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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2014, 09:47:45 PM »
I have seen him compete years ago, and he has added some serious size lately.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2014, 10:35:00 PM »

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2014, 11:17:47 PM »
I cant even believe how stupid people on this board ARE? WTF.
The first pic is of true adonis probably about 170lbs at 5-6% body.Very naturally attainable.
Even with average.The second pic is of Doug Miller, He is not natural.
I have judged about 200 shows, tested and  non tested.
I am a judge for 4 diffrent organizations .
This joker is not natural, its is not possible,even with elite gentics.
This guy is 195 lbs at 2.5 % bodyfat.
He is 20-30lbs heavier then TA and half the bodyfat.
Plus he is alot fuller and harder.
TA I dont care haow hard you diet.Even if you put down the Pecan pie.
You would never be this big or even be close to this condition naturally.Never
Not only coulnt you achieve this condtion, not even the best genetics could achieve this condition naturally.
If people could achieve this look without drugs.Guys  wouldnt use steroids!!!1
Trust me know one likes taking.Taking roids sucks.Getting shots suck.Trus tME..I been training 30 years.
THIS GUY IS NOT NATURAL.nOT POSSIBLE
I was natural for 16 years,

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2014, 12:13:14 AM »
I cant even believe how stupid people on this board ARE? WTF.
The first pic is of true adonis probably about 170lbs at 5-6% body.Very naturally attainable.
Even with average.The second pic is of Doug Miller, He is not natural.
I have judged about 200 shows, tested and  non tested.
I am a judge for 4 diffrent organizations .
This joker is not natural, its is not possible,even with elite gentics.
This guy is 195 lbs at 2.5 % bodyfat.
He is 20-30lbs heavier then TA and half the bodyfat.
Plus he is alot fuller and harder.
TA I dont care haow hard you diet.Even if you put down the Pecan pie.
You would never be this big or even be close to this condition naturally.Never
Not only coulnt you achieve this condtion, not even the best genetics could achieve this condition naturally.
If people could achieve this look without drugs.Guys  wouldnt use steroids!!!1
Trust me know one likes taking.Taking roids sucks.Getting shots suck.Trus tME..I been training 30 years.
THIS GUY IS NOT NATURAL.nOT POSSIBLE
I was natural for 16 years,

Come on, even disgusted says you can get as ripped and conditioned natty, its not just TA.

I do find it odd that men are more ripped than women naturally, maybe that has something to do with higher levels of testosterone so I would presume that test has something to do with achieving better condition.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2014, 12:17:53 AM »
 I guess if Doug is 2.5% this guy is dead.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2014, 12:21:33 AM »
Simple Simon likes to embellish a lot.  ;)
Not that much I would wager.

What are your current stats by the way?

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2014, 12:28:23 AM »
Not that much I would wager.

What are your current stats by the way?

266 today haven't even lifted in a while and not an ab showing. Wanna bet?

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2014, 12:30:28 AM »
266 today haven't even lifted in a while and not an ab showing. Wanna bet?
So 266 and 5'11?

What are you 25 or 30% bf?

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #108 on: November 04, 2014, 12:38:13 AM »
So 266 and 5'11?

What are you 25 or 30% bf?

Prob not that low.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #109 on: November 04, 2014, 12:41:18 AM »
I guess if Doug is 2.5% this guy is dead.

no,maybe a little bit lower..like 2.2313524%
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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #110 on: November 04, 2014, 12:42:19 AM »

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2014, 12:44:54 AM »
:-X

It's ok bro don't be sad. Why you up so early?

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2014, 12:47:12 AM »
It's ok bro don't be sad. Why you up so early?
Its 08.45am ,I know for an unemployed gym rat that may seem excessive but Im on holiday this week, I normally get up at 5am.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2014, 12:48:34 AM »
Its 08.45am ,I know for an unemployed gym rat that may seem excessive but Im on holiday this week, I normally get up at 5am.

Livin the dream nothing wrong with that.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2014, 01:12:17 AM »
No you havent.

Show us your ripped glute pics big boy.  ;)


This is not lean. This is still like 10%. I've been that lean, there is a lot of fat on the abs here still. If he was sitting there would be visible fat on his stomach. Actually I think I've been leaner than that... And I'm not a bodybuilder.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2014, 03:44:25 AM »
No you havent.

Show us your ripped glute pics big boy.  ;)


This is lean, but the issue here is that, he cannot handle going much lower in body fat without turning into a stringy mess. Notice the flatness to the physqiue in the pecs, between the abs, and around the neck/trunk area. That's just pure fat around there. People look at fat loss like it's the only factor involved in getting the look Doug has.. it's also to do with muscle density and size. Not just "cutting" fat. I mean most people have the discipline to drop calories and cut. But if you don't have the size and the density to display underneath, your 5% body fat will just look like you've disappeared, much like True Adonis. Not that he doesn't look good, but this is a stringy mess... this is the build people use anabolics to enhance because the drugs build those fibers up, so you have a very dense arm. The more dense a muscle is, the more separated it becomes... that = shredded/thick/lean, i.e. like a thick steak with no fat between it.


I cant even believe how stupid people on this board ARE? WTF.
The first pic is of true adonis probably about 170lbs at 5-6% body.Very naturally attainable.
Even with average.The second pic is of Doug Miller, He is not natural.
I have judged about 200 shows, tested and  non tested.
I am a judge for 4 diffrent organizations .
This joker is not natural, its is not possible,even with elite gentics.
This guy is 195 lbs at 2.5 % bodyfat.
He is 20-30lbs heavier then TA and half the bodyfat.
Plus he is alot fuller and harder.
TA I dont care haow hard you diet.Even if you put down the Pecan pie.
You would never be this big or even be close to this condition naturally.Never
Not only coulnt you achieve this condtion, not even the best genetics could achieve this condition naturally.
If people could achieve this look without drugs.Guys  wouldnt use steroids!!!1
Trust me know one likes taking.Taking roids sucks.Getting shots suck.Trus tME..I been training 30 years.
THIS GUY IS NOT NATURAL.nOT POSSIBLE
I was natural for 16 years,


This is true. Those who take don't particularly love to do it. They're usually driven there by extreme feelings of inadequacy. Once you take, it's just evidence that you're weak in the mind, and that is what really needs correcting, not the body. You feel that you need to define yourself by your physique, and getting attention for it, and you will go out of your way, by any means to get your physique big enough to be noticed. It's literally like a guy walking around flailing his arms around BEGGING for people to notice him. For most people. And that includes many pro bodybuilders who use the competitions as a cover up for their extremely poor body image issues, sadly.

Now does this apply to naturals? I wouldn't say so... because those who are genetically blessed have found satisfaction in who they are, and just love to improve their physiques by natural means. Of course some do want to take but are scared because of the social stigma, needles or whatever so they don't really count.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2014, 05:02:56 AM »
your flailing your intellectual superiority complex around on getbig trying to make yourself feel like the shit. Its not much different. Besides people bodybuild for more reasons than vanity, sometimes it helps make a living either directly for some pros or indirectly through PT work or running a gym, supplement company etc. Also vanity is independent of steroid use, a natural bodybuilder can be just as vain as an enhanced one.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2014, 05:27:08 AM »
your flailing your intellectual superiority complex around on getbig trying to make yourself feel like the shit. Its not much different. Besides people bodybuild for more reasons than vanity, sometimes it helps make a living either directly for some pros or indirectly through PT work or running a gym, supplement company etc. Also vanity is independent of steroid use, a natural bodybuilder can be just as vain as an enhanced one.

or sometimes random men off of the internet send you money every week.  :-\ :-\
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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2014, 05:38:56 AM »
t.a. for what's it worth look pretty good there,and he's semi relaxed there,he was coming off a  big bulk I believe'on here who knows what order people post pics they could be fat now and post best pics from yrs ago'..doug miller has a look some drug 'heavy 'drug users can never achieve ,so theres no secret ,its what he say's and what is believed..

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2014, 05:51:02 AM »
or sometimes random men off of the internet send you money every week.  :-\ :-\

I wish

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #120 on: November 04, 2014, 05:52:37 AM »
Carl Lewis
Lance Armstrong
Doug Miller

Three of the greatest athletes of our generation.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #121 on: November 04, 2014, 05:53:28 AM »
The fact that anyone even remotely thinks this is natural explains why they would even let him do a natural show....

Come on. Filt.

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #122 on: November 04, 2014, 05:54:54 AM »
The fact that anyone even remotely thinks this is natural explains why they would even let him do a natural show....

Come on. Filt.
PROBABLY they need someone to carry the organization name wise,he's the resident freak..in the npc there are many/many guys close to or better in the long run...

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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #123 on: November 04, 2014, 06:15:15 AM »
Doug "Natural" Miller must get so pissed when people challenge his so called natural status. I can just picture him at his keyboard, trying away with a fury.

He actually posted his drug test results which all came out negative  :D :D

This one is for the haters lol. Actually I know the haters will still hate and the doubters will still doubt but there is such a thing as natural bodybuilding and its possible to look good even without performance enhancing drugs! And yes the organizations do actually test (polygraph and urinalysis).
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Re: New Doug miller photos showing nattyness
« Reply #124 on: November 04, 2014, 07:00:49 AM »
And yes the organizations do actually test (polygraph and urinalysis). [/b][/glow]

Sure they test those people. Only thing is there's nobody in the organization to read the results properly.