Apartheid - is it time America?

[andreisdaman]

Shut up, rapist.

ahhh.....I love it when someone has no intellectual retort and resorts to name calling...it shows the thread topic is too intellectual for them and they feel bad that they don't have the intellectual capacity to fit in..

why not go back to the sex boards where I'm sure you spend most of your time so you can masturbate without having to think?

[andreisdaman]

Lets just not mention that blacks (slaving and selling each other) introduced the black slaver trade to Europe eh?  EPIC denial of black culture.

wow...again..EPIC DENIAL......europeans (especially the Romans) had been enslaving people for years....not just them but also the Egyptians, Africans and others too.....Africans didn't introduce anything negative to white culture.....except hip hop

[andreisdaman]

LOL because blacks didn't have written laws AT ALL?  Just a sick cruel cultural belief and practice.  Epic DENIAL.

not in the United States we didn't....nor did the Indians.....you guys made the laws to benefit yourselves and broke it when it benefitted you as well....not a criticism JUST THE TRUTH

but then again they didn't teach you that in school did they??...they only taught you that columbus was a hero

[Bindare_Dundat]

ahhh.....I love it when someone has no intellectual retort and resorts to name calling...it shows the thread topic is too intellectual for them and they feel bad that they don't have the intellectual capacity to fit in..

why not go back to the sex boards where I'm sure you spend most of your time so you can masturbate without having to think?

Its s fact. You are a sick rapist.

[andreisdaman]

Its s fact. You are a sick rapist.

taking a comment that I jokingly made in another thread and bringing it to an intellectual thread shows poor form on your part...you are breaking GetBig protocol....If you're so out of your league in terms of the subject matter then leave thread instead of harrassing me

THANK YOU

[Irongrip400]

After independence, Haiti was required to pay France a huge amount money, specifically in retribution for eliminating the colonial power.
It's generally accepted that the demand was illegal but nobody did anything about it so the country was plunged into debt.
This is in fact what ruined the country economically.

In 2003 the president of haiti made the mistake of "requesting reparations" from the colonial entity France

...it wasn't long before this fellow found himself on a one way trip to Africa courtesy of the US Army 

Half the wealth of France came out of this island and these days people there can be found literally eating dirt to survive.

Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy. 

[Galvatron]

Negroes can't build anything unless they are supervised by the white man.

[Archer77]

EPIC minimizing of white responsibility

I would also offer to you that SLAVERY IS ACTUALLY MORE WHITE HISTORY THAN BLACK HISTORY....WHITES IMPOSED AND ENFORCED IT NOT ONLY THROUGH CRUELTY BUT THROUGH LAWS WHICH WERE SANCTIONED BY AUTHORITY...

BY SAYING THAT SLAVERY IS "BLACK HISTORY"...IT MINIMIZES YOUR ROLE, PARTICIPATION, AND YES,........GUILT

Whites as a group have no responsibility for slavery. I don't have guilt for slavery.  Why would I?  The fact you can't differentiate between a white slave owner hundreds of years ago and myself is your problem.  I don't have to minimize my role, participation and guilt because I had none to begin with.

Slavery is global history not white or black history.  Islam enslaved more people for longer than the United States.  As a matter of fact, slavery still exists in Islamic countries and Africa for that matter. The Islamic slave trade in Africa was brutal.  The males slaves were castrated and the female slaves became concubines.  Now that is serious destruction of the black family.  Your African ancestors gladly handed over their brothers and sisters to Muslims and Europeans. Slavery was been an institution in Africa for millennium and continues today. Slavery was ended in African countries only because the colonial governments demanded it. In review, European whites are and continue to be the only group that ended slavery as an institution. Islam and African's haven't  Instead of guilt, I feel tremendous pride.

[SuperTed]

Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy. 

Similar tale with Japan. Many countries have been through hell and back and rose from the ashes. If anything, a traumatic history should drive the citizens of such nations to improve and move forward.
However, when a country remains in dire straits year upon year without any sign of improving, you have to start questioning the initiative of the inhabitants.

The black posters here (Parker, Andre etc.) are intelligent guys and as a non-white myself, I'd like to hear what factors (outside colonism) they feel are responsible for the problems countries like Haiti have.

[andreisdaman]

Whites as a group have no responsibility for slavery. I don't have guilt for slavery.  Why would I?  The fact you can't differentiate between a white slave owner hundreds of years ago and myself is your problem.  I don't have to minimize my role, participation and guilt because I had none to begin with.

Slavery is global history not white or black history.  Islam enslaved more people for longer than the United States.  As a matter of fact, slavery still exists in Islamic countries and Africa for that matter. The Islamic slave trade in Africa was brutal.  The males slaves were castrated and the female slaves became concubines.  Now that is serious destruction of the black family.  Your African ancestors gladly handed over their brothers and sisters to Muslims and Europeans. Slavery was been an institution in Africa for millennium and continues today. Slavery was ended in African countries only because the colonial governments demanded it. In review, European whites are and continue to be the only group that ended slavery as an institution. Islam and African's haven't  Instead of guilt, I feel tremendous pride.

hahahahaha...okay, man...LMFAO.....This is really amazing.....keep being delusional and in denial.....its fine..we're still freinds, man!

[Archer77]

hahahahaha...okay, man...LMFAO.....This is really amazing.....keep being delusional and in denial.....its fine..we're still freinds, man!

Always friends If I saw you in person I would take you to the nearest bar and buy you a drink.

[Rhino]

The word Slave comes from Slavic. We were the slaves in my part of the world. And then the same Arab/Islamic people that had slaves now point the finger at me? And people point the finger at me because of my skin colour? As if all people with my skin colour (being that I am Ukrainian) are the same? The word "white" is too vague. Racist biggots like Andre here think all whites are the same. WE WERE THE SLAVES YOU RACIST BIGGOT ANDRE!!!

[andreisdaman]

Similar tale with Japan. Many countries have been through hell and back and rose from the ashes. If anything, a traumatic history should drive the citizens of such nations to improve and move forward.
However, when a country remains in dire straits year upon year without any sign of improving, you have to start questioning the initiative of the inhabitants.

The black posters here (Parker, Andre etc.) are intelligent guys and as a non-white myself, I'd like to hear what factors (outside colonism) they feel are responsible for the problems countries like Haiti have.

Good point...but remember, Japan and Germany didn't do it on their own...they had MASSIVE American financial help....Also in th case of Japan, America practiacally ran the country for a few years after WWII...so the U.S. was able to build up their institutions until they could function on their own..remember..black Americans and American Indians were prevented BY LAW from building up the same

[mr.turbo]

Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy.  

what are you talking about?

Did the government of Germany get overthrown in 2004?

you cannot be serious...you want to compare Haiti to Germany, this will be fun.

[MAXX]

Good point...but remember, Japan and Germany didn't do it on their own...they had MASSIVE American financial help....Also in th case of Japan, America practiacally ran the country for a few years after WWII...so the U.S. was able to build up their institutions until they could function on their own..remember..black Americans and American Indians were prevented BY LAW from building up the same

So that's why blacks never built any functioning civilizations Worth mentioning? even in Africa where there's no 'white man holding them down'...

I know you're black and proud but man face the reality of things

[Rhino]

Actually, there was the Nubian and Ethiopian Empires. Well worth a mention... don't you think? Egypt is technically in Africa. 

Also, Egypt includes African people as well... even though most consider themselves "Arab" they are all in fact Egyptian and share that in common. Fair or dark... all are Egyptian and should be given credit for Ancient Egypt - IMO

[mr.turbo]

The US dollar has African architecture printed on it.  What's that about?

[Rhino]

Don't forgot how much Zombie and voo doo culture as well in America and the movies. People love that stuff. We just don't see it... even though it's all around us. I am sure there is Zulu influence as well... since people love great warriors lol

[Rhino]

The US dollar has African architecture printed on it.  What's that about?

yeah, just like people don't think about how the walking dead in an African story since it's from voo doo as Zombies are voo doo. Just saying... there's achievements from Africa too... may it be stories or architecture.

[mr.turbo]

no need to make up elaborate fairy tales about history and so on

actually I'm quite interested in this theme of comparing Germany to Haiti. Very impressive concept!

does someone have the ability to make sense of it?  

[mr.turbo]

Irongrip400

you expressed an interest in the recent history of Haiti so a short summary was provided.

Did you understand it?

Would you like something clarified?

Apparently you have some thoughts on Germany in this context so I'm eager to understand exactly what those thoughts are. 

Look forward to hearing from you!

[mr.turbo]

yeah, just like people don't think about how the walking dead in an African story since it's from voo doo as Zombies are voo doo. Just saying... there's achievements from Africa too... may it be stories or architecture.

agreed, western pop culture is totally dominated by african influences...just look at the music

the modern European cultural "giants" hoarded, and imitated African art

Picasso



anyway...maybe we can discuss the wonderful achievements of europe over the last 5 or 6 centuries.  

I'm sure these fellas know all about it!

[Rhino]

agreed, western pop culture is totally dominated by african influences...just look at the music

the modern European cultural "giants" hoarded, and imitated African art

Picasso



anyway...maybe we can discuss the wonderful achievements of europe over the last 5 or 6 centuries.  

I'm sure these fellas know all about it!

Europe? That would not be P.C. and you might be called a racist lol

[Rhino]

The word Slave comes from Slavic. We were the slaves in my part of the world. And then the same Arab/Islamic people that had slaves now point the finger at me? And people point the finger at me because of my skin colour? As if all people with my skin colour (being that I am Ukrainian) are the same? The word "white" is too vague. Racist biggots like Andre here think all whites are the same. WE WERE THE SLAVES YOU RACIST BIGGOT ANDRE!!!

 

Oh yeah... I forgot... they STILL HAVE SLAVES!!! JFK tried to free the Slaves around 1964. He told Malik Fisal that "you have slaves there and I want them free!"

[freespirit]