if you didnt have those purple stars, i would tell you to fuck off J/k
Im a novice in training back, what would a typical back workout look like?
Back day 1 for me is
Deads pyramid up to 495 for 6
BB row pyramid up to 245 for 6
Chainsaws with 120 for 10 (4 sets)
Seated cable rows heavy for 8 4 (sets)
but that doesnt address Lat width...and when i tried to get to some pull downs and pull ups... i had nothing left
Damn. Decent pulls there. I'm surprised you're not a little stronger on BB rows but, then again, it depends on how you perform them. With just a modicum of "assistance," I worked up to 275 for 6 Pendlay style, and I'm all but certain that, at that point, I could not have pulled 500 more than a rep or maybe two. (OTOH, I hadn't any deadlifting for quite awhile beforehand.)
Anyway, I digress ...
For lat width, yeah, you might go for a thickness day and width day every week. Width is ALL about the lats and rear-delts ... and while close-grip pulldowns or chins and a quality pullover machine can really NUKE the lats if used properly, that elusive lat width ... hmm.
There are many ways to go about that, I reckon. Thrice-weekly, low-volume, high-intensity (or perhaps close to, but just shy of, to-failure training?)?
One thing I always stand by is the relationship between strength and size. Some people dispute that, but I've yet to see a logical argument to the effect that a much stronger lifter is a potentially more muscular lifter.