Unable to stand on his own convictions mentzer tried to persuade zane, coe and others to 'quit' also. They joined mike at first. But once they saw what a loser he was, they distanced themselves from the stench of hobo mike. They quietly returned to the IFBB, turning the other cheek when mike was disgracing himself in the gutter outside of Golds gym, flopping around like a dying fish...... Figures hes your idol.