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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #100 on: October 19, 2014, 09:44:43 AM »
I started working out this morning at 5am doing shoulders and calves and when I finished it was 7am, now it makes me wonder about you guys who finish your workout in 45 min, there is no way you are working out hard unless you are doing HIT, you are kidding yourself in the gym which is why you dont see progress.
It's called heavy weight circuit training buh ;D.
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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2014, 05:45:45 PM »
i need 2 hours per body part

1 hour and a half for legs


1 hour and a half for any other part is rushing it


1 hour? impossible

If you are being serious here, you are seriously over doing it.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2014, 06:06:13 PM »
Why would you program a closed chain exercise then an open chain followed by another closed chain exercise?

Why wouldn't you?

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2014, 06:10:39 PM »
When Viator worked for Nautilus of course the story line was whole body routines done in record time. When he did the Colorado experiment he only used Nautilus for incredible muscle memory gains without steroids.

The truth is according to some in the know he did a lot more than Nautilus during the Colorado thing. According to a guy who trained all the time in the same gym as Viator he used around 15 sets per body part when he achieved his best ever condition in the 80's.  Does anyone believe he didn't use steroids for the Colorado experiment? If you do I own this big bridge in Brooklyn that I'm selling cheap. You could make a fortune in setting up a toll booths.   

Regarding Yates he did use one set to failure. He wasn't about to use 415 for incline presses without a warm up. Yes he used 135,225 and 315 for a warm up. His real set was the 415 to failure. Some exercises he didn't use a warm up according to where the exercise was in his routine. Those warms were not taxing and stopped after easy reps. No one can walk into a gym and load a bar with with a crazy weight and do one set to failure for major exercises.

How do you know this? Casey was closely supervised 24/7 by Arthur Jones.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2014, 10:21:09 PM »
If you are being serious here, you are seriously over doing it.

Something like 98% of gym trainers are training too much. This is a fact. Why? Because this is how it have always been, and because no one would believe how little is enough, if they haven't try. There isn't any mystical secrets, it is all common knowledge, but it seem to be too easy to be the truth.. You just have to drop your ego out from the training, and there you are  ;D

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #105 on: October 19, 2014, 10:33:34 PM »
Something like 98% of gym trainers are training too much. This is a fact. Why? Because this is how it have always been, and because no one would believe how little is enough, if they haven't try. There isn't any mystical secrets, it is all common knowledge, but it seem to be too easy to be the truth.. You just have to drop your ego out from the training, and there you are  ;D


It isn't all about ego in my opinion. A lot of people really believe if a little bit is good, more is better. This applies to how much one exercises and sadly the dosages of PEDs many people ingest. Excess is rarely a good thing. We see evidence of this every day.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2014, 04:49:10 AM »
If you are being serious here, you are seriously over doing it.

lazy sack of shit


what do you know about bb

nothing

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #107 on: October 20, 2014, 08:22:50 AM »
How do you know this? Casey was closely supervised 24/7 by Arthur Jones.

People believing fairy tales. Jones was trying to sell and market exercise machines. They were really outstanding I will admit.

Casey trained in the same gym as David Young who said he saw him using a lot of volume and by his count it was about 15 sets a body part during his prep for contests in the early 80's. Regarding the Colorado experiment do you believe he was supervised by Arthur Jones 24/7? The HIT crowd is almost like a cult. I will search through my pile of magazine articles to see if I can find the information on the Colorado experiment truth. I just found it. http://bodybuilding_workout.home.insightbb.com/trainingarticles/jeff_everson/index.htm

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2014, 10:20:15 AM »
It's exercise.

Whether it be running, biking or weights, there's no reason to spend the whole day doing it.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #109 on: October 20, 2014, 11:06:36 AM »
It's exercise.

Whether it be running, biking or weights, there's no reason to spend the whole day doing it.
anything worth doing is worth doing well

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #110 on: October 20, 2014, 11:23:44 AM »
So this was my leg working this morning listening to some hardcore heavy metal in my headphones to get me into warmode.

5 sets of squats
5 sets of lunges
5 sets of leg press
5 sets of stiff legged deadlifts
5 sets of leg curls
5 sets of leg extensions

The thing you guys dont understand is how powerful the human body is and how it can adapt to any situtation, if you were to try my leg workout today you could not do it, but if you were to slowly increase the sets each week and give the body a chance to adapt you could pull it off without feeling overtrain, I do this marathon session and I walk out of the gym feeling great.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #111 on: October 20, 2014, 11:31:17 AM »
So this was my leg working this morning listening to some hardcore heavy metal in my headphones to get me into warmode.

5 sets of squats
5 sets of lunges
5 sets of leg press
5 sets of stiff legged deadlifts
5 sets of leg curls
5 sets of leg extensions

The thing you guys dont understand is how powerful the human body is and how it can adapt to any situtation, if you were to try my leg workout today you could not do it, but if you were to slowly increase the sets each week and give the body a chance to adapt you could pull it off without feeling overtrain, I do this marathon session and I walk out of the gym feeling great.

no calves

lol


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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #112 on: October 20, 2014, 11:32:31 AM »
So this was my leg working this morning listening to some hardcore heavy metal in my headphones to get me into warmode.

5 sets of squats
5 sets of lunges
5 sets of leg press
5 sets of stiff legged deadlifts
5 sets of leg curls
5 sets of leg extensions

The thing you guys dont understand is how powerful the human body is and how it can adapt to any situtation, if you were to try my leg workout today you could not do it, but if you were to slowly increase the sets each week and give the body a chance to adapt you could pull it off without feeling overtrain, I do this marathon session and I walk out of the gym feeling great.


I bet your leotard gets right up your vagina when you do some of those.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #113 on: October 20, 2014, 11:36:14 AM »
no calves

lol



I do calves on shoulder day I never do them with quads.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #114 on: October 20, 2014, 11:36:56 AM »
I do calves on shoulder day I never do them with quads.
why not?

do you need quads to cheat the weight up

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #115 on: October 20, 2014, 11:40:10 AM »
The thing you guys dont understand is how powerful the human body is and how it can adapt to any situtation,

We do understand fuckwad - it's the only reason this entire forum hasn't collectivly slammed their eyes into a pile of shattered beer bottles to be able to avoiding reading the piles and piles of unfunny, sucky shit bag posts that you subject us to here on a daily basis.

Go fuck yourself, you man licking shit dick.

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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #116 on: October 20, 2014, 11:40:35 AM »
I bet your leotard gets right up your vagina when you do some of those.

Yes I work out in tights and so does ronnie, when your quads get pumped they look awesome you can see all the veins in ronnie quads.


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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #117 on: October 20, 2014, 11:42:11 AM »
Yes I work out in tights and so does ronnie, when your quads get pumped they look awesome you can see all the veins in ronnie quads.



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Re: 45 minutes does not work in the gym
« Reply #118 on: October 20, 2014, 12:30:20 PM »
I've recently had to cut back my training trime- not the length of sessions per se, but overall weekly volume. After working back into things following my surgery last September, by June I was  training 3 times a week, and my poundages were back up to my normal range. This, 7 months after starting back with weights that would barely challenge a teen girl on her bad days. After FINALLY receiving the equipment I had bought off Ebay and starting my garage gym; consisting of 7 Nautilus pieces, a Universal pullover, a vertical leg press and a short power rack, along with an O bar, and over 750 lbs in plates, including 4 100's, I trained 3 times a week still, until the combined drain of  this, plus working my butt off in my PsyD program, and additional assorted other stresses kept me in a perpetual state of  trying to recover. I finally gave in to the sense of perpetual fatigue, took an additional 2 days off after my second workout of last week, and in yesterday's leg workout, went up on every set, including getting 395 for 10 strict, slow reps on the Nautilus leg extension. Going for contractions rather than sets or reps, though I got up to 62 reps on bench situps holding a 25 lb plate before having to terminate the set. Squats are back up to 475 for 8 and other exercises were all PRS. I can't agree that 45 minutes to an hour isn't PLENTY if you work hard.