Argyll and Southern Highlander Recruiting Sgt talking about fighting. After i signed on i met him a few Days after by chance in a pub and had a drink with him. He said what would you do first in a fight.. after listening to me he said, spit in his fucking eyes. This Little Scotsman needed no Martial arts training. He was rough as fuck.

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« Reply #170 on: October 06, 2014, 05:51:30 AM »
What is funny is that he is completely right. I love when Americans who have absolutely NO idea about complexities of eastern Europe are first to jump into conclusions just because it is Russia and "Putin is bad". Let me clue you in. Putin is just as bad as any politician on this level, he just just fucking better at what he is doing. On top of that, this conflict is far more complex than you can imagine. Despite what you were brainwashed to believe, on the other side of that conflict there are no good, oppressed Ukrainian civils. Look up for UPA, then check out photos from Ukraine. You will see their flags everywhere.



This is mother killed with his child by Ukrainian missle. Look up how many civils were killed by Ukrainians and how many by separatists so far.

I am proud citizen of Poland and as such, I take no sides here. Ukrainian right wing extremists are natural enemies of my country. Soviets were our enemies as well, but I don't see Russians putting motherfucking soviet flags everywhere. Personally, I would take no sides in this conflict and just let them bleed.

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« Reply #171 on: October 06, 2014, 06:04:59 AM »
What is funny is that he is completely right. I love when Americans who have absolutely NO idea about complexities of eastern Europe are first to jump into conclusions just because it is Russia and "Putin is bad". Let me clue you in. Putin is just as bad as any politician on this level, he just just fucking better at what he is doing. On top of that, this conflict is far more complex than you can imagine. Despite what you were brainwashed to believe, on the other side of that conflict there are no good, oppressed Ukrainian civils. Look up for UPA, then check out photos from Ukraine. You will see their flags everywhere.



This is mother killed with his child by Ukrainian missle. Look up how many civils were killed by Ukrainians and how many by separatists so far.

I am proud citizen of Poland and as such, I take no sides here. Ukrainian right wing extremists are natural enemies of my country. Soviets were our enemies as well, but I don't see Russians putting motherfucking soviet flags everywhere. Personally, I would take no sides in this conflict and just let them bleed.

 ???,maybe u posted in wrong thread by mistake
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #172 on: October 06, 2014, 06:20:41 AM »
That is absolutely the worst front whatever kick I have ever seen.

Yup - no power in it whatsoever.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #173 on: October 06, 2014, 06:32:06 AM »
Bahaha, what was all that shit at the start with his students falling down and flipping over like he's controlling then as if he's a real life magneto.
The mma fella hardly touched him yet he was fucked so quick, clearly never faced a "real" opponent before
that video says it all, I watched that yrs ago and still laugh my balls off everytime I see it ;D, same thing will happen to seagal if he fought  MMA and tried to use his aikido,hed go down fast

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #174 on: October 06, 2014, 06:36:04 AM »
Yup - no power in it whatsoever.

I agree, seriously man seagal moved like a 70 yr old man who had to take a mean shit running to the bathroom :D,man hes in worst shape than I thought :P
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