Author Topic: Natty or Not? (Read 41064 times)

anabolichalo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2014, 10:47:47 AM »

Quote from: Simple Simon on October 12, 2014, 10:40:03 AM

Seriously, a 6ft guy at 176lb?

180cm is 5'11"

Simple Simon · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2014, 10:54:36 AM »

Quote from: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 10:47:47 AM

180cm is 5'11"

Then thats even more believable.

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2014, 06:56:30 PM »

neither Hansen or TA's eg are lifetime nattie

both have that previous user,have come off steroids look

TA's example looks in great shape but I don't believe hes LTN

C-BuZz · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:09:42 PM »

Not a single natty was seen that day.

SF1900 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:29:21 PM »

How are we defining "natural?" Currently natural? Does drug use 4 years ago, but clean for a year still count as natural?

njflex · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:33:09 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on October 12, 2014, 07:29:21 PM

How are we defining "natural?" Currently natural? Does drug use 4 years ago, but clean for a year still count as natural?

no your a 'clean'lifter/bber,,tagged with former user for life ...but ur like a born again bber u pray to the natural gods now...all is forgiven,

jude2 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:47:22 PM »

Quote from: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 10:47:47 AM

180cm is 5'11"

Until we learn that height and weight has nothing to do is someone is natural, this debate will go on forever. I am seen MANY guys that look natural and are juiced to the gills. People respond differently to the drugs, bottom line.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:53:27 PM »

Maybe if natural means "haven't taken any steroids yet today when this photo was taken."

First guy's look reminds me of that "Scooby" closet-case on YouTube.

njflex · « **Reply #33 on:** October 12, 2014, 07:54:27 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on October 12, 2014, 07:53:27 PM

Maybe if natural means "haven't taken any steroids yet today when this photo was taken."

First guy's look reminds me of that "Scooby" closet-case on YouTube.

yes long pecs/bunched shoulders/small traps...

cephissus · « **Reply #34 on:** October 12, 2014, 08:47:30 PM »

Quote from: Simple Simon on October 12, 2014, 10:36:28 AM

The natty test.

if anyone on this planet can coach me to be a 190 lb, 5% bf natural, i will give them 5 million dollars

no one · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2014, 10:28:11 PM »

Quote from: cephissus on October 12, 2014, 08:47:30 PM

if anyone on this planet can coach me to be a 190 lb, 5% bf natural, i will give them 5 million dollars

a) you don't have 5 million dollars

b) w arms like yours I'd say you should be happy if you can get to 160/ 5%

no one · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2014, 10:33:51 PM »

as to Adonis' question. natty? lol stop.

Simple Simon · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:10:59 PM »

Disgusted attributing natty to a lot of people of late who look way better conditioned than most pros and way more muscualr than he has ever been with drugs.

fantasist of peace.

galain · « **Reply #38 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:24:55 PM »

Second dude has a great physique. If he's natty he inherited some pretty good genetics and put in the hours.

cephissus · « **Reply #39 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:27:20 PM »

Quote from: no one on October 12, 2014, 10:28:11 PM

a) you don't have 5 million dollars

b) w arms like yours I'd say you should be happy if you can get to 160/ 5%

ding ding ding

we have a perceptive one

smoothasf · « **Reply #40 on:** October 13, 2014, 12:14:24 AM »

None of them are natural

MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #41 on:** October 13, 2014, 12:45:02 AM »

TA & Disgusted saying it can be done easily,

Then why haven't you done it?

Griffith · « **Reply #42 on:** October 13, 2014, 01:16:43 AM »

If you've used steroids in the past, it will give you an advantage due to muscle memory.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #43 on:** October 13, 2014, 01:26:46 AM »

Quote from: njflex on October 12, 2014, 07:33:09 PM

no your a 'clean'lifter/bber,,tagged with former user for life ...but ur like a born again bber u pray to the natural gods now...all is forgiven,

Exactly, so isn't it ironic when 'natural' bodybuilding feds accept competitors that haven't juiced for at least 7 years?

Costanza · « **Reply #44 on:** October 13, 2014, 01:27:32 AM »

If the Getbig protocol of 'anything under 3 grams a week is natural' is adhered to then I'd say yes he's natural.

anabolichalo · « **Reply #45 on:** October 13, 2014, 03:53:28 AM »

i've been natural for 11 years or so and i've been juiced for about a year and a half

i could never get my arms past 15,5" naturally (5'11") in those 11 years and right now i'm at 17,5" from a year and a half of juice

natural bodybuilding is a joke

heenok · « **Reply #46 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:37:06 AM »

most of your mass is built during the first 3 years of training
after that i say you have about 2 years of really minor gains, if you are really dedicated

past the 5 years mark you can only work on little details or bodyfat levels
the muscle building is over

and this is for a consistent trainer not some guy who train 6 month a year

phil mcgroin · « **Reply #47 on:** October 13, 2014, 05:29:53 AM »

Quote from: d0nny2600 on October 12, 2014, 10:07:38 AM

Natural or not guy looks great.

I think people tend to say drugs if someone has low body fat and has any sort of size.

You can have a great physique without drugs it just takes time and effort.

ROFLMAO

gracie bjj · « **Reply #48 on:** October 13, 2014, 05:58:17 AM »

alot of guys will juice for years then stop and claim natural, the way i see it it u juiced in the past u can never claim natural,cause them drugs did in fact help u get where u r at that point

Grape Ape · « **Reply #49 on:** October 13, 2014, 06:02:19 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on October 12, 2014, 09:57:54 AM

I think I rode him pretty hard at one time and he came You could probably dig it .

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