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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2015, 08:11:40 PM »
Well I guess we know how she's going to vote.  lol

Justice Ginsburg invokes 'Constitutional' powers in same-sex wedding
by Joni B. Hannigan | 19 May, 2015

U.S. President Barack Obama hugs Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg prior to delivering his State of the Union address on Capitol Hill in Washington, January 25, 2011. L-R: Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Anthony Kennedy, the president, Justice Ginsburg and Justice Stephen Breyer.

WASHINGTON (Christian Examiner) – Invoking what she said are powers invested in her by the U.S. Constitution, 82-year-old Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over a same-sex marriage ceremony Sunday, according to an article in the New York Times.

Ginsburg joined together in marriage, Michael Kahn, artistic director of the Shakespeare Theater Company in Washington, and Charles Mitchem, who works at an architecture firm in New York, Sunday afternoon, according to the Times.

The ceremony between the men took place in an opulent setting at the Anderson House in the Embassy Row neighborhood.

The justice appeared to place special emphasis on the word "Constitution," the article said, and the word was met with loud applause. The Supreme Court has been deeply divided over the issue of same-sex marriage and hearing arguments regarding state laws on whether same-same couples should be permitted to marry.

Justice Elena Kagan and Ginsburg previously have been asked to recuse themselves from the case since before the hearings Ginsburg indicated she had already made up her mind about the issue. Yahoo! Politics said April 27 Ginsberg reported she was in favor of legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide because of America's changing social views.

A New York Times columnist said Ginsburg told her in 2012 about she had a "strong hunch" about the outcome of the case. "I would be very surprised if the Supreme Court retreats from what it has said about same-sex unions," Ginsburg told Gail Collins.

http://www.christianexaminer.com/article/justice.ginsburg.invokes.constitutional.powers.in.same.sex.wedding/48960.htm

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2015, 08:08:16 AM »
well, we guessed at that vote!
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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2015, 09:23:37 AM »
Just a stab in the dark.   :)

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2015, 04:13:58 PM »
He's right.

Marco Rubio: Gay Marriage 'Real and Present Danger' to Christianity

Image: Marco Rubio: Gay Marriage 'Real and Present Danger' to Christianity  (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images) 
Tuesday, 26 May 2015

Wading into a thorny issue, the Republican presidential candidate laments that opponents of gay marriage are labeled "homophobe" or "hater."

 Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio told the Christian Broadcasting Network that the push for nationwide same-sex marriage represents a threat to Christianity.

 "We are at the water's edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech, because today we've reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater," the Florida senator said. "So what's the next step after that? After they're done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech. And that's a real and present danger."

The remarks, posted Tuesday on CBN's website, are a strong denunciation of the gay-rights movement just weeks before the Supreme Court is set to rule on whether same-sex marriage is a constitutional right. Many legal experts believe the Court will invalidate gay marriage bans, in part because there are five justices who voted to advance gay rights as recently as 2013.

"If you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater."

Rubio's comments appear aimed at the evangelical base, a core Republican constituency that remains strongly against same-sex marriage even as a growing majority of Americans want it to be legal. That dichotomy makes it a thorny issue: respected party strategists, including Rubio's own pollster Whit Ayres, have warned that a candidate perceived as anti-gay won't be able to connect with voters under 30. The Republican National Committee warned in a brutally candid 2012 election post-mortem that the party must be more "welcoming and inclusive" when it comes to gay rights or "young people and increasingly other voters will continue to tune us out."

The rhetoric from Rubio, who is locked in a tough fight for the Republican nomination, was more aggressively opposed to gay marriage in the CBN interview than last month when he was asked about the issue by MSNBC, a cable provider that attracts a largely left-of-center audience.

"Ultimately the decision on how we define marriage has always belonged to the states," he said in the April 14 interview. "If in fact, as the polls indicate, a growing number of Americans believe that marriage between two individuals of the same sex should be legal, then they can petition their state legislatures and change their state laws. And in fact, I suspect you'll see that happen. It's already begun to happen."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/marco-rubio-gay-marriage-real/2015/05/26/id/646809/#ixzz3bHz6luwt

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2015, 04:24:55 PM »
He's right.

Marco Rubio: Gay Marriage 'Real and Present Danger' to Christianity


Rubio tries to have it both ways.   sucking up to gay republicans one day, and sucking up to anti-gay marriage supporters the next. 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2016-hopeful-marco-rubio-reaches-gay-republicans-article-1.2195693


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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2015, 04:28:30 PM »
Good for him.  Big tent.  Nothing he said was inconsistent. 

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2015, 04:44:41 PM »
Good for him.  Big tent.  Nothing he said was inconsistent. 

no, but snuggling up to gay republicans one day, and shitting all over gay marriage the next?

way more politics than strong conviction there.

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2015, 04:48:30 PM »
no, but snuggling up to gay republicans one day, and shitting all over gay marriage the next?

way more politics than strong conviction there.

Another instance where you, the compulsive liar, didn't even read the link you posted.  Troll. 

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2015, 04:49:04 PM »
He's right.

Marco Rubio: Gay Marriage 'Real and Present Danger' to Christianity

Image: Marco Rubio: Gay Marriage 'Real and Present Danger' to Christianity  (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)  
Tuesday, 26 May 2015

Wading into a thorny issue, the Republican presidential candidate laments that opponents of gay marriage are labeled "homophobe" or "hater."

 Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio told the Christian Broadcasting Network that the push for nationwide same-sex marriage represents a threat to Christianity.

 "We are at the water's edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech, because today we've reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater," the Florida senator said. "So what's the next step after that? After they're done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech. And that's a real and present danger."

The remarks, posted Tuesday on CBN's website, are a strong denunciation of the gay-rights movement just weeks before the Supreme Court is set to rule on whether same-sex marriage is a constitutional right. Many legal experts believe the Court will invalidate gay marriage bans, in part because there are five justices who voted to advance gay rights as recently as 2013.

"If you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater."

Rubio's comments appear aimed at the evangelical base, a core Republican constituency that remains strongly against same-sex marriage even as a growing majority of Americans want it to be legal. That dichotomy makes it a thorny issue: respected party strategists, including Rubio's own pollster Whit Ayres, have warned that a candidate perceived as anti-gay won't be able to connect with voters under 30. The Republican National Committee warned in a brutally candid 2012 election post-mortem that the party must be more "welcoming and inclusive" when it comes to gay rights or "young people and increasingly other voters will continue to tune us out."

The rhetoric from Rubio, who is locked in a tough fight for the Republican nomination, was more aggressively opposed to gay marriage in the CBN interview than last month when he was asked about the issue by MSNBC, a cable provider that attracts a largely left-of-center audience.

"Ultimately the decision on how we define marriage has always belonged to the states," he said in the April 14 interview. "If in fact, as the polls indicate, a growing number of Americans believe that marriage between two individuals of the same sex should be legal, then they can petition their state legislatures and change their state laws. And in fact, I suspect you'll see that happen. It's already begun to happen."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/marco-rubio-gay-marriage-real/2015/05/26/id/646809/#ixzz3bHz6luwt

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2015, 11:21:45 AM »
It's time for Republican Party leaders to embrace marriage equality
By Mary Cheney 
Published June 01, 2015 
FoxNews.com

There’s been a lot of discussion about same sex marriage over the last few months – particularly from the candidates running for the GOP nomination. Sometimes it seems as if they are in a contest to see who can be the most stalwart defender of “traditional marriage” – who can most effectively stoke the unfounded fears of the far right.

When talking about same sex marriage, these candidates regularly throw around phrases like religious freedom and religious liberty, warn that marriage equality will lead to the criminalization of Christianity or the downfall of the American family, and fret that our nation’s very future is at risk.

Let’s be clear.  The fight over marriage equality isn’t about religious freedom or the criminalization of Christianity.  States have regularly taken action to enact civil marriage with clear exemptions and protections for churches, synagogues and other religious entities.  No matter what happens with same-sex marriage, that will not change.

It is also no longer a fight about our country’s future because that fight is already over.  According to a recent CNN/ORC survey, the highest percentage of Americans ever, 63%, support the freedom to marry as a constitutional right for gay couples.  This is an increase of 14% since 2010 and shows significant gains across all party lines.  Regardless of what the U.S. Supreme Court decides this term, the American Public is already on the side of marriage equality.  Should the Court oppose the expansion of the freedom to marry to all fifty states, millions of Americans will be disappointed, but progress will continue to be made.  It will just take a bit longer.

The next time a Republican presidential candidate wants to talk about the need for our society to support and protect families and children, I hope he or she will include all families and all children in that protection.

What is up for discussion and debate however, is where the Republican Party goes from here.

Along with the general public, support for the freedom to marry has increasingly gained acceptance among senior Republicans on Capitol Hill. Senators Rob Portman of Ohio and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska announced their support of marriage equality in recent years. And just this spring, twenty-three current and former members of Congress, including Senators Mark Kirk (Ill.) and Susan Collins (Maine) and Representatives Curbelo (Fla.), Dold (Ill.), Hanna (N.Y.), Gibson (N.Y.), and Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.) added their names to a Republican amicus brief arguing in support of marriage equality cases presently before the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Republican Party has always claimed to be in favor of certain key principles including, support for individual liberty, personal responsibility and the belief that strong families are the corner stone of our society.  This is exactly why more leaders of the party should embrace the idea of marriage equality.

Legalizing civil marriage for same-sex couples does not threaten heterosexual marriage; nor does it violate the First Amendment by forcing churches to perform ceremonies that violate their fundamental beliefs.  It will not lead to the arrest of ministers or priests who refuse to perform same sex marriage ceremonies.

It will, however, increase relationship stability, strengthen families and provide legal protections for children growing up in same-sex families – all of which are goals in keeping with the principles of the Republican Party.

For years I have listened while Republican candidates talked about the importance of family and the need for our country to support strong families.  I whole-heartedly agree.  We do need to support families, but that means supporting all families – regardless of which state they live in, how they look or how they are made.

So the next time a Republican presidential candidate wants to talk about the need for our society to support and protect families and children, I hope he or she will include all families and all children in that protection – including the hundreds of thousands of children like my son and daughter who are growing up with same-sex parents.

Mary Cheney is a political consultant based in Washington, D.C. and is also the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/01/its-time-for-republican-party-leaders-to-embrace-marriage-equality.html?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2015, 11:25:27 AM »
It's time for Republican Party leaders to embrace marriage equality

the young people in the party seem to agree.  But the older people, the $$ of the party, will have a hard time giving up their stance on same-sex marriage.

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2015, 06:31:16 PM »
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56 Percent of Voters Favor Right to Same-Sex Marriage: Poll
Monday, 01 Jun 2015
By Melissa Clyne

By a margin of 56 percent to 38 percent, American voters favor a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, according to a new Quinnipiac University National Poll.

The results come as the country awaits the Supreme Court’s decision on the controversial issue, which is expected sometime this month. The Court’s ruling will address "the power of the states to ban same-sex marriages and to refuse to recognize such marriages performed in another state," a January posting on the Supreme Court’s official blog said.

Political party affiliation greatly influences voters' opinions, according to Quinnipiac, which found that Democrats favor same-sex by a margin of 70 percent to 24 percent and independents by 61 percent to 34 percent. Republicans oppose same-sex marriage 62 percent to 34 percent.

Slightly more women than men support gay marriage (men 55 percent to 41 percent; women 57 percent to 35 percent).

GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Sunday on NBC’s "Meet the Press" that he’d fight the high court’s decision if it legalizes same-sex marriage.

"Roe versus Wade was decided 30 some years ago, and I continue to fight that, because I think the court got it wrong," he said. "And I think if the court decides this case in error, I will continue to fight, as we have on the issue of life ... We're not bound by what nine people say in perpetuity."
While the Supreme Court’s "word has validity," the role of Congress and the president, Santorum continued, is to "push back" when the high court makes a wrong decision.

"I think it's important to understand that the Supreme Court doesn't have the final word. It has its word," he said.

By a margin of 53 percent to 40 percent, voters oppose allowing individual states to prohibit same-sex marriage, according to the Quinnipiac results, and 57 percent to 36 percent support requiring states to legally recognize same-sex marriages legally performed in other states.

"Democrats, independent voters, men and women back same-sex marriage in these questions, with Republicans opposed," according to the poll.

Overall, the survey found, voters support same-sex marriage by a margin of 56 percent to 38 percent.

The poll also measured voters' feelings about the death penalty and President Barack Obama.

Support for the death penalty is dying, according to the survey results.

Forty-eight percent of American voters support life without parole for convicted murderers, while 43 percent support the death penalty. Those figures change when a person is convicted of murder during a terrorist act.

In that case, 58 percent of American voters say a person convicted of terrorist-related murder deserves the death penalty, compared with 36 percent who support life without parole.

In the case of Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 62 percent of voters supported death with 34 percent favoring life without parole.

"American voters may be moving away from the death penalty, but in general, there is absolutely no ambivalence" about executing Tsarnaev, said the poll’s assistant director, Tim Malloy.

Obama’s disapproval ratings have risen slightly since an April 27 Quinnipiac survey, according to the poll results, which found American voters disapprove of the job he’s doing by 50 percent to 43 percent. In the earlier poll, 49 percent of voters disapproved of the president’s job performance.

Voters continue to disapprove of Congress. Republicans fared worse than Democrats, with the Democrats receiving a disapproval rating of 61 percent to 30 percent, and their GOP counterparts getting a 73 percent to 17 percent score.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/gay-marriage-same-sex-constitution-poll/2015/06/01/id/647886/#ixzz3brdSvlJK

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2015, 06:39:43 PM »
LOL at Old Man Bum pretended to be surprised by this

Hey old man, it's even higher among young Republicans


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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2015, 06:57:01 PM »
He is wrong

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2015, 07:27:49 PM »
Another instance where you, the compulsive liar, didn't even read the link you posted.  Troll. 

A stupid hypocrite calling someone else a liar?   Priceless.

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2015, 07:50:19 PM »
A stupid hypocrite calling someone else a liar?   Priceless.

Shut the heck up you little ignorant punk.  I'm not Soul Crusher.  I'm not going to put up with your crap like he did.  

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2015, 07:18:41 AM »
Shut the heck up you little ignorant punk.  I'm not Soul Crusher.  I'm not going to put up with your crap like he did.  

He called you on being a lying hyp, who calls other posters a lying hyp.

You are, and you do so suck it up Nancy.

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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2015, 08:43:14 AM »
Shut the heck up you little ignorant punk.  I'm not Soul Crusher.  I'm not going to put up with your crap like he did.  

Poor baby.  Truth hurts huh?  No you are not SC.  Despite his short comings, he was never a hypocrite.  Let alone one that gets tripped up so easily by his own hypocrisy. 

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2015, 08:49:46 AM »
He called you on being a lying hyp, who calls other posters a lying hyp.

You are, and you do so suck it up Nancy.

No shit.  It's laughable - but not really considering how stupid he is - that he cries over and over about 240 not being a real Republican while at the same time, he is so ashamed of the GOP (and himself) that he claims he isn't a Republican. 

Other than calling 240 names, he can't offer a damn thing in terms of rebuttal or counter argument to what 240 says.  Instead just opting for name calling, complete ignorance of anything posted, and silence when challenged.

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2015, 09:17:38 AM »
Poor baby.  Truth hurts huh?  No you are not SC.  Despite his short comings, he was never a hypocrite.  Let alone one that gets tripped up so easily by his own hypocrisy. 

I know the ignorant little punk misses stalking Soul Crusher every day, but like I said, I'm not him.  I will ban the little ignorant punk if he stalks me.  Bank on it.   :)

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2015, 09:18:25 AM »
He called you on being a lying hyp, who calls other posters a lying hyp.

You are, and you do so suck it up Nancy.

Lying?  You mean like this?   :)

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Really?  You volunteered for which Army?  The United States, France, or Denmark?  Or all three?   :o

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Denmark. The International Brigade.


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Who is keeping score?  That's pretty dumb.  I'm interested to know when you served?  You don't seem like the military type, so that surprised me.  

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I didnt serve. I voluntered but they would have me because of my criminal record.

Your turn.

Why didnt you serve?

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So it turns out that not only did you lie about being from Denmark (or the U.S. or France, or whatever), you also lied about serving in the "International Brigade."  

I plugged that name into Google and look what I found:  "In the Danish Defence agreement 2005–2009, the brigade was to be dissolved and the Brigade thereby official ceased to exist on February 15, 2005."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_International_Brigade

In other words, the International Brigade doesn't even exist.  Unless of course you claim to have served (or tried to serve) before 2005?  

Let's keep the lies straight here.  lol

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2015, 09:35:17 AM »
I know the ignorant little punk misses stalking Soul Crusher every day, but like I said, I'm not him.  I will ban the little ignorant punk if he stalks me.  Bank on it.   :)

Pointing out your hypocrisy = stalking.   ::)   HAHAHAHAHA   Why is it idiots always think they are "stalked" when someone points out the obvious? 

You can't ban anyone.  You can just run to Ron and whine about it.  You don't have banning powers.   ::)

Of course, if you don't like anyone pointing out what a hypocrite you are... then maybe, umm....  don't be one so much?

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2015, 09:37:46 AM »
Pointing out your hypocrisy = stalking.   ::)   HAHAHAHAHA   Why is it idiots always think they are "stalked" when someone points out the obvious? 

You can't ban anyone.  You can just run to Ron and whine about it.  You don't have banning powers.   ::)

Of course, if you don't like anyone pointing out what a hypocrite you are... then maybe, umm....  don't be one so much?

Keep it up you ignorant little punk.  Your days of coming on this board every single day and doing nothing but calling people names (well, just Soul Crusher and Coach) are done.  You don't know where to draw the line.  You sound like a social misfit.  But I'm done reading all of your crap on the board.  So however it's going to happen, you keep it up and you are gone.  Book it. 

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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2015, 09:40:46 AM »
Keep it up you ignorant little punk.  Your days of coming on this board every single day and doing nothing but calling people names (well, just Soul Crusher and Coach) are done.  You don't know where to draw the line.  You sound like a social misfit.  But I'm done reading all of your crap on the board.  So however it's going to happen, you keep it up and you are gone.  Book it. 

You really can't handle anyone pointing out your hypocrisy can you?  HAHAHAHA immediately go on the defensive and start making threats. 


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Re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases in April
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2015, 09:48:18 AM »
You really can't handle anyone pointing out your hypocrisy can you?  HAHAHAHA immediately go on the defensive and start making threats. 



Get off your boss's computer and do something constructive you little juvenile idiot.  What kind of loser gets himself repeatedly banned from a message board?  lol

Come on little ignorant punk.  Do it.    :)