Test is not best

[mikewhoelse]

i have the feeling that Testosterone is Getting more and more hate ...

Do certain steroids Really give certain looks...?

Or are Ppl to dumb to dose ai correctly Or Even use them (if test is causing bloating etc)


Who Loves high test+Ai only cycles on here and why


LETS GO

[Jizmo]

i dont love high test only cycles but i love high test cycles

facts: test is very side effect free UNLESS:
-you dont control estrogen
-your diet is shit (=you overeat)

test is cheap. test is not harsh. test WORKS.

of course test is not as forgiving as for example tren when it comes to cheat meals and unclean eating (sodium, water retention) but thats why you just run tren WITH it, lol.

ill said it before and ill say it again, test and tren is really all thats ever needed

[pestosterone]

If I have my diet perfect I can look pretty damn good on 350mgs of test only. Test only is cheap and easy to manage with sides u can gain or cut with it but if u want to look your best... Then b On tren

[spiro]

Test makes you a thicker version of what you're. If you want to look impressive and have some pop you really need to stack it with something. You can do test masteron test deca test tren test Npp test eq test and orals. By itself you won't be too happy with it especially if you have experience. The first cycle might be enjoyable because you put on weight and gain strength but after that you really need more than just test.

At least I did. Test at 500mg and Npp at 500mg is was away better than some gram of test.

[kingcon]

See my whole thing with test was that it caps... Like I can run 400mgs or I can run 4g controlling estrogen is a pain and AIs are expensive. Either way isn't the point to reach an end without over saturating it. Like if you could weigh 225 contest ready on 400 mgs why would you shoot over that. Especially if you have to play with AIs and watch your diet all the time. What's the point isn't that more unhealthy?

[mazfit]

would you rather run

1g test 1g tren 1g npp

or

2g test 1g tren

[Jizmo]

would you rather run

1g test 1g tren 1g npp

or

2g test 1g tren

2g test 1g tren 1g npp 

[mazfit]

2g test 1g tren 1g npp  

haha you mother fuker me too mee too - but gotta cut down this month got bills to pay ect car insurance.

could always take hgh out for a month n run that above

wonder how much difference id see from lack of hgh for a few months - been on 5ius a day for 4 months could take it out for 2 and then re - introduce

[oni]

What sort of AI / caber protocol are guys running when over 2g?
I was fine for 12.5mg aromasin EOD + 0.5mg cabergoline a week on 500 test, 800 bold, 350 npp, 700mg anadrol and 350 tren but I was holding a lot of water lol

Running just 250mg at the moment of testosterone, 8 weeks off everything else and starting to look really great dieted down.
Gonna run 150 test p, 350 tren ace, 350 masteron a week with 20mg of epistane a day in a couple weeks time

[pestosterone]

Do u get anything out of epi at 20mg a day?

[mazfit]

personaly epi did nothing for me ran it about 4 years ago

thats lowwww doses, but if you get something out off it props to you!

take arimidex 1mg e3d - got abit of gyno tbh but gna hit it with letro when i start cutting usually kills it.

[Jizmo]

What sort of AI / caber protocol are guys running when over 2g?
I was fine for 12.5mg aromasin EOD + 0.5mg cabergoline a week on 500 test, 800 bold, 350 npp, 700mg anadrol and 350 tren but I was holding a lot of water lol

Running just 250mg at the moment of testosterone, 8 weeks off everything else and starting to look really great dieted down.
Gonna run 150 test p, 350 tren ace, 350 masteron a week with 20mg of epistane a day in a couple weeks time

1mg adex a day for 2g test
probably dont need that much, 0.66mg ed would do aswell i guess
but joints dont hurt or whatever and i look pretty damn good and relatively dry

i dont even run caber on 1g tren nowadays
just when nips start itching or for a sex boost
dont seem to need it at the moment though

[bigmc]

Do u get anything out of epi at 20mg a day?

no run it at double that and you will get a masteron combined with ai effect

[pestosterone]

I ran it at like 50mgs or more I can't remember but didn't really notice much

[oni]

I decided on 20mg because 150/350/350 is 850 and 20mg a day would give me a gram
If it fits your milligrams lol

Yeah I do notice a difference with it also, I don't need much. I ran it at 50mg twice before and it made me sick in less than a week
Also cheers Jizmo

[mazfit]

sick off epistane jeeeeeeez - spose everyone is different

[oni]

sick off epistane jeeeeeeez - spose everyone is different

I was fine on 100mg anadrol with 100mg of dbol a day for 6 weeks lol

[mazfit]

strange!

[Overload]

I prefer to run low dose Test with another compound like Eq or Deca.  Maybe add some Var into the mix.

I haven't used an AI in 5 years.

Also, two years ago i ran 600mg Eq and 600mg Deca for 16 weeks; felt great the entire time with no issues.  I can't say it made me look any different.

The only compounds that really make me look different, when i'm lean, are Tren, Winny, Drol and GH.

I still believe a low replacement dose of Test is needed for about any cycle, but leaning away from high Test cycles mainly due to BP issues.  I actually hold more water on Deca than any other compound, but with a tight diet i don't get bloated on high doses of anything really.  Test and Tren just seem to send my BP through the roof.

[kingcon]

I agree with overload I run my cycles the same way, however I don't see a need for deca anymore. Eq possibly but by and large Im not a fan of the look I get which why buy what ha don't want lol

[ritch]

I was fine on 100mg anadrol with 100mg of dbol a day for 6 weeks lol

Holy Hell you must have been short tempered!!!

[mikewhoelse]

My Problem is the Lack of Options..

1. Deca Boats me... And is proven to be more damaging to the Hertha
2. Tren fucks my skin, BP and mind
3. Primo is awesome but faked and expensive
4.eq is craaaazy for hemocritlevels and anxiety

...

[Jizmo]

Holy Hell you must have been short tempered!!!

dbol makes most people pretty chill

[mazfit]

My Problem is the Lack of Options..

1. Deca Boats me... And is proven to be more damaging to the Hertha
2. Tren fucks my skin, BP and mind
3. Primo is awesome but faked and expensive
4.eq is craaaazy for hemocritlevels and anxiety

...

dont do steroids then.

[oni]

dont do steroids then.

Yeah or just run a dose that gives manageable sides and stay on it year round
500mg weekly is plenty to maintain a large physique. Just pick 2 or 3 compounds and make it up to 500mg lol