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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #125 on: February 08, 2016, 05:52:28 PM »
This is from July 9, 2015.  I don't know if it would be this bad, but she likely beats Trump badly, unless she is indicted, in which case she still probably wins a close one. 

Projection shows Clinton defeats Donald Trump 419-119 on Electoral College map


As seen above, Hillary Clinton would dominate Donald Trump on the Electoral College map
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Donald Trump announced his presidential campaign June 16, and according to a poll released yesterday from Public Policy Polling Trump is now leading all Republican candidates in North Carolina. A CNN/ORC poll has Trump second among all Republican candidates nationally, and a Quinnipiac University poll has Trump placing second in the key state of Iowa. Suddenly analysts are beginning to consider the possibility that Trump really could win the Republican Party nomination for president. If so, as the above Electoral College map shows, Democrats may be elated. According to the most recent polling available, Trump would lose against Clinton 119-419 in a theoretical Electoral College matchup. Follow me on Facebook and Twitter for more Electoral College and polling updates throughout the 2016 presidential election.

So how is this projections made?

First, the projection takes into account how Democrats and Republicans performed in the last three presidential elections. While past results do not always indicate future performance, the recent presidential elections give us a fairly good idea of how the demographics of each state favor or disfavor each party. More emphasis is put on the last presidential election in 2012 since that date is obviously more recent and, therefore, more likely to be accurate.

Second, trends for each state are considered. Trends are determined by looking at the last three presidential elections and also the changing demographics of each state.

Finally, the projection also accounts for any polling done within that state and the national polls done thus far. Unfortunately there are no polls available showing how Clinton would perform against Trump in individual states. What is available is national polls which show Clinton performing very strong against Trump. See below:

Clinton 59% v. Trump 35% (CNN Opinion Research 6/28)
Clinton 51% v. Trump 34% (Fox News 6/23)
Clinton 50% v. Trump 32% (Quinnipiac 5/26)

The Real Clear Politics of average of the three polls gives Clinton a 19.6 point lead over Trump. In comparison, Real Clear Politics average gives Clinton only a 3.8 point lead over Senator Rand Paul.

In 2012 President Obama won the Electoral College 332-206 despite only beating Mitt Romney by 3 points nationally. The last time a candidate won by double digits nationally was Ronald Reagan in 1984, who won by 18 points against Walter Mondale. In that election Reagan won the Electoral College 525-13.

Using the national polls and past results here is what a Trump versus Clinton Electoral College map would look like. This projection is actually generous to Trump, assuming he would only lose to Clinton by 14 points nationally, and that he would not suffer from the "bandwagon effect" in which voters flood to the candidate they perceive as the "winning candidate" if polls are lopsided leading up to an election.

Safe States for Clinton

State, Electoral Votes, 04 Result, 08 Result, 12 Result

California (55) –(D) 54%-44%, (D) 61%-37%, 37%, (D) 60%-37%

Colorado (9) - (R) 52%-47%, (D) 54%-45%, (D) 51%-46%

Connecticut (7) – (D) 54%-44%, (D) 61%-38%, (D) 58%-41%

Delaware (3) – (D) 53%-46%, (D) 62%-37%, (D) 59%-40%

Florida (29) - (R) 52%-49%, (D) 51%-48%, (D) 50%-49%

Hawaii (4) – (D) 54%-45%, (D) 72%-27%, (D) 71%-28%

Illinois (20) – (D) 55%-45%, (D) 62%-37%, (D) 58%-41%

Iowa (6) - (R) 50%-49%, (D) 54%-44%, (D) 52%-46%

Maine (4) – (D) 54%-45%, (D) 58%-40%, (D) 56%-41%

Maryland (10) – (D) 56%-43%, (D) 62%-37%, (D) 62%-37%

Massachusetts (11) – (D) 62%-37%, (D) 62%-36%, (D) 61%-38%

Michigan (16) – (D) 51%-48%, (D) 57%-41%, (D) 54%-45%

Minnesota (10) – (D) 51%-48%, (D) 54%-44%, (D) 53%-45%

Nevada (6) – (R) 51%-48%, (D) 55%-43%, (D) 52%-46%

New Hampshire (4) - (D) 50%-49%, (D) 54%-45%, (D) 52%-46%

New Mexico (5) – (R) 50%-49%, (D) 57%-42%, (D) 53%-43%

New Jersey (14) – (D) 53%-46%, (D) 57%-42%, (D) 58%-41%

New York (29) – (D) 58%-40%, (D) 63%-36%, (D) 63%-35%

North Carolina (15) - (R) 56%-44%, (D) 50%-49%, (R) 50%-48%

Ohio (18) - (R) 51%-49%, (D) 52%-47%, (D) 51%-48%

Oregon (7) – (D) 52%-47%, (D) 57%-40%, (D) 54%-42%

Pennsylvania (20) - (D) 51%-49%, (D) 55%-44%, (D) 52%-47%

Rhode Island (4) – (D) 59%-39%, (D) 63%-35%, (D) 63%-35%

Vermont (3) – (D) 59%-39%, (D) 68%-30%, (D) 67%-31%

Virginia (13) – (R) 54%-46, (D) 53%-46%, (D) 51%-47%

Washington (12) – (D) 53%-46%, (D) 58%-41%, (D) 57%-41%

Wisconsin (10) - (D) 50%-49%, (D) 56%-42%, (D) 53%-46%

Total Electoral Votes: 353

Analysis: As shown here a Trump versus Clinton matchup would really be over before it even began. By simply holding on to the states that Obama won in 2008 Clinton would already have over 270 votes, but given the strength of her polling against Trump she adds on to Obama's safe state territory with North Carolina.

Safe Trump States

State, Electoral Votes, 04 Result, 08 Result, 12 Result, Most Recent Poll

Alabama (9) – (R) 63%-37%, (R) 60%-39%, (R) 61%-38%

Arkansas (6) - (R) 54%-45%, (R) 59%-39%, (R) 61%-37%

Idaho (4) - (R) 69%-30%, (R) 62%-36%, (R) 65%-33%

Kansas (6) - (R) 62%-37%, (R) 57%-42%, (R) 60%-38%

Kentucky (8) - (R) 60%-40%, (R) 57%-41%, (R) 60%-38%

Nebraska (5) - (R) 66%-33%, (R) 56%-42%, (R) 60%-38%

North Dakota (3) - (R) 63%-36%, (R) 53%-45%, (R) 58%-39%

Oklahoma (7) - (R) 66%-34%, (R) 66%-34%, (R) 67%-33%

South Dakota (3) - (R) 60%-38%, (R) 53%-45%, (R) 58%-40%

Tennessee (11) - (R) 57%-43%, (R) 57%-42%, (R) 59%-39%

Utah (6) - (R) 73%-26%, (R) 63%-34%, (R) 73%-25%

West Virginia (5) - (R) 56%-43%, (R) 56%-43%, (R) 62%-36%

Wyoming (3) - (R) 69%-29%, (R) 65%-33%, (R) 69%-28%

Total Electoral Votes: 73

Analysis: Given a 14 point loss nationally to Clinton, Trump would only be assured of states that Mitt Romney by a very large margin in 2012. These states cover a vast amount of territory, but tend to have very few voters and therefore very few Electoral College votes.

Swing States

State, Electoral Votes, 04 Result, 08 Result, 12 Result

Alaska (3) – (R) 61%-36%, (R) 59%-38%, (R) 55%-41%, Projected Clinton Win

Arizona (11) - (R) 55%-44%, (R) 54%-45%, (R) 54%-45%, Projected Clinton Win

Georgia (16) - (R) 58%-41%, (R) 52%-47%, (R) 53%-45%, Projected Clinton Win

Indiana (11) - (R) 60%-39%, (D) 50%-49%, (R) 54%-44%, Projected Clinton Win

Louisiana (8 ) - (R) 57%-42%, (R) 59%-40%, (R) 58%-41%, Projected Trump Win

Mississippi (6) - (R) 60%-40%, (R) 56%-43%, (R) 55%-44%, Projected Clinton Win

Missouri (10) - (R) 53%-46%, (R) 49%-49%, (R) 54%-44%, Projected Clinton Win

South Carolina (9) - (R) 58%-41%, (R) 54%-45%, (R) 55%-44%, Projected Clinton Win

Texas (38) - (R) 61%-38%, (R) 56%-44%, (R) 57%-41%, Projected Trump Win

Analysis: The strength of Clinton versus Trump really shows up in the "swing state" analysis. States that Republican can usually count on like Alaska, Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina all the sudden become competitive if given Trump's large deficit nationally. Trump is projected to hold on to Texas and Louisiana by slim margin, but otherwise Clinton takes states that Romney won by less than 14 points in 2008, giving Clinton an even bigger lead. The final result after adding up all the Clinton wins is 419 electoral

http://www.examiner.com/article/projection-shows-clinton-defeats-donald-trump-419-119-on-electoral-college-map

Btw, this may have been from before Trump began his rise.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #126 on: February 08, 2016, 08:02:40 PM »
Btw, this may have been from before Trump began his rise.

It's from July 2015.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #127 on: February 08, 2016, 08:08:23 PM »
Stossel: Why Marco Rubio and Hillary Clinton are 2016's likely nominees

it's nonstop Rubio love from you.   what is that, 2, 3, 4 pro-Rubio articles or polls from you tonight?

sheesh.  If you want a pro-amnesty robot, I guess rubio is the man for the job.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2016, 08:12:38 PM »
it's nonstop Rubio love from you.   what is that, 2, 3, 4 pro-Rubio articles or polls from you tonight?

sheesh.  If you want a pro-amnesty robot, I guess rubio is the man for the job.

Shut the heck up you Obama-voting liberal lapdop water-carrying troll.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2016, 08:33:39 PM »
It's from July 2015.

That's what I mean.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2016, 04:10:10 PM »
What are these clowns up to?  Looking to hit a nerve and rake in a bunch of donations?


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« Reply #131 on: February 12, 2016, 11:02:34 AM »

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #132 on: February 12, 2016, 11:28:04 AM »
Christie has completely neutered the 'rising star' Rubio.

Of course, his inability to stop himself from repeating himself THE VERY NEXT DAY didn't help him.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #133 on: February 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AM »
CNN Poll: Clinton, Sanders in Dead Heat in Nevada

Image: CNN Poll: Clinton, Sanders in Dead Heat in Nevada (Getty Images)
Wednesday, 17 Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are in a dead heat in Nevada, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

In a survey of likely Democratic caucus-goers, the former secretary of state holds a mere one-point lead over the U.S. Senator from Vermont — 48 to 47 percent. The difference is well within the margin of error of 6 percent.

Clinton held a 16-point lead over Sanders in Nevada in October, according to CNN.

With the latest poll results so narrow, the outcome of Saturday's Nevada Democratic Caucus could rest with undecided voters. According to the CNN poll, 75 percent of voters have either made up their minds or are leaning toward a candidate, leaving one quarter of Nevada Democrats "still trying to decide."

Clinton tracked strongly with Nevada Democrats when asked who would do the best on handling key issues.
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The economy:
Clinton: 48 percent
Sanders: 47 percent
Healthcare:
Clinton: 55 percent
Sanders: 39 percent
Race relations:
Clinton: 58 percent
Sanders: 39 percent
Foreign policy:
Clinton: 69 percent
Sanders: 28 percent
Immigration:
Clinton: 56 percent
Sanders: 37 percent
When asked which Democratic candidate had the best chance of winning in November, poll respondents favored Clinton over Sanders 56 to 40 percent.

Among Republicans, Donald Trump holds a solid lead.

The results:
Trump 45 percent
Rubio 19 percent
Cruz 17 percent
Carson 7 percent
Kasich 5 percent
Bush 1 percent

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/CNN-Poll-Clinton-Bernie-Sanders-Dead-Heat/2016/02/17/id/714726/#ixzz40S6EVAJp

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #134 on: February 23, 2016, 08:48:06 AM »
Those who think the race is over on either side after three contests should look at the 92 election, where Bill Clinton did not win a primary/caucus until the sixth state.  This is more analogous to the GOP race today.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_1992


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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #135 on: February 23, 2016, 10:21:11 AM »
Those who think the race is over on either side after three contests should look at the 92 election, where Bill Clinton did not win a primary/caucus until the sixth state.  This is more analogous to the GOP race today.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_1992

That only works IF a bloomberg or mark cuban or some other crazy billionaire decides to run (ala perot).

With no perot in the race in 1992, Bush1 smashes the womanizing Clinton.

Dude, if you're down to looking at 92 as the chance for how Trump loses this, you're desperate.  I get it.  Trump being the face of the GOP is horrifying for a traditional person like you.  He's an emotional joke and he's lib at best, crazy at worst.  But he's your guy now.  It'll be Trump/Rubio.  Accept it.  Expect it.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2016, 11:55:57 AM »
Why President Trump Would Be A Bigger Disaster Than Hillary
For conservatives, supporting Trump would mean facilitating their own destruction.
By David Harsanyi
February 23, 2016

 


There’s still time to turn it around, of course, but now that many conservatives are moving from the bargaining to the depression phase of the Kübler-Ross cycle, we can begin to grapple with the prospective reality of a Trump-versus-Hillary general election.

If you’re an ideological conservative, a proponent of limited government, or someone who believes that the president has too much power already, you shouldn’t think of this matchup as a contest between horrifying candidates. Rather, you should ask yourself, “Which scenario would be more damaging?” I’m pretty sure you’ll find that Donald Trump is the form of the Destructor.

But Hillary is the worst, most evil, liberal ever!

Yes. You should be counting on it. Hillary, as you may have noticed, does not have the charisma of Barack Obama. Not only will she be divisive and ethically compromised, but Hillary will also galvanize the Right. Her presidency — even more now that she’s dropped the pretense of centrism — would reinforce the traditional ideological distinctions we’ve debated for years. Republicans would almost certainly unite against her agenda, which will be little more than codifying Obama’s legacy — a collection of policies that half the country still hates.

Hillary’s presidency would reinforce the traditional ideological distinctions we’ve debated for years.

She won’t be able to pass anything substantive. The most likely outcome is another four to eight years of trench warfare in D.C., with a number of winnable, state-level issues for conservatives. Probably, if historical disposition of the electorate holds, a Republican Congress. (Who knows what happens to Congress if Trump is elected.) Hardly ideal. But unless you believe that an active Washington is the best Washington, gridlock is not the end of the world.

The myth that Democrats get everything will persist. But despite plenty of well-earned criticism, the GOP has been a more effective minority party than constituents give them credit for. People are frustrated, but the idealists have (had?) been gaining ground since the Tea Party emerged. Their presence has put a stop to an array of progressive reform efforts that the pre-2010 GOP would surely have gone along with.

With a Trump presidency this dynamic disintegrates.

Trump’s inclination is never to free Americans from the state, but rather to do a better job administering the state through great deals and assertive leadership.

Just as some Republicans are already warming to the idea of his candidacy, the temptation in Congress to follow Trumpism — a philosophy based on the vagaries of one man — will be strong. Trump’s inclination is never to free Americans from the state (“we’re gonna take care of everybody!”) but rather to do a better job administering the state through great deals and assertive leadership. Or, everything the Founders didn’t want the presidency to be.

So while gridlock will still hold up most issues conservatives do care about, chances are high, considering his long history of supporting big government, that Trump would try and cobble together a populist coalition for polices they hate. This will end up marginalizing ideological conservatism from within the party.

I mean, what will Reaganites gain from this presidency? The idea that Trump could dismantle Obamacare — when he backs many of its components and has yet to offer any genuine ideas about how he’s going to do it — is a fantasy. The idea that Trump would name originalists to the Supreme Court is equally risible when you consider that Trump has shown absolutely no clue or inclination to understand what originalism entails.

There is little question Trump would abuse power. In some way, it’s the point of his candidacy.

There is little question Trump would abuse power. In some way, it’s the point of his candidacy. The thing that gets his admirers excited. “Finally, someone who will use the IRS for us. Someone who will circumvent Congress for us. Obama gets everything; why shouldn’t we?”

Some Republicans, already complicit in looking the other way on executive overreach, will likely be enablers — especially when it comes to issues they can get behind, like immigration. Maybe no one cares about free markets and constitutional idealism anymore. The working class is mad! How dare you disrespect its concerns?

There’s a difference between caring about the plight of working stiffs and embracing isolationism, high tariffs, and other policies that would destroy their long-term prospects. Is everyone supposed to surrender to mercantilism because it makes 30 percent of angry voters feel better? You can’t let a mob run your party. And it’s not a mob because it’s hyper-populist or constructed around a cult of celebrity or even because it’s angry — though all those things are true. The problem is that it’s incoherent and nihilistic.

“I hate Jeb Bush, so I’m going to vote for Donald Trump and burn your whole party down” is a non sequitur.

It’s worth pointing out that the chances of protectionist policies passing — with a bipartisan coalition of progressives and right-protectionists — are far higher under Trump than Clinton. Why should free traders help facilitate this kind of disaster? So they can brag about having a Republican president?

At some point there’s going to be a counterrevolution.

None of this is to argue the conservative movement or the Republican Party is in good shape, that the status quo is working well, or that the leadership doesn’t deserve what’s coming. I’m not saying someone shouldn’t blow up the Republican Party. I’m saying that that someone shouldn’t be an unprincipled imposter. Because at some point there’s going to be a counterrevolution. Those who swear up and down that they would never vote for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio because they aren’t conservative enough shouldn’t be surprised that a large faction on the Right (more than likely, the larger faction on the Right) won’t support a candidate who is adversarial to its belief system.

To support Trump would be an exercise in pure partisanship. For conservatives, it would mean facilitating their own destruction. It makes no sense.

David Harsanyi is a Senior Editor at The Federalist. Follow him on Twitter.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/23/why-president-trump-would-be-a-bigger-disaster-than-hillary/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2016, 12:16:22 PM »
Even things represented as Republican-hits on Trump, point to Hillary.  Everything points to Hillary.


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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #138 on: February 25, 2016, 09:10:48 AM »
Why President Trump Would Be A Bigger Disaster Than Hillary
For conservatives, supporting Trump would mean facilitating their own destruction.
By David Harsanyi

this is an excellent article.  Every getbigger should read it twice. 

Trump is all about govt takeover - his way. 
hilary is all about govt takeover - obama's way.

Cruz is all about the govt ending its mean takeover practices and scaling back its power.

If you support trump, then you support big govt in every part of people's lives - you just support his reasons for it.

Trump WILL kill conservatism for a decade, win or lose.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #139 on: February 25, 2016, 09:40:34 AM »
Political Science Professor: Odds Of President Trump Range BETWEEN 97% AND 99%
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02/24/2016

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A political science professor who claims his statistical model has correctly predicted the results of every election in the last 104 years has forecast that the odds of Donald Trump becoming America’s next president currently range from 97 percent to 99 percent.

The professor is Helmut Norpoth of Stony Brook University, reports The Statesman, the campus newspaper at the public bastion on New York’s Long Island.

Specifically, Norpoth predicts that Trump has a 97 percent chance of beating Hillary Clinton and a 99 percent chance of beating Bernie Sanders.

The predictions assume Trump will actually become the 2016 presidential nominee of the Republican Party. (RELATED: Trump Has Never Voted In A Republican Primary)

Norpoth announced his prognostication on Monday night during Stony Brook Alumni Association event at the SUNY Global Center in Manhattan.

“The bottom line is that the primary model, using also the cyclical movement, makes it almost certain that Donald Trump will be the next president,” Norpoth said, according to The Statesman.

“When I started out with this kind of display a few months ago, I thought it was sort of a joke,” the professor told the alumni audience, according to the student newspaper. “Well, I’ll tell you right now, it ain’t a joke anymore.”

“Trump beats Hillary 54.7 percent to 45.3 percent” in terms of popular vote, Norpoth prophesied. (RELATED: From Immigration To Abortion, Longtime Democrat Donald Trump Must Reckon With His Rich Progressive History)

“This is almost too much to believe,” he told audience members described by the student as nervously laughing. But he is convinced his model won’t be wrong.

“Take it to the bank,” Norpoth confidently suggested.

Norpoth, a 1974 University of Michigan Ph.D. recipient who specializes in electoral behavior alignment, said his crystal ball also shows a 61-percent chance that the Republican nominee — Trump or not — will win the 2016 presidential election.

The political scientist also said there is virtually no way Trump could lose the Electoral College vote if he rakes in 54.7 percent — or more — of the vote.

Norpoth’s general election formula measures candidates’ performances in primaries in caucuses to gauge party unity and voter excitement. It also focuses on certain patterns in electoral cycles. One major assumption is that the party which has just held the presidency for two consecutive terms is less likely to win a third term.

The model has been correct for every election since 1912 except for the 1960 election — which pitted winner John F. Kennedy against loser Richard Nixon.
In total, Norpoth observed, his forecasting formula he has created has been correct 96.1 percent of the time since 1912.

The professor said he has used the model in recent times to predict Bill Clinton’s victories as well as George W. Bush’s and Barack Obama’s wins.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/political-science-professor-odds-of-president-trump-range-between-97-and-99/#ixzz41CcR4Vdp

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #140 on: February 25, 2016, 09:44:43 AM »
Trump and Sanders: The founders’ worst nightmare
John Yoo
February 11, 2016 | The Weekly Standard

Constitution, Elections, Executive Branch, Politics and Public Opinion

Our Framers would despair about the winners of the nation’s first presidential primaries in New Hampshire. Though polar opposites with very different ideological starting points, both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders would have set the Framers’ hair – or wigs – on fire. They designed the Constitution to moderate the people at home while preparing a president to act quickly to counter emergencies, crises, and war abroad. Instead, the Republicans have a demagogue and the Democrats have an economic radical who promise swift, extreme change.

A supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders hands out signs to people gathered outside ahead of a campaign stop by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump at the meeting of the New England Police Benevolent Association in Portsmouth, New Hampshire December 10, 2015. Reuters

A supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders hands out signs to people gathered outside ahead of a campaign stop by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump at the meeting of the New England Police Benevolent Association in Portsmouth, New Hampshire December 10, 2015. Reuters
The men who met in Philadelphia in 1787 to write a new constitution designed it to prevent someone like Donald Trump from ever becoming president. One of their great fears was of a populist demagogue who would promise the people everything and respect nothing. As Alexander Hamilton, the key theorist of executive power during the Founding, warned in Federalist 67: “Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honours of a single state.”

Talents for low intrigue. Little arts of popularity. The founder of this newspaper may not have known Trump, but he clearly knew men like him. Insulting braggadocio and self-aggrandizement are not the 21st Century exclusives of reality show hosts and cable news guests.

To prevent mindless populism from seizing the White House, the Founders rejected nationwide election of the president. Instead, they created the Electoral College. States choose electors (equal to the number of their members of the House and Senate), who meet and send their votes to Congress. If there is no majority, then the House votes by state delegation to choose the chief executive.

While the Electoral College today seems Rube Goldberg-esque, it served the important purpose of weeding out emotional passions and popular, but poor, candidates. “The choice of several, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community, with any extraordinary or violent movements,” Hamilton wrote, “than the choice of one, who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes.” He also praised the separate meeting of electors and the Congress as another brake on rash populism. “This detached and divided situation will expose [electors] much less to heats and ferments, that might be communicated from them to the people,” he observed.

The Framers would also be aghast at Bernie Sanders. His calls for a political revolution, fomenting of class hatreds, and desires for a socialist economy also run directly contrary to the Framers design. The Framers believed our Constitution and our government should not view or think of people as economic classes or special interests. They were not naďve – they knew that what they called “factions” were an inevitable product of democracy. “Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an ailment, without which it instantly expires,” James Madison wrote in Federalist 10. “But it could not be a less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air.”

Our Constitution did not address the specter of factions by creating a government so strong that, in the hands of a crusading populist, it could crush special interests. Instead, it creates a decentralized government too difficult for one party to take over. It divides the national government between president, Congress, and the Judiciary. It further keeps federal power narrow and reserves authority over most of daily life to the 50 states. America would never suffer Sanders’ political revolution or his wish to transfer the “means of production” (for those who have forgotten their Karl Marx since the fall of the Soviet Union, he is referring to private property and financial and intellectual capital) from private hands to the public. Ask the communist nations of Europe and Asia, with millions of lives lost and millions more oppressed from the 1930s-1980s, how that experiment turned out.

As many European and American intellectuals have lamented, no serious socialist or communist party has ever succeeded in the United States. There is a reason why Bernie Sanders comes from a tiny state and represents a caucus of one. Our Constitution’s separation of powers and federalism raises too many barriers for any movement to take over all of the levers of government and impose an ideology on the United States. Even if they get too carried away by the latest intellectual fad or passionate anger, the American people have the handbrake of the Constitution to stop them from making a catastrophic mistake. It is time for them to pull it on Trump and Sanders.

https://www.aei.org/publication/trump-and-sanders-the-founders-worst-nightmare/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2016, 07:30:33 PM »
Libertarian debate tonight.  All the "Libertarians" on the board, and probably none even knew it's on.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #142 on: March 08, 2016, 01:44:19 PM »
Cruz, Rubio Now Trouncing Trump in Head-to-Head Polls

Image: Cruz, Rubio Now Trouncing Trump in Head-to-Head Polls  (Getty Images)
By Sandy Fitzgerald     
Tuesday, 08 Mar 2016

Republicans who don't support Donald Trump are more likely to prefer either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio should the race go to a one-on-one contest, or would even favor a contested convention rather than have Trump take the nomination, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll reveals.

By the numbers, Trump continues to lead overall in the poll of 1,000 Republican and Republican-leaning voters surveyed by phone on March 3-6:

•Donald Trump: 34 percent
•Ted Cruz: 25 percent
•Marco Rubio: 18 percent
•John Kasich: 13 percent

But in one-on-one matchups: •Cruz leads Trump by 54-41 percent

•Rubio leads Trump by 51-45 percent
•Among non-Trump supporters, seven in 10 say they'd prefer Cruz or Rubio.
•Very conservative Republicans: Cruz  over Trump, 60-34 percent; Rubio over Trump, 56-41 percent;
•Evangelical white Protestants: Cruz over Trump  by 64-31; Rubio over Trump, 55-42 percent.

In January, Trump had a 16-point lead and Ohio Gov. John Kasich was in the single digits:

•Donald Trump: 37 percent
•Ted Cruz: 21 percent
•Marco Rubio: 11 percent
•John Kasich: 2 percent

Trump's lead over Cruz is now 9 points.

Among Democrats, Hillary Clinton's lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders has slipped to an all-time low:

•Hillary Clinton: 49 percent
•Bernie Sanders: 42 percent.

Clinton held a 19-point lead over Sanders three months ago.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/poll-cruz-rubio-trounce/2016/03/08/id/718001/#ixzz42LlNFAUc

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2016, 10:07:00 AM »
Karl Rove: Trump Isn't Outpolling Hillary

Image: Karl Rove: Trump Isn't Outpolling Hillary  Karl Rove (AP)
By Cathy Burke   |   Thursday, 10 Mar 2016

Donald Trump isn't in a very strong position for a match-up with Hillary Clinton, despite his claims to have dominant polling results in head-to-head contests with the Democratic front-runner, according to GOP policy adviser Karl Rove.

In a commentary for the Wall Street Journal, the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff for the George W. Bush administration argues battleground states pose a particular problem for the GOP front-runner — and that's even before Democrats turn their full attention to him.

"[Democrats] will pummel him over his bankruptcies, this summer's Trump University fraud trial, his crude and misogynistic statements, his nativism while hiring foreign workers, his imperious manner," Rove writes. "These things may not matter to Mr. Trump's die-hard Republican primary supporters; they will matter to swing voters in a general election."

Rove writes Trump's assertions that he out-polls Clinton are "not true."

"In the 49 national polls since the beginning of last May, he led [Clinton] in five, was tied in two, and lost 42," Rove writes, citing the national poll averaging of Real Clear Politics.

"Mr. Trump is the only remaining GOP candidate who has never led Mrs. Clinton in the Real Clear average."
 
In "critical" battleground states polling averages by Real Clear Politics show Trump trails Clinton in New Hampshire by 7.5 points and North Carolina by 1 point, Rove notes.

"Worse, the latest polls suggest his position may be deteriorating," he writes. "He loses North Carolina by six points in a Feb. 17 survey by Elon University; Virginia by 17 points in a Jan. 26 Roanoke College survey; and Iowa by 8 points in a Jan. 7 poll by NBC/The Wall Street Journal/Marist."

His "bright spots," Rove writes, are in Florida, Ohio and Colorado.

"In Florida he's tied with Mrs. Clinton in the Real Clear average," he writes. "In Ohio, he leads Mrs. Clinton by two points in a Feb. 20 Quinnipiac survey, and in Colorado by 11 points in a Nov. 18 Quinnipiac poll."

Rove also argues Trump may not be able to count on help from blue-collar states either, despite his primary victory Tuesday in Michigan, though "he might have a shot at Minnesota," and could win in Pennsylvania.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/karl-rove-trump-outpolling-hillary/2016/03/10/id/718467/#ixzz42WaYRqEo

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #144 on: March 18, 2016, 10:26:20 AM »
Trump supporters take note:  Hillary has received a million more votes than Trump so far.

Wall Street Journal to Trump: 'Better be careful!'
By NICK GASS
03/18/16


The Wall Street Journal fired back at Donald Trump on Thursday evening, hours after the Republican candidate demanded the newspaper's editorial board apologize for pointing out that he has thus far received fewer votes compared to Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

"On Thursday the businessman demanded an apology after we—'the dummies at the @WSJ Editorial Board'—accurately noted that Hillary Clinton has received about a million more votes than he has," the board wrote in a piece headlined "A Trump Reality Check."

"The truth hurts, though Mr. Trump would rather walk down Fifth Avenue shooting the messenger," the piece continued, alluding to Trump's joke in January that he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and not lose any voters.

In a series of tweets Thursday morning, the Republican front-runner complained about the editorial board's coverage — for not the first and likely not the last time in the 2016 election cycle.

"@WSJ is bad at math. The good news is, nobody cares what they say in their editorials anymore, especially me!" Trump boasted in one, before tweeting another condemnation of the "dummies" at publication owned by Rupert Murdoch, with whom Trump has quarreled over coverage in his media properties, including the Journal (which expressed appreciation that the Manhattan real-estate magnate is "such a loyal reader").

".@WSJ Editorial says "Clinton primary vote total is 8,646,551.Trump's is 7,533,692"-a knock. But she had only 3 opponents-I had 16.Apologize," Trump tweeted Thursday morning.

Later in the evening, the paper responded, "Actually his rise has been cleared by the large and fractured GOP field. Of the 20.35 million GOP primary votes cast so far, he has received 7.54 million, or a mere 37%. Despite the media desire to call him unstoppable, Mr. Trump is the weakest Republican front-runner since Gerald Ford in 1976."

"The opinions he should care about are the 39% of GOP voters who said in Tuesday’s exit polls that they would consider supporting a third-party candidate if Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton are the nominees, or the 44% of non-Trump GOP voters who said they won’t cast a ballot for him in November," the editorial board concluded. "As Mr. Trump likes to tweet, better be careful!"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/wall-street-journal-warns-trump-220958#ixzz43HCEAx5x

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #145 on: March 18, 2016, 12:35:16 PM »
Poll: Trump Will Lose NY to Hillary, Sanders

Image: Poll: Trump Will Lose NY to Hillary, Sanders  Donald Trump (Photo by Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images) 
By Loren Gutentag   
Friday, 18 Mar 2016

While Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds a commanding lead over his GOP presidential rivals in his home state of New York, a new Emerson College Poll released Friday shows that the real estate mogul would lose the state in general election matchups against either Democratic candidate.

According to the poll, Trump holds a 52-point lead over Sen. Ted Cruz and 63-point lead over Gov. John Kasich in New York.
•Trump, 64 percent
•Cruz, 12 percent
•Kasich, 1 percent

However, when matched with Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, the poll shows that Trump would lose.

While Trump holds 36 percent of the vote, Clinton leads him by 19 points and Sanders leads him by 17 points.
•Clinton, 55 percent
•Sanders, 53 percent

According to the Washington Examiner, should Cruz become the GOP presidential nominee, the poll shows that the Texas senator would have a similar fate as Trump in New York, losing to Clinton by 31 points.

On the Democratic side, Hillary — who has twice served as a New York senator — is projected to win the in the April 19 primary.

Currently the poll shows Hillary with a 48-point lead over Sanders.
•Clinton, 71 percent
•Sanders, 23 percent

The landline survey of 768 likely general election voters in New York was conducted March 14-16 and carries a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points. The survey of 298 likely GOP primary voters has a margin of error of 5.6 points, while the survey of 373 likely Democratic primary voters has a margin of error of 5 points.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/poll-trump-lose-new-york/2016/03/18/id/719782/#ixzz43HhbP9F8

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #146 on: March 18, 2016, 12:37:13 PM »
Trump supporters take note:  Hillary has received a million more votes than Trump so far.


And she sucks!

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #147 on: March 18, 2016, 12:41:08 PM »
And she sucks!

Be careful how you talk about your next president.   :-\

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #148 on: March 18, 2016, 12:44:10 PM »
Be careful how you talk about your next president.   :-\

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2016, 01:15:45 PM »
Be careful how you talk about your next president.   :-\

just as it was planned when Bill Clinton called Trump and asked him to run for President.

Trump has artfully kept hilary's crimes out of the headlines, while neutering young hopefuls like Rubio/Walker, while creating a GOP civil war.  If Trump isn't a Hilary plant, then hilary is the luckiest SOB in the history of politics ;)