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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #125 on: November 04, 2014, 08:46:56 AM »
He says he's open to any kind of testing year round. Wonder if he'd be open for us to see his liver values.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2014, 09:42:52 PM »
Sure they test those people. Only thing is there's nobody in the organization to read the results properly.

No, do you even know how testing is done? Any federation that does their own testing isn't worth shit. In IPF, IWF, IFBB etc. they hire guys from WADA to do that. WADA has very high standards and result is just number of illegal (by WADA standards) substances that were detected in given dude's sample and that's it. Yes, there are ways to beat the system, there is a number of substances that you can take year round, get off couple of days before competition and you will be clean as a whistle. It is widely known, there is no secret formula, no magic potions that elite athletes are given.

And again, yes, they could potentially just take blood samples of every athlete competing in for example olympics every week, year round. They do have money for that, they have virtually infinite amount of resources. The reason why they don't do that is because they don't want to - results would go down, it would be pretty clear that everyone before juiced. They do enough testing just to pretend they test anyone and not even a bit more. I know I haven't discovered America here but some guys seem to be unaware.

Now, when it comes to so called "natural bodybuilding" you have to take into account that even most popular bodybuilding federation has very small audience, especially when it comes to tested (amateur) part. Therefore I cannot believe any random, small federation can afford legitimate drug testing. Please explain, if all of those guys get tested during competitions, random tested year round... Who the fuck pays for that? Schmoes?

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #127 on: November 04, 2014, 10:03:02 PM »
He says he's open to any kind of testing year round. Wonder if he'd be open for us to see his liver values.
Bay will check his nuts for atrohpy ;D

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #128 on: November 04, 2014, 11:51:50 PM »
When in doubt, go back to science:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/fat-free-mass-index-in-users-and-nonusers-of-anabolic-androgen-steroids-research-review.html/

25 FFMI is your upper limit guys. And by upper limit I mean limit for most blessed guys out there. Most of us won't even make it cause average is 21.8.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2014, 01:38:01 AM »
No, do you even know how testing is done? Any federation that does their own testing isn't worth shit. In IPF, IWF, IFBB etc. they hire guys from WADA to do that. WADA has very high standards and result is just number of illegal (by WADA standards) substances that were detected in given dude's sample and that's it. Yes, there are ways to beat the system, there is a number of substances that you can take year round, get off couple of days before competition and you will be clean as a whistle. It is widely known, there is no secret formula, no magic potions that elite athletes are given.

And again, yes, they could potentially just take blood samples of every athlete competing in for example olympics every week, year round. They do have money for that, they have virtually infinite amount of resources. The reason why they don't do that is because they don't want to - results would go down, it would be pretty clear that everyone before juiced. They do enough testing just to pretend they test anyone and not even a bit more. I know I haven't discovered America here but some guys seem to be unaware.

Now, when it comes to so called "natural bodybuilding" you have to take into account that even most popular bodybuilding federation has very small audience, especially when it comes to tested (amateur) part. Therefore I cannot believe any random, small federation can afford legitimate drug testing. Please explain, if all of those guys get tested during competitions, random tested year round... Who the fuck pays for that? Schmoes?

I think you missed something in my post. Maybe the irony..........

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2014, 02:29:40 PM »
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