not trying to take shots at titus but the guys here IN THE KNOW also know that titus was a juiced bodybuilder and wasnt a trained fighter,if u guys havent trained MMA/BJJ u dont understand that the average person would be out of breath in 30 seconds to 2 minutes.the fact that titus was so huge and was on steroids he prolly would of been out of breath even quicker, id be willing to bet that any pro bodybuilder on the circuit right now would not be able to even grapple hard or box hard for 3 minutes without being totally out of breath.muscles need oxygen when they r being worked and the more muscle u have the more oxygen u expend when working them. a guy like titus would have been totally gassed out in 2 minutes in a real street fight when adrenaline and anger is at its highest.im sure titus can kick some average dude on the streets ass that aint a fighter but against a skilled fighter thats in shape he would get crushed,i know some of u craig worshippers cant accept this but its the reality of the situation. to be honest i think a guy like robbie lawler whos 185 would of tore titus up back then,who knows maybe even frankie edgar whos 135 would take his ass out