This muscle mania competitor natural?

[heenok]

In all seriousness muscle mania is a joke
they are all on drugs

[_bruce_]

Shorts signal that he's not natural 

[_aj_]

Pretty sure that all the muscle mania guys are natty. It's designed to be a safe haven for those athletes that wish to pursue the drug squat free path.

It's a great organization.

Fixed.

[Julio Ceasar]

I am natural and don't have the genetics to look as good as this guy. No way.

However, I do think a small percentile of people could possibly achieve that look naturally even if the vast majority would require gear to do so.
That's just going by that one pic though.

I would recomend go google atheltics track n field etc from the 40 50 60ies and se how a natural fit body look like! Something like this if u have world class genetics!

[Simple Simon]

I would recomend go google atheltics track n field etc from the 40 50 60ies and se how a natural fit body look like! Something like this if u have world class genetics!

They didnt have celltech.

[Julio Ceasar]

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[Beckenbauer]

I would recomend go google atheltics track n field etc from the 40 50 60ies and se how a natural fit body look like! Something like this if u have world class genetics!

Do u have an aversion for black athletes? They started to slowly dominate track&field in the 40s/50s too.
One comes to my mind who made Hitler look bad, Jesse Owens?

[Beckenbauer]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

Judging from this pic, it looks achievable. Looks like 10-12% fat? And his height plays a roll too.

[Beckenbauer]

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Any natural with shitty genetics can have more biceps than these guys. U compare sport specific guys to a bodybuilder 

[calfzilla]

More info on this fella:

He was new on the bodybuilding scene when he won the '11 MM New York last October. But now Maik Wiedenbach is attracting a lot of attention in and outside of the natural competitive circuit. The 36 year old, 6'2", 230 lbs. New York City personal training service entrepreneur also is the author of "101 Fitness Myths". But, as Maik explains, he has always been an athlete. "I used to be World Cup swimmer and turned into a bodybuilder 7 years ago. I train high-volume, similar to Arnold, which only makes sense since I am German." Maik holds a Masters degree in History and Philosophy as well as a Balchelors in German Literature. He claims that bodybuilding is an art form. "My ambition is simply to create an aesthetically pleasing physique along the lines of Frank Zane or Bob Paris, something that's missing in today's bodybuilding." Maik's form of physical art will be on display at MM Superbody in Atlantic City on August 25.

[Pet shop boys]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

Good question


What I've learned from decades of dealing with this types of "Natties"  is that you can either achieve upper body like his or legs naturally  but not both ...


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

[visualizeperfection]

what's bullshit about that?

That's not maxed out.

[thebrink]

Discussion open.... He looks like a track athlete, I don't see obvious sings of abuse, there's football (soccer) players with similar builds..

Cmon what about the gyno?!

[AmonRa]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

NO.

[AmonRa]

Good question


What I've learned from decades of dealing with this types of "Natties"  is that you can either achieve upper body like his or legs naturally  but not both ...


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

This is actually my experience as well. The body can only maintain so much mass naturally.

[phil mcgroin]

If not, is this achievable naturally?

I hate to make rash judgments but givin his unusual mass combined with his1 in100,000. Leaness would make it highly unlikely.A man with his superior genetics would excell in athletics and that he chose physique bulding over the other money making sports which would have come easy to him instead raises much more doubt but the gyno on his left side seals it.ALL DRUGS.