Softer than a baby's bottom

[Competitor 9]

called standing in "the bad light".... horrible conditioning, who the fuck goes on stage like that? His prep coach Genova or something???

Haha Genova.   That's made me laugh

[ritch]

The stuff he was able to do in just 12 weeks with him was nuts.  Look I'm no expert in this and if I'm going to spend time and money in it then I'm going to make sure I'm utilizing all of it to the fullest. The way he dieted me I would have never done on my own. How he was able to add muscle and loss fat.  How he would way up my carbs to spark methaboism rate increase when I was flat goes against what I thought deiting was. Could I deit without one? Sure no problem. But why not learn from so so e with years of experience already under his belt. Now I'm learn how stuff works  

if you see the value, cool. I really don't. He has experience yes, but not with your body and that's what counts man. It's just a game of educated guesses he makes. And don't take this bad, his guesses were off.

[Competitor 9]

if you see the value, cool. I really don't. He has experience yes, but not with your body and that's what counts man. It's just a game of educated guesses he makes. And don't take this bad, his guesses were off.

Thats happens part of the game.. Next time we will be way better off. Each prep is different and the body will respond better and ill be leaner this time so we can see the changes take place. I just know that you got to stick with a coach for a while and not just dump them if things dont go right. I really like him alot. hes a caring guy and knows his stuff.

[wes]

Thanks west. To be honest I was upset are first. Then I started comparing the pictures abd relized everyone looked way off compared to how I remeber seeming them in person.  I was center 3rd call out out of 5 or 6 call outs that had to that put me 12 or 13 out of 26 or more. So really for a show coach and I knew I wasn't going to win and was just for fun to learn how my body responded it's actually not bad! Would I have like a top 10? Hell ya! But I'll take 12 or 13 in my first show versus real competition

Nothing wrong with the learning experience brother.


Keep hangin` and bangin`.

[ritch]

Thats happens part of the game.. Next time we will be way better off. Each prep is different and the body will respond better and ill be leaner this time so we can see the changes take place. I just know that you got to stick with a coach for a while and not just dump them if things dont go right. I really like him alot. hes a caring guy and knows his stuff.

It's all about the vibe. Should post montly pics to make sure you don't get too fat. As you know, guys are kinda willing to point out such things. Seriously, this is a good idea. You know who talks shit and who is objective. The pressure will be good for you as we always here guys say "gonna stay lean post show" and what do we always see, lol?

[che]

Thats happens part of the game.. Next time we will be way better off. Each prep is different and the body will respond better and ill be leaner this time so we can see the changes take place. I just know that you got to stick with a coach for a while and not just dump them if things dont go right. I really like him alot. hes a caring guy and knows his stuff.

He told you to take a year off ,your coach is a fucking retard , if I was you I would do another small show ASAP ,you are in shape now you only can get better, you said  that now you know what doesn't work for you,  but you still don't know what works for you , trial and error , learn you body , that's how bodybuilding works .

[Competitor 9]

He told you to take a year off ,your coach is a fucking retard , if I was you I would do another small show ASAP ,you are in shape now you only can get better, you said  that now you know what doesn't work for you,  but you still don't know what works for you , trial and error , learn you body , that's how bodybuilding works .

We considered it, there is a show in a 5 weeks here in texas. But Thats when finals are and school as already suffered enough from the dieting. That would be 18 weeks of contest dieting. Im not really up for that. I need to grow and really work on my glutes, legs and mostly my terrible hams. Its one of those things do i kept dieiting and then take a year off and grow or just use that money i would have used for contest for my offseaon. Plus it looks like i might being having to pay for a flight out to the JR USA for my wife. Id much rather put my time money and energy into her then me

[wes]

He told you to take a year off ,your coach is a fucking retard , if I was you I would do another small show ASAP ,you are in shape now you only can get better, you said  that now you know what doesn't work for you,  but you still don't know what works for you , trial and error , learn you body , that's how bodybuilding works .

Sage advice right here.  ^^^^

[El Diablo Blanco]

He wants you to take a year off because that's money in the bank for him.  At least 1 more year of coaching you.  WAKE UP!

[El Diablo Blanco]

I'm sorry to hear that. From what I've heard it's the holy grail really. If your a 195lb in a year you can be a 220lb.  There is a reason everyone blew up in the 90's

Nah, it was insulin abuse.

[che]

pay for a flight out to the JR USA for my wife.

Aand here we go ,you have no idea what you're getting yourself into ,next stop fake tits....................

[SF1900]

Navy Mike, I will be your prep coach for your bodybuilding contests.

[SF1900]

Aand here we go ,you have no idea what you're getting yourself into ,next stop fake tits....................

Stop, you're going to make him cry.

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm going to throw out one of my ideas again. Say a guy has two or more shows lined up, a few weeks apart. It's almost impossible to make much progress in conditioning for the second show. I'm not sure why that is, maybe several factors play into it. But that is why it's also a bad idea to not try to peak fully for the first show as the second show is never much better. If you peak fully for the first show the success will carry over to the second show, your confidence is high etc. Do poorly for the first show, forget it, the season is over.

Probably a good idea to skip another show for Mike. Although I'd like to see him do the one in 5 weeks to see if my theory is right.

[calfzilla]

Navy Mike, I will be your prep coach for your bodybuilding contests.

No man. Guru.

[Never1AShow]

I'm going to throw out one of my ideas again. Say a guy has two or more shows lined up, a few weeks apart. It's almost impossible to make much progress in conditioning for the second show. I'm not sure why that is, maybe several factors play into it. But that is why it's also a bad idea to not try to peak fully for the first show as the second show is never much better. If you peak fully for the first show the success will carry over to the second show, your confidence is high etc. Do poorly for the first show, forget it, the season is over.

Probably a good idea to skip another show for Mike. Although I'd like to see him do the one in 5 weeks to see if my theory is right.

My experience is exactly the opposite.  I've done this on a couple of occasions.  In fact, I started to set it up with a tune-up show a week or two before.  I was always in much better shape for the second show.  Maybe it was psychological having just gone through it, focusing more, going all out on cardio for the second show, whatever, but each time it worked out great.

[wes]

I'm going to throw out one of my ideas again. Say a guy has two or more shows lined up, a few weeks apart. It's almost impossible to make much progress in conditioning for the second show. I'm not sure why that is, maybe several factors play into it. But that is why it's also a bad idea to not try to peak fully for the first show as the second show is never much better. If you peak fully for the first show the success will carry over to the second show, your confidence is high etc. Do poorly for the first show, forget it, the season is over.

Probably a good idea to skip another show for Mike. Although I'd like to see him do the one in 5 weeks to see if my theory is right.

I have always found it very easy to hold conditioning or to improve upon it during shows of close proximity.

You`re certainly not gonna` get worse if you have an inkling of knowing how your body responds.

I see no valid reason for your musings Van.

[epic_alien]

navy mike planned and followed through with this contest. He did well and experienced what bodybuilding is. Those of us who have done the same know how hard it is regardless of the placing. This can't be said for dilutionites like vince who come in like a fucking fat retard.

navy mike did the show and he put it all out there the whole way. Tough guys who talk about how great they look in the gym, and how some 70 year old lady hits in them in a bar are kidding themselves if they think they are better than mike. This board is about bodybuilding and largely competitive bodybuilding. Those of you who are here for other reasons that fine too. Homos gonna homo

[The Abdominal Snoman]

You looked pretty good. I'm guessing you probably didn't sleep a wink and if the CEO of some nutrition supp company was talking to your girl, I'm guessing that probably made your cortisol levels shoot through the roof...You're a smart dude so you know what those nutrition dudes are after when they say their giving chicks a sponsorship etc...I had a friend of mine who had one of those start up companies and his go to move was to buy the husband and wife/boyfriend/girlfriend lunch or dinner to plant the seeds. Once he got the boyfriend out of the way he'd make his move on the chick. Usually just give her free fart powder and tell her a bunch of lies about photo shoots and shit. Puddy in his hands...All these Hoe's think their something special and want to be famous...And if you got a husband or boyfriend who is all "wide eyed" about the business, it makes it that much easier to bang these types of chicks out...I'm sure you could see that shit coming a mile away. But even so it will raise your cortisol levels when it happens to you...

[wes]

navy mike planned and followed through with this contest. He did well and experienced what bodybuilding is. Those of us who have done the same know how hard it is regardless of the placing. This can't be said for dilutionites like vince who come in like a fucking fat retard.

navy mike did the show and he put it all out there the whole way. Tough guys who talk about how great they look in the gym, and how some 70 year old lady hits in them in a bar are kidding themselves if they think they are better than mike. This board is about bodybuilding and largely competitive bodybuilding. Those of you who are here for other reasons that fine too. Homos gonna homo

Good post!

[Van_Bilderass]

I have always found it very easy to hold conditioning or to improve upon it during shows of close proximity.

You`re certainly not gonna` get worse if you have an inkling of knowing how your body responds.

I see no valid reason for your musings Van.

Yeah not worse certainly, although it could happen too of course, but it's like some guys expect big imrovements and a lot of the time those few weeks don't do much. Even on the pro level where some guys say they are waiting to peak for the Arnold, instead of say the Ironman before, but at the Arnold the placings are often the same, say in the top 3, and the guys look much the same. I don't see the point of not trying to look your absolute best at the first show of the season, because a 2nd place instead of a win isn't going to help your case at the second show. I just have seen this happen locally too. A 3th place because you were 10lbs off still is bad psychologically when you might have won if you weren't "waiting to peak". The judges who follow the shows, maybe even judge both shows, also remember who won and who came second last time and it might cause some bias. It's madness not trying to look your absolute best every show, holding back a bit.

[Competitor 9]

I'm up 12lbs and got my fat water cheeks back lol. I actually like being fuller and lord know I feel better. I'm back on diet a lot like contest prep just more carbs and fat. 

[SF1900]

I'm up 12lbs and got my fat water cheeks back lol. I actually like being fuller and lord know I feel better. I'm back on diet a lot like contest prep just more carbs and fat. 

Handsome,  well built, intelligent,  charming, regular sized head, and 100% natural.

[240 is Back]

I'm up 12lbs and got my fat water cheeks back lol. I actually like being fuller and lord know I feel better. I'm back on diet a lot like contest prep just more carbs and fat. 

i noticed you have the fat cheeks even when ripped.  You don't happen to have the nephrotic kidney thing, do you?  Runs in my family and does the same thing, some look like that even when low body fat. 

Either way, I hope you take one week without bodybuilding - and see how you like it.  The road to "competing a year from now" is a long one, and really, unless you're willing to to all out with the gh or 2-3 grams, it's difficult to move up more than a few spots.  I guess I'm saying, if going all ouot isn't your goal, maybe don't put too many resources into it.

[booty]

I'm up 12lbs and got my fat water cheeks back lol. I actually like being fuller and lord know I feel better. I'm back on diet a lot like contest prep just more carbs and fat. 

looking good. Like the fat water cheeks