Its hard to believe anyone could think hes natural.True,if seen quiet a few guys that ate his size judging from the video with his shirt on.The problem i have os he is able to get so lean without losing size even someone using loses size to get so lean.secondly,ive seen guys that can get that lean naturaly(actualy not that lean)and they are very lean ALL year no matter what.Much leaner than this guy is in that video wirh his shirt on.Dont give me the b.s. he gets that lean and can bulk too.If you want to believe him you can,but your never going to be able to do it.Best to vome back down to reality