White cop guns down black man on video. Charged with murder! Live on CNN

[illuminati]

I think he is fucked

I think he executed the guy

but I think he wasn't thinking rationally at the time

should be a mitigating factor

maybe manslaughter instead of murder

or what ever the equivalent is in the usa

give people guns civilian or cop

and people get killed

if he only had non lethal options the outcome is the guy lives

and he gets to go on with his life

guns are too effective humans don't have the ability to use them wisely

we never have and never will

I get that it is enshrined within your constitution

but people are going to keep dying

its as simple as that

A Excellent Post.
So True About the Guns.

[Sokolsky]

I get that it is enshrined within your constitution

but people are going to keep dying

its as simple as that

Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.

[King Shizzo]

Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.

Which is exactly why cops need them to even the playing field.

[The Ugly]

yes I do

so was I

he is trying to reason with idiots in this thread

Excellent point.

[Slapper]

I think Slapper is E Kul. Remember him? The stupidity in this thread is beyond epic. It's embarrassing really. Slapper, SF1900, Andrei... What a fucking mess. I never thought I'd say this... The person with common sense in this thread is bigmc lol.

Fuck you.

[Deacon Jeschin]

you go into tunnel vision mode when in combat

your ability to process reasonable thoughts is overtaken by fight or flight syndrome

after two minutes of fighting

unless you are a robot

you act first think later


its that simple

Hahahahaha......

You consider it combat when an aged, overweight, unarmed man is running from you and you shoot him dead in cold blood?

Did they teach you the tried and true "Act first, think later" method at the academy you attended?

Being too stupid to be a cop is like answering the phone when the Special Olympics calls.  You say "Sorry, I cannot donate, as I've lost my security guard job."  The person calling instead says "I'm sorry but we called to say that you didn't make the team.....again."

[Devon97]

He's going to walk!

lol http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/

[Agnostic007]

I think he is fucked

I think he executed the guy

but I think he wasn't thinking rationally at the time

should be a mitigating factor

maybe manslaughter instead of murder

or what ever the equivalent is in the usa

give people guns civilian or cop

and people get killed

if he only had non lethal options the outcome is the guy lives

and he gets to go on with his life

guns are too effective humans don't have the ability to use them wisely

we never have and never will

I get that it is enshrined within your constitution

but people are going to keep dying

its as simple as that

He DID have non lethal.. he had a taser

[Agnostic007]

Which is exactly why cops need them to even the playing field.

Yes, the barn door has opened and the horses have left the barn

[pellius]

So you saying that police should not be armed?

[SquidVicious]

It was either the black guy or the giraffe. You guys are impossible to please.

[bigmc]

So you saying that police should not be armed?

no

not while all the bad guys have guns

my point is with the proliferation of guns in the us and the fact that people shoot at cops a lot

cops are going to shoot people

and that by and large people will fuck up

especially in stressful situations

[Simple Simon]

its better to shoot too early than too late.

[Slapper]

How could I have responded and quoted your post without reading it.

Ok, so did you do a google search? The law enforcement-lynchings love affair is a well-known fact of the post-reconstruction period. I'm getting almost 500,000 hits. There's no way you can't inform yourself about what you're asking for me to do for you.

I can lead a horse to water...

[James28]

Slapper what do you think of pit bulls?

[chaos]

This thread = 

[pellius]

Ok, so did you do a google search? The law enforcement-lynchings love affair is a well-known fact of the post-reconstruction period. I'm getting almost 500,000 hits. There's no way you can't inform yourself about what you're asking for me to do for you.

I can lead a horse to water...

Post Reconstruction? I'm talking about what police approved lynchings happening today.

[Nails]

Not really Smiling too much today the old fuck 

[Slapper]

Post Reconstruction? I'm talking about what police approved lynchings happening today.

Thank you. See? Reading helps.

I was talking about the post-Reconstruction era and you took the comment out of context.

Ok? Can we move on now?

[Slapper]

Not really Smiling too much today the old fuck  

Can he bring lubricant to jail? That 12'' black cock going up his ass is going to hurt.

Karma is such a frigging bitch, it's racist!

[pellius]

Thank you. See? Reading helps.

I was talking about the post-Reconstruction era and you took the comment out of context.

Ok? Can we move on now?

Point taken.

[dave19]

Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.

I disagree. Of course now that guns exist there will always be some around but different laws can still change the situation A LOT. For example take a look at the different situation in Germany compared to the US.
In the US every hoodrat/ghetto thug has a gun and a lot of them carry them around. When the police stops a car they draw their guns, most police officiers will make use of their gun probably more than once during their carreer, in some areas even on a regular base.
In Germany on the other hand were owning a gun is a certain prison sentence it's very different. The only criminals who own guns are almost always organized crime and those rarely use it on regular people.
The common thug here in Germany simply does not need a gun since the people he is dealing with are not armed either. Hell even most knifes, batons etc. are illegal to own, yet alone carry around. You can go to the areas that are considered really tough and "ghetto" here in Germany and still barely no one carries a gun because the risk is too damn high.

I come from a big city that is considered a social hot spot with high crime rates and the main scene for the feud between Hells Angels and Bandidos and yet shootings are almost unheard of. A shooting might happen once a year or every other year and then it's a high possibility that organized crime was behind it. 99% of the police officers will never ever use their gun during their whole carreer, most will probably not even draw it.

So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.

[illuminati]

I disagree. Of course now that guns exist there will always be some around but different laws can still change the situation A LOT. For example take a look at the different situation in Germany compared to the US.
In the US every hoodrat/ghetto thug has a gun and a lot of them carry them around. When the police stops a car they draw their guns, most police officiers will make use of their gun probably more than once during their carreer, in some areas even on a regular base.
In Germany on the other hand were owning a gun is a certain prison sentence it's very different. The only criminals who own guns are almost always organized crime and those rarely use it on regular people.
The common thug here in Germany simply does not need a gun since the people he is dealing with are not armed either. Hell even most knifes, batons etc. are illegal to own, yet alone carry around. You can go to the areas that are considered really tough and "ghetto" here in Germany and still barely no one carries a gun because the risk is too damn high.

I come from a big city that is considered a social hot spot with high crime rates and the main scene for the feud between Hells Angels and Bandidos and yet shootings are almost unheard of. A shooting might happen once a year or every other year and then it's a high possibility that organized crime was behind it. 99% of the police officers will never ever use their gun during their whole carreer, most will probably not even draw it.

So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.

Good post.
Things could change in America.
It would take a huge turn around though.

And possibly like Germany it might be for the better.
There must be a good number of countries that lessons
Can be learnt from.

[Sokolsky]

So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.

Wrong, it has all to do with accessibility and availability. Look for example at XTC, which is much more prevailant in Western-Europe than pretty much anywhere else, due to it beign manufactured in the Netherlands/Germany. Just like cocaine (higher quality/quantity) is more present in the drug scene in North-America due to its' geographic proximity to the producing countries.

Laws have never been able to prevent people from acquiring dangerous items/substances, simply because there is a market. Arguably the market for people wishing to own firearms is a lot larger than it is in Germany. 

[dave19]

Wrong, it has all to do with accessibility and availability. Look for example at XTC, which is much more prevailant in Western-Europe than pretty much anywhere else, due to it beign manufactured in the Netherlands/Germany. Just like cocaine (higher quality/quantity) is more present in the drug scene in North-America due to its' geographic proximity to the producing countries.

Laws have never been able to prevent people from acquiring dangerous items/substances, simply because there is a market. Arguably the market for people wishing to own firearms is a lot larger than it is in Germany. 

Of course the availability does have an influence and might even be the most important factor depending on what we're talking about. But if you'd get a 5 year prison sentence for owning a single tablet of XTC I'm sure it would change things a bit ... and drugs and guns is a bit different anyway.

Why do you think there are so few guns in Germany if it's not the law? I can tell you that the availability is there just as there are tons of people who would love to have one .. I have to admit that I'm an absolute gun freak and I can assure you that the only reason why I don't own a basement full of guns is the law. If the law however was the same as for possession of drugs I would certainly go ahead and buy some guns...

I know that even in countries were you potentially face the death penalty for even personal use of drugs there is still more drug abuse going on there than you'd might expect but I think when it comes to drugs most people can't act rational. A smack junkie would do a lot to get his gear, you can't compare that to the wish to own a firearm.