Christ

[gracie bjj]

heres my theory,once u found a religion that u believe in and u find it comforting and its helping u cope with lifes problems than i recommend staying with it. to many people are changing religions/faiths every year and r like blind fish swimmimg in the ocean,i stayed with my same faith since i was 15 yrs old and i dont care what they discover i already believe what i believe and NOTHINGS gonna change that.

[Erik C]

heres my theory,once u found a religion that u believe in and u find it comforting and its helping u cope with lifes problems than i recommend staying with it. to many people are changing religions/faiths every year and r like blind fish swimmimg in the ocean,i stayed with my same faith since i was 15 yrs old and i dont care what they discover i already believe what i believe and NOTHINGS gonna change that.

So you have no potential for growth? Great planning!

[Rhino]

heres my theory,once u found a religion that u believe in and u find it comforting and its helping u cope with lifes problems than i recommend staying with it. to many people are changing religions/faiths every year and r like blind fish swimmimg in the ocean,i stayed with my same faith since i was 15 yrs old and i dont care what they discover i already believe what i believe and NOTHINGS gonna change that.

"like"

[Erik C]

"like"

Why would an intelligent person "like" that? Unless you're not an intelligent person.

[_bruce_]

Listen son, your so called reality is nothing but data collected inside a dream, your still dreaming, wake up!

Besides the son part, I agree with that.
I've read and watched about remote viewing and astral projection/travel and there seems some substance to the matter.
I once woke up inside a dream, because some people were copies of each other,  and the "matrix" kinda dissolved. I was disappointed and after a few seconds I decided to leave the dream and go to sleep...
...I instantly woke up in my room and it was a pretty crazy feeling.

Very interesting, some of you will know what I'm talking about and some will say hallucination, crazy or such.
Nonetheless, very interesting.

[Erik C]

Besides the son part, I agree with that.
I've read and watched about remote viewing and astral projection/travel and there seems some substance to the matter.
I once woke up inside a dream, because some people were copies of each other,  and the "matrix" kinda dissolved. I was disappointed and after a few seconds I decided to leave the dream and go to sleep...
...I instantly woke up in my room and it was a pretty crazy feeling.

Very interesting, some of you will know what I'm talking about and some will say hallucination, crazy or such.
Nonetheless, very interesting.

Yes, I know what you are talking about. You're clueless, and not too bright.

[Bix]

Jesus was a GD liar .....http://www.evilbible.com/Jesus_Lied.htm

[Parker]

Jesus was a GD liar .....http://www.evilbible.com/Jesus_Lied.htm

This person must have some form of mental illness.

[The_Punisher]

there was a funny story about an Atheist who was on a flight and suddenly, the plane encountered severe turbulence and started loosing altitude and was shaking violently and that Atheist shouted "God, please save us"...... ....

[Man of Steel]

Why would an intelligent person "like" that? Unless you're not an intelligent person.

Stop with the trolling.  Clearly you're a gimmick troll.

[Erik C]

Stop with the trolling.  Clearly you're a gimmick troll.

Telling the truth isn't trolling. Christians and all religious nuts, should start telling the truth, and stop with the lies.

[Man of Steel]

Telling the truth isn't trolling. Christians and all religious nuts, should start telling the truth, and stop with the lies.

What is it I should start telling everyone?

[Erik C]

What is it I should start telling everyone?

That there is no god, and religion is all lies.

[Erik C]

there was a funny story about an Atheist who was on a flight and suddenly, the plane encountered severe turbulence and started loosing altitude and was shaking violently and that Atheist shouted "God, please save us"...... ....

A story? Right, a made up story! Do you have any more lies to tell?

[Man of Steel]

That there is no god, and religion is all lies.

LOL!!  Hope you've had some fun the last day or two!!

"THERE IS NO GOD AND RELIGION IS ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!"  ~ random troll Erik C  

 Precious.

Have a night!

[Erik C]

LOL!!  Hope you've had some fun the last day or two!!

"THERE IS NO GOD AND RELIGION IS ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!"  ~ random troll Erik C  

 Precious.

Have a night!

A religious nut, calling anyone who tells the truth a troll. It's a shame that someone would choose to throw away his life, believing in such idiotic nonsense.

[Man of Steel]

A religious nut, calling anyone who tells the truth a troll. It's a shame that someone would choose to throw away his life, believing in such idiotic nonsense.

LOL!!

I've been engaging folks in conversation about religion for years now.

You speak in absolutes only.  There is no "conversation" with you.  Your first posts on the board attack religion, Christians, etc....  You engage me immediately as though you know me and do so with insults and assorted ad hominem attacks.

This ain't my first rodeo.......marks of the religious troll LOL!!

That said....enough.  No conversation is boring.

[Erik C]

LOL!!

I've been engaging folks in conversation about religion for years now.

You speak in absolutes only.  There is no "conversation" with you.  Your first posts on the board attack religion, Christians, etc....  You engage me immediately as though you know me and do so with insults and assorted ad hominem attacks.

This ain't my first rodeo.......marks of the religious troll LOL!!

That said....enough.  No conversation is boring.

You consider it an attack, that I question your beliefs, and you are unable to propose a logical argument to defend the accuracy of your beliefs?

How about this? I challenge your god to a fight to the death. Mano a mano. The winner gets to be the true god. How's that? I mean in the bible your god was always smoting people for this or that, so I should be no match for it. So here I am, calling out your god. Why doesn't he show up to face me? Is he a coward? Is he afraid to show his ugly face? Does he recognize my obvious superiority? What and how many excuses can you make for your non-existent god?

[Parker]

You consider it an attack, that I question your beliefs, and you are unable to propose a logical argument to defend the accuracy of your beliefs?

How about this? I challenge your god to a fight to the death. Mano a mano. The winner gets to be the true god. How's that? I mean in the bible your god was always smoting people for this or that, so I should be no match for it. So here I am, calling out your god. Why doesn't he show up to face me? Is he a coward? Is he afraid to show his ugly face? Does he recognize my obvious superiority? What and how many excuses can you make for your non-existent god?

And that is what it has always boiled down to. In our society, the only obstacle from being God is God.
We are selfish gods, and want no other God telling us what to do and of course, taking attention away from us. Therefore it is convenient to say "God doesn't exist", because in our (your) mind, he doesn't for you are God.
And this, in itself was you garnering attention for your own Godhood.

[Erik C]

And that is what it has always boiled down to. In our society, the only obstacle from being God is God.
We are selfish gods, and want no other God telling us what to do and of course, taking attention away from us. Therefore it is convenient to say "God doesn't exist", because in our (your) mind, he doesn't for you are God.
And this, in itself was you garnering attention for your own Godhood.

Not really. It was a simple demonstration that god doesn't exist, and believers can't contradict it, without looking like even bigger fools, than they look already.

[WillGrant]

No but I`ve trained with a guy named Jesus Garcia!!   


Happy Holidays Will.   

That's a cool name 

To you also, hope you are well 

[Fortress]

Do any of you think that religion is dying out in the age of information?

Do you think only a fraction of civilized people will believe in the next 100-200 years?

It is, indeed. However, there will always be those who suffer mental illness or a weak and fearful mind who require fairy tales to remain happy.

[Fortress]

BS to raise a child ramming any beliefs down their throat is abuse. whether it be religion, anti-religion, politics or whatever else. you let your children know your beliefs but allow them to form their own.

i don't believe any person on this planet can be 100% sure whether there is some kind of higher force or not. science in reality has very few answers about how we got here, what we're doing here and even knows very little about what surrounds us.

Point A) A parent's religious faith isn't something that tends to float by a child's radar in a way that allows him or her to hold it off until a mature and intelligent mind has been formed.

Point B) Sure, there very well COULD be a higher force, but WHY does any such entity have to be classified as a god?! WE create, too, and we are not gods. Is it not so difficult to comprehend that there could be other life forms out there that are perhaps trillions (or more) years beyond our level of sophistication?

Really, people. Come on.  

[Fortress]

I thank you for your story and applaud your courage.  It's take a man of humble heart to disclose something as personal as suffering from mental illness and delusion.  I'm glad you're on the road to recovery and I pray for your full recovery.  I believe you'll get there!!

I often visit other forums of a religious nature as a more casual poster and lurker, but I've witnessed folks that claim they desired to know God and presented a compelling story about how they tried and tried and in the end they found absolutely nothing by way of a God experience.  More mature believers/posters discussed the situation with folks and in the end the majority of folks were found to be lying about their "journeys to know God".  Some just left the boards and weren't able to engage in further discussion.  

Now, I don't at all believe you're lying.  I absolutely believe you suffered from mental illness and delusion and fortunately your mind continues to heal.  Unfortunately, within your developing clarity, you've chosen atheism.  Regardless, I pray for a full recovery for you.

My father told me a story about a man he went to high school with that was a both a friend and believer in Christ.  Their relationship as believers grew, but this friend of my father's became slowly colder yet somehow chaotic and sometimes frenzied.  One evening at a church service he randomly whispered to my Dad and said, "We need to go.  Do you see everyone's face in the choir and audience?  They're all dead man.....they're all dead."  He was clearly not well as I'm sure you can now clearly process.

Now, this old friend of my father was later diagnosed with a mental illness and eventually spent time in the state hospital.  His condition improved slightly, but not as significantly as yours has.  In fact he never fully recovered that I'm aware.  Not everyone that is mentally ill recovers like you have....I'm grateful you have though...it's encouraging for other sufferers I'm sure.  

One simple clarification I would make is that because the mental illness you suffered from incorporated some religious delusion doesn't mean everyone that is religious is also ill like you were.  Like my father's friend, he was diagnosed with mental illness (coupled with delusions), but yet my father was never mentally ill.    In time, with greater healing, I hope you'll begin to understand this.

Again thanks for sharing your story!!

No problem, man. Thanks for your response (and I know, of course, it's been designed to highlight and distort what I wrote. But that's OK. What else have you got?).

[Fortress]

heres my theory,once u found a religion that u believe in and u find it comforting and its helping u cope with lifes problems than i recommend staying with it. to many people are changing religions/faiths every year and r like blind fish swimmimg in the ocean,i stayed with my same faith since i was 15 yrs old and i dont care what they discover i already believe what i believe and NOTHINGS gonna change that.

Dumbest statement in this thread, yet.