5 month progress

[Cleanest Natural]

I hope some of you are just taking the piss.. 

[mazrim]

I hope some of you are just taking the piss.. 

I'm not saying its bad progress either just a bit hard to tell at this stage comparing someone from a show to 5 months later. There is going to automatically be an increase in everything. Lighting is much different as well.
I guess usually when someone posts threads like this I expect to see dramatic results. There are results for sure, just not amazing results if that was what you are looking for. Kind of hard to explain.
Five months is not a long time coming from a show to gain impressively, imo, unless dramatically increasing aas, etc.

[Eric2]

What's the end goal here? Not a change for the better. Yes he was skinny in the bfore. Now he is a heavier bloated mess. Pretty sure the ladies would prefer the skinny version.

[Rudee]

He doesn't look 225 in that second pic.

[Van_Bilderass]

To those who comment on his lack of pecs or legs or whatever. And basically no one else will ever say this: no one ever changes their proportions. It never happens in someone who hasn't totally neglected some part of their body in training.

[DroppingPlates]

Regression on the haircut

[Cleanest Natural]

To those who comment on his lack of pecs or legs or whatever. And basically no one else will ever say this: no one ever changes their proportions. It never happens in someone who hasn't totally neglected some part of their body in training.

finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.

[Mobil]

pointy biceps in after pic

[DanM]

finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.

The guy is less than a year into bodybuilding, is taking steroids and him making good progress is astounding to you? Really?

[Van_Bilderass]

finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.

Looks like good progress. Of course the real test is when he diets down again to the same level of bodyfat. Just got to keep it up and not lose interest. It takes some time.

[BigRo]

come on that's a cop out for not improving weak areas, the genetic shape of the muscle wont change but it can surely get bigger.

[Van_Bilderass]

come on that's a cop out for not improving weak areas, the genetic shape of the muscle wont change but it can surely get bigger.

It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen.

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

And on and on...

Improving weak areas  - a joke  

[DroppingPlates]

^^
100% in the money

[BigRo]

It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen.

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

And on and on...

Improving weak areas  - a joke  

Look at Flex Lewis upper body when he was younger compared to his legs, now look at it.  Dennis Wolf's back has improved a lot even though he cant change the genetic shape. Radu might not improve his chest to a strong point but it can still improve. You still haven't convinced me.

[che]

. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it.


Improving weak areas  - a joke  

Complete nonsense

[Mr Anabolic]

It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen.

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

[Van_Bilderass]

Complete nonsense

You are welcome to show examples.

[Teutonic Knight]

I like to buy 1 for our 'hypertrophy' jerk 

[epcfitness]

From that first picture I would have put him on 300mg tren, 1.5g eq, 700mg mast, 500mg prop. Possibly some anadrol as well. He put on size though but those compounds would have done the same with a much better look

[DroppingPlates]

You are welcome to show examples.

Che is just trolling, like always

[Van_Bilderass]

Che is just trolling, like always

I don't know about that. Some of these guys, especially the ones who are more of the small and "aesthetic" type think of themselves as sculptors, when all it is is genetics.

[ruth_e_ford]

Radu last september and today..

Kinda how I look now but I am little bit bigger and fatter I got better shoulders and chest.

[che]

You are welcome to show examples.

I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?







There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.

[greeneyes]

I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?







There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.

He was young, not as his max. You can't tell the lagging bodypart when one just begin to train.
Arnold shoulder are something he can't grow bigger.

[che]

He was young, not as his max. You can't tell the lagging bodypart when one just begin to train.
Arnold shoulder are something he can't grow bigger.

 
What part  of ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it'' don't you understand ?