Superbowl XLIX - New England Patriots vs Seattle Seahawks

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About that. Cowherd read an email from a listener that was brilliant. While I can't remember the stats that he gave it went something like this. If it was such a bad call then why did Belichick prepare for it? Lynch is 1 for 5 either in the red zone or around the goal line. His chances were pretty good he would have been stopped on those odds. Also for every running play there 4 passing plays after that. That's what Belichick prepared for and it obviously payed off. 

Don't bother, it won't make a dent in some folks. It's "clear" that this was a league decision to anoint the Patriots as is was of crippling importance to make sure that Lynch is kept 100 miles from the podium.

How could I have missed this before!?

[blacken700]

Don't bother, it won't make a dent in some folks. It's "clear" that this was a league decision to anoint the Patriots as is was of crippling importance to make sure that Lynch is kept 100 miles from the podium.

How could I have missed this before!?

lol

[mazrim]

About that. Cowherd read an email from a listener that was brilliant. While I can't remember the stats that he gave it went something like this. If it was such a bad call then why did Belichick prepare for it? Lynch is 1 for 5 either in the red zone or around the goal line. His chances were pretty good he would have been stopped on those odds. Also for every running play there 4 passing plays after that. That's what Belichick prepared for and it obviously payed off. 

Cowherd has always been a dummy and constantly takes opposite/stupid viewpoints and when called out resorts to cutting off the other person if it is a caller. He constantly gets called out for bad logic on other shows when he goes on them and laughs nervously, tries to make it into a joke. That being beside the point but bad logic again. Just have to admit it was an awful call.
He prepared for it because they do do it but no one would do it in that particular situation with such an obvious dominance by lynch, etc. You might do it earlier in the game but not then. Just a terrible call and an unwise throw.
Overanalyzing....

[Nails]

not to mention Cowherd would gladly pay to suck off brady off after a game

[ChuckleHead]

exactly,been trying to tell all the arm chair coaches it wasn't a bad call

if it's a good call then why did carroll say it was intended to waste the down?

that "waste the down" statement is too stupid to explain.

[The_Punisher]

Tom Brady was not arrogant or cocky or rude during his post-win interviews. He seemed happy & humble & genuine

I bet that the commissioner is happy that N.E. prevailed.

that's one of Brady's many character traits.....even in those tough past super bowl lost, he showed he's not a sore loser and always try to come back and go at it again

[Quickerblade]

I'm happy Lynch did not win.

[blacken700]

if it's a good call then why did carroll say it was intended to waste the down?

that "waste the down" statement is too stupid to explain.

let's face it, it was a great defensive play by a undrafted rookie.a slant on the 1 yard line is a good call or a fade to the corner of the endzone

[WalterWhite]

let's face it, it was a great defensive play by a undrafted rookie.a slant on the 1 yard line is a good call or a fade to the corner of the endzone

No doubt!

[240 is Back]

lynch was 1 for 5 from the 1 in the regular season.

we're talking the super bowl.  I am no lynch fan - at all - but that man is unstoppable in Q4 of the Super Bowl, and anyone who thinks he doesn't get in from the 1 is high on whatever obama is smoking.  He gets in.

The Pats knew he woudln't be the man - they sent out their pass team and left him in soft coverage.  We know why - caroll knows why - irvin knows why.   Lynch too dangerous to put in front of the mic with that trophy.

[240 is Back]

Cowherd has always been a dummy and constantly takes opposite/stupid viewpoints and when called out resorts to cutting off the other person if it is a caller. He constantly gets called out for bad logic on other shows when he goes on them and laughs nervously, tries to make it into a joke. That being beside the point but bad logic again. Just have to admit it was an awful call.
He prepared for it because they do do it but no one would do it in that particular situation with such an obvious dominance by lynch, etc. You might do it earlier in the game but not then. Just a terrible call and an unwise throw.
Overanalyzing....

The MINUTE Cowherd started his show with "oh, conspiracy theorists!", I knew he was under order from his ESPN bosses to mock a CT before it's even discussed.

We saw it with the birth certificate obama, from mensbc - they mocked it before anyone had heard of it, so ppl would dismiss it immediately.  We saw this after 911 - FOX mocked anyone who asked any Qs before they even asked the Qs lol.  Now we see ESPN attacking the conspiracy theorists as their #1 story... how much did they pay for the NFL again? 

[TestDummy]

Just a damn good game!

[polychronopolous]

The MINUTE Cowherd started his show with "oh, conspiracy theorists!", I knew he was under order from his ESPN bosses to mock a CT before it's even discussed.

We saw it with the birth certificate obama, from mensbc - they mocked it before anyone had heard of it, so ppl would dismiss it immediately.  We saw this after 911 - FOX mocked anyone who asked any Qs before they even asked the Qs lol.  Now we see ESPN attacking the conspiracy theorists as their #1 story... how much did they pay for the NFL again? 

Okay, now you officially jumped the shark on this one, 240  

[Nails]

Info Wars lol



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[Earl1972]

Did you thank him for the autograph?

i wouldn't want his autograph

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[ChuckleHead]

let's face it, it was a great defensive play by a undrafted rookie.a slant on the 1 yard line is a good call or a fade to the corner of the endzone

the guy did make a great play.

the play in itself might be a viable call on the 1, but not against that defensive alignment.
that's what makes it a bad call. if they are stacking the box then an inside slant runs right into the defense.  with everyone packed so tight there really isn't a chance for an incompletion, if it bounces off the receiver there's no room for it to hit the ground before someone snags it.

the real problem is this. carroll sent in a 3 receiver set, so he expected the pats to defend those receivers which would have created room over the middle for the slant to work.

he didn't expect them to ignore the receivers and stack the box. when the pats did that, wilson didn't adjust, he just followed the play given to him, not giving consideration the pats D was not spread out like it should be.

a more experienced QB would have audibled or looked for the second option.

belichik guessed right. carroll should have called TO when he saw the pats weren't lined up as one would expect when a 3 WR set is out there.

he is trying to spin it, note how he fudges his words when he mentions the match ups, that they had their goal line people in and he had 3 WRs so he like the matchup........but then why throw inside right where the meat of the D is stacked?

viable call, but bad because the D knew it was coming and carroll and the QB didn't realize it.

[El Diablo Blanco]

the guy did make a great play.

the play in itself might be a viable call on the 1, but not against that defensive alignment.
that's what makes it a bad call. if they are stacking the box then an inside slant runs right into the defense.  with everyone packed so tight there really isn't a chance for an incompletion, if it bounces off the receiver there's no room for it to hit the ground before someone snags it.

the real problem is this. carroll sent in a 3 receiver set, so he expected the pats to defend those receivers which would have created room over the middle for the slant to work.

he didn't expect them to ignore the receivers and stack the box. when the pats did that, wilson didn't adjust, he just followed the play given to him, not giving consideration the pats D was not spread out like it should be.

a more experienced QB would have audibled or looked for the second option.

belichik guessed right. carroll should have called TO when he saw the pats weren't lined up as one would expect when a 3 WR set is out there.

he is trying to spin it, note how he fudges his words when he mentions the match ups, that they had their goal line people in and he had 3 WRs so he like the matchup........but then why throw inside right where the meat of the D is stacked?aviable call, but bad because the D knew it was coming and carroll and the QB didn't realize it.

Yup.  Wilson failed to see that the D didn't adjust to their spread and remained lined up.  At that point he should have called a timeout or audibled.  he is too young and inexperienced to have seen that play was doomed.

[Royalty]

lynch was 1 for 5 from the 1 in the regular season.

we're talking the super bowl.  I am no lynch fan - at all - but that man is unstoppable in Q4 of the Super Bowl, and anyone who thinks he doesn't get in from the 1 is high on whatever obama is smoking.  He gets in.

The Pats knew he woudln't be the man - they sent out their pass team and left him in soft coverage.  We know why - caroll knows why - irvin knows why.   Lynch too dangerous to put in front of the mic with that trophy.

Then why didn't Seattle just use another running back to run it in from the 1 yard line?

[blacken700]

the play was good the throw was off,that  throw should have been on the numbers,you don't lead a receiver on that route

[Nick Danger]

Yup.  Wilson failed to see that the D didn't adjust to their spread and remained lined up.  At that point he should have called a timeout or audibled.  he is too young and inexperienced to have seen that play was doomed.

The play wasn't doomed...if not for the unbelievable play by the rookie it's a touchdown.
With only 1 time out left, Seattle didn't have time to run the ball 3 times. A pass would give them 3 opportunities vs 2 if they ran on 2nd down.

[Grape Ape]

Francesa puts it lightly:

http://nypost.com/2015/02/02/mike-francesas-angry-seahawks-rant-doesnt-disappoint/

“That wasn’t one of the poorer play calls in the history of the Super Bowl, and that wasn’t a play that you can dissect in 10 or 20 different ways. That was the single worst big-game moment call in the history of sports,” Francesa opined. “That was the dumbest, most ridiculous, no-excuse, no-alibi, no reason to do what they did.
“It is inconceivable that they did what they did last night. There’s no excuse. There’s no explanation. Pete’s explanation was stupid. … They were playing for the next down. What? They were playing for the next down. What? Who calls a play in the Super Bowl at the goal line down four points, playing for the next down? This was a brain cramp.”

“The only pass you could ever think of throwing there would be out of a tight formation, a power formation, which means you’re all in, your tight ends are in, you’re in a jumbo look, you’re in an I-formation, and you don’t give it to the back. You sprint a guy to the corner by himself, and if he’s not by himself you throw it into the 15th row. That’s the only pass play you could even consider at that point of the game!
“But to go into a pass formation and spread it out and throw a slant into the middle of the field … If I lived to be 200, I’ll never see anything as dumb in my life!”

[ChuckleHead]

Then why didn't Seattle just use another running back to run it in from the 1 yard line?

Occam's razor

the idea to deprive lynch of glory may be plausible but it doesn't hold water for a ton of reasons just like yours, just like they gave it to him on the 5. just like they gave it to him all game long. and chances are if they had won lynch would have been the MVP anyway even if wilson threw the game winner. he carried them all game and even on that last drive he caught a 30 yarder. if the hawks won no one else deserved it more. wilson didn't have a good enough game to cop it even with the game winner.

[polychronopolous]

The play wasn't doomed...if not for the unbelievable play by the rookie it's a touchdown.
With only 1 time out left, Seattle didn't have time to run the ball 3 times. A pass would give them 3 opportunities vs 2 if they ran on 2nd down.

Good point.

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LOL @ Francesa.

I think that Jets fans took it worse than Seattle fans.

Haha!

[ChuckleHead]

The play wasn't doomed...if not for the unbelievable play by the rookie it's a touchdown.
With only 1 time out left, Seattle didn't have time to run the ball 3 times. A pass would give them 3 opportunities vs 2 if they ran on 2nd down.

since when is jumping a route an "unbelievable play"? what was he doing there? he said himself he knew it was coming.

sure if the defender isn't there it's a TD but the point is, he was there.

doomed