Dad Banned From School After Complaints About Daughter’s Islam Homework

[Soul Crusher]

correct

instead they go to countries like Uganda and try to influence the governments to just put homosexuals in jail

just spreading that "good news" the of the gospel of jesus

and you know they would love to do the same thing here if only they could

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/03/scott-lively-anti-gay-law-uganda

You love those twinks in Uganda don't you?

[Straw Man]

You love those twinks in Uganda don't you?

you're the self appointed twink expert on this board so why don't you tell us about them

[Necrosis]

Oh please.  Christian churches don't execute homosexuals.  You realize homosexuality is punishable by death in some Muslim countries?

If you don't see a distinction between Islam and Christianity, then you must be a paranoid anti-religious extremist.

Your response isn't even in line with mine, you just made an argument and attacked it, I said nothing of the sort. The distinction is how serious the followers take their religion, that's the difference. It seriously calls for stoning via all sorts of crazy shit. Islam isn't as enlightened, they are treating religion like christians did during the inquisition. They are out of step, however, because one has "advanced" it doesn't negate the common unde.rpinnings

[Dos Equis]

Your response isn't even in line with mine, you just made an argument and attacked it, I said nothing of the sort. The distinction is how serious the followers take their religion, that's the difference. It seriously calls for stoning via all sorts of crazy shit. Islam isn't as enlightened, they are treating religion like christians did during the inquisition. They are out of step, however, because one has "advanced" it doesn't negate the common unde.rpinnings

That doesn't make sense, because Christians follow their religion just as seriously as Muslims. 

I know atheists love to read the Bible and quote Old Testament passages about stoning, etc. but that was a completely different lifetime, different context.  When has a person ever been stoned in the United States by the Christian church?  Trying to draw parallels between Christianity and Islam is just illogical.

There is no question that today's Islam is twisted.  Stoning women who commit adultery.  Requiring a woman who is raped to have three eyewitnesses.  Executing homosexuals.  Some straight up caveman stuff.  No reasonable person compares that kind of practice with what Christianity has taught for the past 2,000 years. 

[Straw Man]

That doesn't make sense, because Christians follow their religion just as seriously as Muslims. 

I know atheists love to read the Bible and quote Old Testament passages about stoning, etc. but that was a completely different lifetime, different context.  When has a person ever been stoned in the United States by the Christian church?  Trying to draw parallels between Christianity and Islam is just illogical.

There is no question that today's Islam is twisted.  Stoning women who commit adultery.  Requiring a woman who is raped to have three eyewitnesses.  Executing homosexuals.  Some straight up caveman stuff.  No reasonable person compares that kind of practice with what Christianity has taught for the past 2,000 years. 

They would if they could

[Necrosis]

That doesn't make sense, because Christians follow their religion just as seriously as Muslims. 

I know atheists love to read the Bible and quote Old Testament passages about stoning, etc. but that was a completely different lifetime, different context.  When has a person ever been stoned in the United States by the Christian church?  Trying to draw parallels between Christianity and Islam is just illogical.

There is no question that today's Islam is twisted.  Stoning women who commit adultery.  Requiring a woman who is raped to have three eyewitnesses.  Executing homosexuals.  Some straight up caveman stuff.  No reasonable person compares that kind of practice with what Christianity has taught for the past 2,000 years. 

It;s illogical? to compare to prominent religions which are speak about many of the same things, even Jesus? you just proved my point with your time contextual argument, this shit was christianity during the inquisition. The states are relatively new compared to countries in the middle east, to compare practices in both is in fact illogical. It also proves my point, one is more advanced, that's it. One is taken as if it was literal, one is not, both use to be however.

A better comparison of religions by nations would be north africa and the middle east, in the north christians practice genital mutilation in large numbers. You also have a ideology in both which can be manipulated to meet ones own needs as it's up for "debate", some of it allegorical, some literal, all divinely inspired? you are also comparing two wildly disparaging countries, one in strife and war another at the pinnacle of civilization.

[Dos Equis]

It;s illogical? to compare to prominent religions which are speak about many of the same things, even Jesus? you just proved my point with your time contextual argument, this shit was christianity during the inquisition. The states are relatively new compared to countries in the middle east, to compare practices in both is in fact illogical. It also proves my point, one is more advanced, that's it. One is taken as if it was literal, one is not, both use to be however.

A better comparison of religions by nations would be north africa and the middle east, in the north christians practice genital mutilation in large numbers. You also have a ideology in both which can be manipulated to meet ones own needs as it's up for "debate", some of it allegorical, some literal, all divinely inspired? you are also comparing two wildly disparaging countries, one in strife and war another at the pinnacle of civilization.

Yes it's illogical to compare extremism to mainstream practices.  Christianity never advocated the inquisition.  That was the Catholic church doing very bad things, about 600 years ago.  Seriously? 

Your comments about being literal are simply inaccurate.  Christians are literally Christians and Muslims are literally Muslims.  What you're trying to do is say Christians don't "literally" believe what the Bible teaches.  They do.  They just understand context.  You cannot do the same with Islam, because what they taught hundreds of years ago that applied during that era is still being used today. 

You can call that evolving, and some sense that might be accurate, but I think it's more accurate to say that certain things in the Old Testament only applied to the people of that era.  They (Israelites) were given very specific rules and guidelines for their time, which included a number of ceremonies, etc.  If you actually read the entire Bible, you can place those things in context and would understand that those practices were limited to that historical moment in time.  You cannot say the same thing about Islam.   

[Straw Man]

Here are some of your fellow christians

and nice job with the Conservative Indoctrination

[Soul Crusher]

Here are some of your fellow christians

and nice job with the Conservative Indoctrination

Hey fagget - fred phelps was a democrat

[Straw Man]

Hey fagget - fred phelps was a democrat

and a Christian

apparently he hates people like you

[tonymctones]

Maybe I do sorta of see it, Tony.  I can see why it seems that way but it might have something to do with the fact that Christianity is the dominant religion here so that's why folks complain about it. 

Kinda like how folks complain about police abuse here in the USA;  I'm 100% sure police abuse is much worse in a lot of foreign countries but we don't hear folks complaining about the foreign cops doing the shit they do because it doesn't happen here so it doesn't affect us much. 

Tricky thing to criticize religion in America, for sure since freedom of religion is supposed to be important to Americans. 

Personally, I think the freedom to practice the religion of one's choice is fine...up until folks try to use it to cover for breaking the (secular) law.  So no, you can't wear a freakin' mask veil (hijab?) in public, for instance.  And, sorry, you shouldn't be able to break discrimination laws just because your religion says homo's are evil.

Whatever the reason bashing christianity in america gets a pass doesnt matter. The fact is christianity gets called out where other religions at times get passes.

If you want equality you need to champion all equality, not just the ones you agree with.

[RRKore]

What was this supposed Islam homework?

Better news articles about this are available now.

The girl was assigned a 3-page paper about Islam covering Mecca and the 5 pillars of blah, blah, blah.

BTW, the girl is a Junior in High School (not a kid in Jr High), so that means she's about 16, I think.

http://www.somdnews.com/article/20141027/NEWS/141029296/1043&source=RSS&template=gazette

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Students are required to pass world history as a graduation requirement, O’Malley-Simpson said. A piece of the world history course involves studying Middle Eastern culture and the formation of its empires — the Maryland State Board of Education has dictated that Middle East be part of the curriculum for many years, O’Malley-Simpson said.

At all three levels of the course, normal, honors and Advanced Placement, students study this material. Students must also enroll in government and U.S. history.

Policies exist that allow a child to complete an alternative assignment if the parents complain, O’Malley-Simpson said, but not in the case of world history.

“If parents object to a book that’s assigned, and the assignment is to gather certain reading skills, assigning them a different book doesn’t matter,” she said. “The student still gains the skills and knowledge. In the case of world history and other subjects, it’s part of the curriculum and it’s part of the standards you’re supposed to learn.”

Students learn aspects of other religions as well, O’Malley-Simpson said. When studying the Renaissance era, they are taught aspects of Christianity and the role it played in the reformation. When students learn about China and India, Hinduism and Buddhism are both discussed, she said.

Administration will not be discontinuing the assignment in dispute, O’Malley-Simpson said.

The Woods’ daughter skipped the world history class Monday and will not complete any more assignments, per her parent’s wishes. She will receive “zeros” on those assignments, the Woods said.

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More at link.

[Wolfox]

Typical republitard.

Its world history you numbskull. You're gonna learn about other religions and cultures.

That's why that republitard is a soldier and not anyone in command. High ranking members of the military know its important to know thy enemy. 

[Necrosis]

Yes it's illogical to compare extremism to mainstream practices.  Christianity never advocated the inquisition.  That was the Catholic church doing very bad things, about 600 years ago.  Seriously? 

Again this is my point, you don't seem to grasp it.

Your comments about being literal are simply inaccurate.  Christians are literally Christians and Muslims are literally Muslims.  What you're trying to do is say Christians don't "literally" believe what the Bible teaches.  They do.  They just understand context.  You cannot do the same with Islam, because what they taught hundreds of years ago that applied during that era is still being used today. 

Do you really want to go down this road? leviticus wants everyone dead, from going to mt sinai to blaspheming. You must not have read your holy books.Again you prove my point. We are in agreement.

You can call that evolving, and some sense that might be accurate, but I think it's more accurate to say that certain things in the Old Testament only applied to the people of that era.  They (Israelites) were given very specific rules and guidelines for their time, which included a number of ceremonies, etc.  If you actually read the entire Bible, you can place those things in context and would understand that those practices were limited to that historical moment in time.  You cannot say the same thing about Islam.   
You can't pick and choose like this, again my point, you are in a better place with laws in place that prohibit these "rules" while muslim majority countries do not. Look at UK, far less sharia bullshit going on, the cultural difference is important along with the degree of civilization

I see both as inherently violent, any god that forces people to love him under threat of eternal damnation is at essence a sadomasochist.

Regardless, the us has many many muslims and you do not see any of this activity? is it the religion? or is it the culture and degree of civility? which makes most sense BB?

[Coach is Back!]

and a Christian

apparently he hates people like you

Sorry dude, you can't have both.

[Necrosis]

Sorry dude, you can't have both.

huh? Jesus would most certainly not be a republican, you guys complaining about food stamps and welfare is in direct contrast to Jesus Christ and his teachings. He railed against the rich and opulent, he even indicated that acquiring material possesions was afront to him, him directs you to help the needy, the poor, the less fortunate. Give up all your possessions, a rich man entering heaven is as likely as a camel passing through the eye of a needle, AKA impossible. I agree with him, profit is causing alot of suffering, in humans and in other species, the idea of excess is accetable is absurd. Look at the fat glutenous americans, obesity is raging out of control, meanwhile people starve, would jesus condone this? nope.

[Coach is Back!]

huh? Jesus would most certainly not be a republican, you guys complaining about food stamps and welfare is in direct contrast to Jesus Christ and his teachings. He railed against the rich and opulent, he even indicated that acquiring material possesions was afront to him, him directs you to help the needy, the poor, the less fortunate. Give up all your possessions, a rich man entering heaven is as likely as a camel passing through the eye of a needle, AKA impossible. I agree with him, profit is causing alot of suffering, in humans and in other species, the idea of excess is accetable is absurd. Look at the fat glutenous americans, obesity is raging out of control, meanwhile people starve, would jesus condone this? nope.

Sure, whatever you say. That's always the atheist/Lib translation

Good God!!

[Necrosis]

Sure, whatever you say. That's always the atheist/Lib translation

Good God!!

Expected response, I bet you have not read the bible. Did jesus not say that getting into heaven as a rich man (material things) was impossible? yes or no? how else would you interpret his saying?

He stands for everything you hate, charity, inclusion, equality etc.

[Coach is Back!]

Expected response, I bet you have not read the bible. Did jesus not say that getting into heaven as a rich man (material things) was impossible? yes or no? how else would you interpret his saying?

He stands for everything you hate, charity, inclusion, equality etc.

Where do you get this from? Charity does not mean robbing from tax payers. Charity means giving freely which is what Christians do more than any government that steals because they THINK its for a good cause to bolster their agenda. You have a warped sense reality. As for Matthew 19:23, you might want to see some of the cross references to that scripture. But I digress. 

[Coach is Back!]

Also, what I was referring to when I said you can't have both. If you claim to be a Christian and support the gay agenda and abortion...you're not a Christian...PERIOD!

[Wolfox]

Also, what I was referring to when I said you can't have both. If you claim to be a Christian and support the gay agenda and abortion...you're not a Christian...PERIOD!

Pretty sure God decides that - not some midget.

[Straw Man]

Sorry dude, you can't have both.

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[Necrosis]

Where do you get this from? Charity does not mean robbing from tax payers. Charity means giving freely which is what Christians do more than any government that steals because they THINK its for a good cause to bolster their agenda. You have a warped sense reality. As for Matthew 19:23, you might want to see some of the cross references to that scripture. But I digress. 

Jesus asked you to give up your early possesion, serve others and specifically help the poor. Jesus would not participate in your government, do you not know his life?

[Coach is Back!]

Jesus asked you to give up your early possesion, serve others and specifically help the poor. Jesus would not participate in your government, do you not know his life?

I can honesly say that Christians rich or poor give up a lot more of their possessions that anyone else. You make it sound like Jesus was suggesting to give up all possessions for others exept family. Providing a comfortable living for my family comes first and for most.

[Necrosis]

I can honesly say that Christians rich or poor give up a lot more of their possessions that anyone else. You make it sound like Jesus was suggesting to give up all possessions for others exept family. Providing a comfortable living for my family comes first and for most.

Another example of not taking your book seriously, he didnt say alot of your possessions, he said all. You are living by your own rules, not those based in the bible. He was trying to point out that if eternity does in fact exist, then your stupid new car or any of that bullshit is worthless and it is.

I actually agree with you, I agree because I don't agree with Jesus however, you are certainly not following his example. Wasn't jesus all about love and acceptance?