This seems to be a good topic with the latest issue over certain pros getting out of the main stream to take care of themself. I personally have only seen shawn in the off off season and know that he still looks incredible without being on anything and think his genetics are bar none. I know Kevin's latest movie physique is looking up there too. As far as Jay and Paul, the GH belly has gone to far and by the time the FULL pump goes back to normal and the belly don't, I dispute whether or not they would have a pleasing look on "genetics" alone! I personally say Shawn all the way!