The "great" atheist proved to be a moron before his death...Atheism=stupidity

[obsidian]

Well, my IQ is only 175, but how I'd create a hydrogen atom, is from subatomic particles that did exist before the Big Bang. You're welcome.

No, you cannot operate under the assumption that subatomic particles existed. Nothing existed. How would you even know how to create anything with your 175 IQ? And I seriously doubt you have an IQ of 175.

More like 1.75

[obsidian]

You, my friend, are dumb as fuck. That is my argument in its entirety.

HAHA what argument - moron? You can't debate?!

[Automation]

HAHA what argument - moron? You can't debate?!

No point with cretins, such as yourself.

[Erik C]

No, you cannot operate under the assumption that subatomic particles existed. Nothing existed. How would you even know how to create anything with your 175 IQ? And I seriously doubt you have an IQ of 175.

More like 1.75

Before the Big Bang the Universe was subatomic. With no atoms and therefore no molecules, there was no atomic based matter, or nothing material. The Universe was energy and subatomic particles. The energy of course was kinetic, moving subatomic particle around, and with unlimited amount time, eventually, the proper geometric combination of subatomic particles reacted to each other in a chain reaction, of fusion, fission, fusion, etc., resulting in the formation of atoms, molecules, that is matter, condensing out of the energy and particles that previously existed alone.

[ChuckleHead]

if people really want to discuss the subject, not debate, then they have to leave their predispositions behind. otherwise what's the point?

nobody is gonna get a cigar for "winning".

and as far as religion fucking up this world, sorry, while that seems to be the case the reality is it's fucked up people period that are fucking shit up.

removing all religion from the world will still leave the assholes behind and they will just find some other pretense to do fucked up shit.

assholism is the problem at large. religion is one excuse assholes use.


but discussing the philosophy of the origin of reality and how it works has nothing to do with people who make up their own shit as a reason to act the fool.
be it an islamic suicide bomber or a christian abortion clinic bomber.

[The Scott]

Before the Big Bang the Universe was subatomic. With no atoms and therefore no molecules, there was no atomic based matter, or nothing material. The Universe was energy and subatomic particles. The energy of course was kinetic, moving subatomic particle around, and with unlimited amount time, eventually, the proper geometric combination of subatomic particles reacted to each other in a chain reaction, of fusion, fission, fusion, etc., resulting in the formation of atoms, molecules, that is matter, condensing out of the energy and particles that previously existed alone.

It's all supposition.  Educated guessing, really.  But there is no harm in that at all.  No one "knows" what existed that many years ago.  To state otherwise as fact is a canard.   

It's turtles all the way down.  Yup.  Turtles.  All the way down.   Duuuuude.

[calfzilla]

Well, believers do draw comfort in knowing their loved ones that have passed (who were also believers) are with their Lord; although, those that have not yet passed from this life (those "left behind") do experience loss as they miss and long for their loved ones that have "gone on to a better place".  There's still pain associated with their loved ones no longer being with them (even if only temporarily). 

I just thought this notion was universally understood and experienced.....maybe I'm wrong.

With all due respect and I do respect your; this is the exact perfect response I was expecting somone to say. However I still find it flawed. If i 100% truly believed in God and heaven I would be ecstatic that my loved one died. Even if I did miss them I would not get sad enough to be in any type of mourning. Probably not even shed a tear. I would just be looking forward to my death; if I truly believed. Just my.02. Thanks for sharing yours.

[Ron Harrigan]

So, because you are too stupid to understand what the world is all about, there has to be some higher power, to help your incompetent brains to get a grip at things? This is the main problem what comes about understanding reality: MOST OF US ARE TOO STUPID TO DO SO. Let me explain: Highest IQ's what has been measured are ~230 point. Average IQ in USA is 93. When smartest part of people are over 200 points, how we get the average as low it is, while we know that level of official retard is 60 points? For every high IQ  there is hundreds of thousands of sub par IQ's, whose intelligence is bit more than the level of retard. This is so called "absolute truth" about the matter.

People, who are lacking the ability to comprehend things in normal life, try to argument things which puzzle even scientists. Do you understand the "big bang" theory? I mean complete theory, all the thousands of pages which are included in it, those pages where is all the mathematics and little details? If you answer yes, you are liar, because on this earth is less than 10 000 people who are able to understand it completely. That is the higher power what you are talking about, power of higher IQ. Everything else comes from the fact, that internet is paradise for stupid people, because it gives them the possibility to argue these kind of things without any knowledge what so ever 

Clearly YOU don't know what the world is all about as Occam's Razor proves creation by the supernatural. All logic brings atheism/evolution down to only two options: 1. All things were created and designed by God. 2. All things were not created by God. Since all the laws of science prove #2 to be pure insanity, that only leaves you with #1. God created all things. Anything apart from God is unable to create even the smallest particle of anything.

And don't even try the old false dichotomy bullshit because there are ONLY TWO OPTIONS

THE TWO OPTIONS
 
"The only competing explanation for the order we all see in the biological world is the notion of special creation." -- Dr. Colin Patterson, evolutionist and senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History, which houses 60 million fossils
 
"Evolution is unproved and improvable, we believe it because the only alternative is special creation, which is unthinkable." -- Sir Arthur Keith, a militant anti-Christian physical anthropologist
 
"The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based upon faith alone; exactly the same sort of faith which is necessary to have when one encounters the great mysteries of religion....The only alternative is the doctrine of special creation, which may be true, but irrational." -- Dr. Louis T. More, professor of paleontology at Princeton University

NEED MORE, DUMBASS?

SCHOOLED BY A CREATIONIST

[SF1900]

Clearly YOU don't know what the world is all about as Occam's Razor proves creation by the supernatural. All logic brings atheism/evolution down to only two options: 1. All things were created and designed by God. 2. All things were not created by God. Since all the laws of science prove #2 to be pure insanity, that only leaves you with #1. God created all things. Anything apart from God is unable to create even the smallest particle of anything.

And don't even try the old false dichotomy bullshit because there are ONLY TWO OPTIONS

THE TWO OPTIONS
 
"The only competing explanation for the order we all see in the biological world is the notion of special creation." -- Dr. Colin Patterson, evolutionist and senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History, which houses 60 million fossils
 
"Evolution is unproved and improvable, we believe it because the only alternative is special creation, which is unthinkable." -- Sir Arthur Keith, a militant anti-Christian physical anthropologist
 
"The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based upon faith alone; exactly the same sort of faith which is necessary to have when one encounters the great mysteries of religion....The only alternative is the doctrine of special creation, which may be true, but irrational." -- Dr. Louis T. More, professor of paleontology at Princeton University

NEED MORE, DUMBASS?

SCHOOLED BY A CREATIONIST

Why 2 steaks?

[Erik C]

It's all supposition.  Educated guessing, really.  But there is no harm in that at all.  No one "knows" what existed that many years ago.  To state otherwise as fact is a canard.   

It's turtles all the way down.  Yup.  Turtles.  All the way down.   Duuuuude.

We know it wasn't a god.

[The Scott]

We know it wasn't a god.

Either one is a supposition.  I prefer "God", you prefer, for lack of a better term,  "Chance".  Either one is acceptable but based upon one's personal preference.

Thanks.

[Erik C]

Either one is a supposition.  I prefer "God", you prefer, for lack of a better term,  "Chance".  Either one is acceptable but based upon one's personal preference.

Thanks.

Your god is not real because it is just ignorant superstition. So you prefer ignorant superstition over reality. Chance is real, and probability is proven mathematical science.

[Ron Harrigan]

Why 2 steaks?

Why, all the better to feed my muscles with.

[The Scott]

Your god is not real because it is just ignorant superstition. So you prefer ignorant superstition over reality. Chance is real, and probability is proven mathematical science.

I can see that you prefer to behave as a child.  So be it.

[Erik C]

I can see that you prefer to behave as a child.  So be it.

Telling the truth is being a grown up. Playing pretend, that there is a god, is childish.

[The Scott]

Telling the truth is being a grown up. Playing pretend, that there is a god, is childish.

Okay.  You are an asshole. I am not come to change the diaper that is your mind, so run along now and play with the other babies. 

[Ron Harrigan]

Your god is not real because it is just ignorant superstition. So you prefer ignorant superstition over reality. Chance is real, and probability is proven mathematical science.

Yet again you confirm that you're positively brainless. If God weren't real, the physical universe (and all life therein, including you) wouldn't exist. Then again you lack the brains to apprehend as much.

[Schnauzer]

Yet again you confirm that you're positively brainless. If God weren't real, the physical universe (and all life therein, including you) wouldn't exist. Then again you lack the brains to apprehend as much.

 

[Natural Man]

Yet again you confirm that you're positively brainless. If God weren't real, the physical universe (and all life therein, including you) wouldn't exist. Then again you lack the brains to apprehend as much.

all your mumbo jumbo doesnt make sense. There is nothing "superior" "to apprehend".

[obsidian]

Before the Big Bang the Universe was subatomic. With no atoms and therefore no molecules, there was no atomic based matter, or nothing material. The Universe was energy and subatomic particles. The energy of course was kinetic, moving subatomic particle around, and with unlimited amount time, eventually, the proper geometric combination of subatomic particles reacted to each other in a chain reaction, of fusion, fission, fusion, etc., resulting in the formation of atoms, molecules, that is matter, condensing out of the energy and particles that previously existed alone.

Where did all this energy and particles come from? Why is there such a thing as "energy"? You believe it was all chance. However do you concede that in the beginning perhaps even energy did not exist? Prior to the Big Bang? Nothing is nothing. Even energy had to be created in my opinion.

Your Creator is Chance. You just call it Chance, where I call it a Creator.

Everything that makes up the Universe including Energy and the fundamental forces of Nature was Created imo.

[Erik C]

Where did all this energy and particles come from? Why is there such a thing as "energy"? You believe it was all chance. However do you concede that in the beginning perhaps even energy did not exist? Prior to the Big Bang? Nothing is nothing. Even energy had to be created in my opinion.

Your Creator is Chance. You just call it Chance, where I call it a Creator.

Everything that makes up the Universe including Energy and the fundamental forces of Nature was Created imo.

I don't concede anything. You're claiming there is some kind of intelligence, that created the Universe. Then where did that intelligence come from? The Universe has always existed. Matter can be converted to energy and vice versa as Einstein showed. There is no need to resort to ignorant superstition, since it doesn't explain anything. Science does explain things, but you need to be intelligent enough to understand the answers. Most people never take the time to develop their minds and intellects. Shame on you.

[BigRo]

all your mumbo jumbo doesnt make sense. There is nothing "superior" "to apprehend".

and you know this how? quantum physicists would say there is.

[Man of Steel]

With all due respect and I do respect your; this is the exact perfect response I was expecting somone to say. However I still find it flawed. If i 100% truly believed in God and heaven I would be ecstatic that my loved one died. Even if I did miss them I would not get sad enough to be in any type of mourning. Probably not even shed a tear. I would just be looking forward to my death; if I truly believed. Just my.02. Thanks for sharing yours.

Lost my grandmother last year after a long battle with cancer, alzheimer's and a number of other issues.  When she passed it was a mixture of joy and sadness.  Joy because she was no longer in pain, reunited with loved ones that had already passed and with her Lord and Savior.  Sadness because we won't see her again in this lifetime. 

I suppose it's because we exist in the finite realm where time and space impact our existence that we feel "burden of time".  Once we enter the infinite scope of eternity time will no longer be a factor and our perspectives will shift to something new....something transcendent. 

Until then believers with faith in Christ strive to grow closer to God in moments of struggle, sadness and stress.  As believers we aren't promised sunshine and rainbows all the time.  In actuality we're promised a great deal of struggle.  It's when the struggles come and you begin to perceive opportunities to grow closer to and learn from the one you claim as savior that things change and faith matures....with anything in this life it just takes time.

[che]

Maybe God didnt always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.

[Erik C]

Maybe God didnt always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.

Wow that's dumb! We have a new winner for the stupidest post of the year!