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Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« on: April 09, 2015, 10:27:08 AM »
I think if you are weak in some muscle group thats genetics and they will never be on par with the rest of your physique.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 10:28:39 AM »
It's just not going to happen (of course my point of view is only from the natty side)
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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 10:30:36 AM »
I've brought up my chest. It's still a weak point it will never be a strong point but it can improve

This is almost one year difference exactly

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 10:37:01 AM »
Arnold supposedly brought up his weak calves but I've never seen any conclusive evidence of a before and after shot - his calves always appeared good.

As for me, I used to have no front delts or thick lats but I've brought them up considerably. Still working on the calves and abs though.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »
As long as it has nothing to do with being lazy then there is no way in hell you are ever going to get a weak point up on par with the rest.

The first couple of years of training my back was pretty weak compared to the rest but that was because I was never giving it the same attention
that my other bodyparts got. After a few more years I balanced this out. My quads and especially my calves on the other hand are so strong that I
can barely work them at all and they are still ahead of other muscles.

I've been trying to improve my biceps for years and years but it will always be lagging way behind the rest of my body.

The only way I could get them on the same level was to stop working the rest and only train the biceps but who the hell would actually consider doing that?

You should not give up early though - sometimes a bodypart is just behind because of other factors than genetics.. like weak mind-muscle connection or the wrong kind
of training for that muscle... but someone with weak calves can probably try everything there is and never get them to the level mine are at without even doing any specific excersises...
walking around at >220 lbs with high hormone levels are enough for them to be a strong part.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 10:47:08 AM »
Hardly possible - think about it... why was it a weak point to begin with?
With juice and lots of reps maybe.
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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 10:54:42 AM »
Hardly possible - think about it... why was it a weak point to begin with?
With juice and lots of reps maybe.

Not really. Fact is it comes down to muscle mind connection. I use to go heavy on chest. But it would never grow. Because my sholders where so dominate they took over any pressing exercise. After lowering the wieght and really learning to use my chest did I start noticing growth. Now I'm back up to my old wieght but with crazy chest pumps like never before.  Don't act like everyone know how to train or has muscle mind connection off the bat it takes years to develope a style of lifting that fits you body

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 10:55:43 AM »
I've brought up my chest. It's still a weak point it will never be a strong point but it can improve

This is almost one year difference exactly

Chest looks improved/fuller but it looks like you were in better shape in the before, is that right?

Your face looks leaner and delt-arm tie-in looks better as well as your hamstrings. Could be the lighting though, what would you say?

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 10:58:50 AM »
Chest looks improved/fuller but it looks like you were in better shape in the before, is that right?

Your face looks leaner and delt-arm tie-in looks better as well as your hamstrings. Could be the lighting though, what would you say?
you miised a long 30/35 page thread on his last show,a lot of pics,,his chest improved a lot actually,he was washed out in the new pics'lighting 'sucked and few days before looked pretty dry compared to the last show,last minute changes played on his condition in the end.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2015, 10:59:38 AM »
Chest looks improved/fuller but it looks like you were in better shape in the before, is that right?

Your face looks leaner and delt-arm tie-in looks better as well as your hamstrings. Could be the lighting though, what would you say?

I was in better shape. I spilled over no hiding that. But the lighting was fucking terrible. Everyone's asking for there money back. It was like cave lighting

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2015, 11:21:42 AM »
Not really. Fact is it comes down to muscle mind connection. I use to go heavy on chest. But it would never grow. Because my sholders where so dominate they took over any pressing exercise. After lowering the wieght and really learning to use my chest did I start noticing growth. Now I'm back up to my old wieght but with crazy chest pumps like never before.  Don't act like everyone know how to train or has muscle mind connection off the bat it takes years to develope a style of lifting that fits you body

I have to agree with your notion and on top of that you have a pic to prove your theory so your opinion carries way more weight than mine.
Nonetheless I would slightly lower the expectations when it is a muscle/group that has less length and "initial base meat" than another group on your body.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2015, 11:26:26 AM »
You ever see people with really weak calves(almost like they never been trained at all) train their calves? In a lot of cases they're weak because they have no clue how to attack them. And can't put up with the pain it will take to get serious growth out of them...They train them like every other body part and see no growth whatsoever...

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2015, 11:29:49 AM »
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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2015, 11:31:40 AM »
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Holy shit  :o It looks like those twigs are barely able to support his upper body..

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2015, 12:14:57 PM »
I've brought up my chest. It's still a weak point it will never be a strong point but it can improve

This is almost one year difference exactly
You need to hit that squat rack......dat ass. :-\
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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2015, 12:21:14 PM »
A genuine genetic weak point will always remain a weak point.
If a body part is weak due to a lack of training or improper training, than that's different.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2015, 12:24:39 PM »
Not really. Fact is it comes down to muscle mind connection. I use to go heavy on chest. But it would never grow. Because my sholders where so dominate they took over any pressing exercise. After lowering the wieght and really learning to use my chest did I start noticing growth. Now I'm back up to my old wieght but with crazy chest pumps like never before.  Don't act like everyone know how to train or has muscle mind connection off the bat it takes years to develope a style of lifting that fits you body

great post and tips  ;)

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2015, 12:34:12 PM »
You need to hit that squat rack......dat ass. :-\

Lol I have a small ass :/ you can see that it take make some improvements. I'm doing a lot of glute work this offseason

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2015, 12:35:19 PM »
True
A genuine genetic weak point will always remain a weak point.
If a body part is weak due to a lack of training or improper training, than that's different.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2015, 12:58:40 PM »
The only way to get get your weak point to "catch up" is to stop everything else and focus on the weak point. They will just bli slightly better bcz u wont let the rest of your muscle go flat out!

Calves became better with cycling and barefootrunning, 3 years...every second day or even more. Price! Lost of ass quads : )

Centopani have weak chest, wolf weak calves, milosh no arms...etc etc...

I have sen tremendous result for traps shoulder gain on roided guys! Seam to be the first muscle that POP during a cycle!

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2015, 01:02:07 PM »
I've brought up my chest. It's still a weak point it will never be a strong point but it can improve

This is almost one year difference exactly

glutes have improved too...no homo  ;D

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2015, 01:44:23 PM »
Yes its possible.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2015, 01:47:45 PM »
Yes its possible.

I agree.  My deltoids were a definite weak spot but I prioritized them, bombed the hell out of them, and they responded.

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Re: Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2015, 02:18:57 PM »
My calves were a real weak point, until I really started beating the shit out of them.