Did anyone actually ever bring up his weak points?

[_aj_]

but there's obviously a limit or we would have guys coming onstage at a ripped 500 pounds.

Peptides. Somebody's gonna hit on the real-deal peptide and we will see 400 pound guys. It's gonna be awesome, in a vomit-inducing way.

[Dave D]

Peptides. Somebody's gonna hit on the real-deal peptide and we will see 400 pound guys. It's gonna be awesome, in a vomit-inducing way.

Lol had a friend say something similar about peptides (I'm not really sure what they are, just concentrated hormones).

I'm still waiting for the myostatin freaks to get serious about competition.

[The Ugly]

Coco did.

[wes]

I think if you are weak in some muscle group thats genetics and they will never be on par with the rest of your physique.

FUCK OFF FUCKFACE .   

[2Thick]

When I first started training, my whole body was a weak point. 

130lbs in 1985, 215lbs in 2015. 

We are very similar.

I'm 5'7, was 135-ish in late '87 - early '88 when I started training at 18. Have typically been 220-ish in recent years.

I brought up my back and chest greatly in my early to mid 20's.

I learned how to train back properly with basic exercises, heavy weights, proper form, and a fair amount of volume.

I brought my chest up by aligning my body properly so that my shoulders didn't do all the work.

My calves were like matchsticks at 18. I've put 5-6 inches on each of them, but they're still weak after over a quarter century of training.

[pellius]

larry scott =delts, arnold calves...

Scott didn't have weak delts. They exploded when he started training. He was simply narrow. Just like Heath. No one said he has weak delts. He's just structurally narrow. And as I pointed out, Arnold, as he outlined in his book, developed his calves when he started training them after being inspired by Reg Park.

To talk about weak body parts from a bodybuilding perspective we are talking about advance bbers who have developed their entire body with some simply not responding like others. Dennis Wolf's calves is an obvious example. Massive all over except for calves.

[rocket]

I doubt many naturals have ever gotten paste weak body parts

I have always had very small arms and they certainly never really ever gotten much bigger.

[pellius]

We are very similar.

I'm 5'7, was 135-ish in late '87 - early '88 when I started training at 18. Have typically been 220-ish in recent years.

I brought up my back and chest greatly in my early to mid 20's.

I learned how to train back properly with basic exercises, heavy weights, proper form, and a fair amount of volume.

I brought my chest up by aligning my body properly so that my shoulders didn't do all the work.

My calves were like matchsticks at 18. I've put 5-6 inches on each of them, but they're still weak after over a quarter century of training.

Your calves are 24 inches?

[che]

Scott didn't have weak delts. They exploded when he started training. He was simply narrow. Just like Heath. No one said he has weak delts. He's just structurally narrow. And as I pointed out, Arnold, as he outlined in his book, developed his calves when he started training them after being inspired by Reg Park.

To talk about weak body parts from a bodybuilding perspective we are talking about advance bbers who have developed their entire body with some simply not responding like others. Dennis Wolf's calves is an obvious example. Massive all over except for calves.

Dennis Wolf doesn't train calves.

[cephissus]

Pellius apparently brought his calves up.  The 'after' is certainly impressive, but I never saw the 'before'... Just have to take his word about the progress.

[Rudee]

My hamstrings made night and day improvements after focusing my hamstring training around the High Incline Leg press, after reading a Greg Zulak article in Musclemag back in the late 80's about it.  My quads and calves have always dominated, so was very pleased to find something that could get my hamstrings to respond where typical lying curls, deadlifts, etc gave me good strength gains, but not the balanced size I was hoping.   I still do high incline leg presses for hamstrings to this day, but with much lighter weight (270 tops) and at a slow cadence, as my lower back is not like it was when I was 18.   Best hamstring (and glute) exercise ever imo. 

[The Ugly]

Pellius apparently brought his calves up.  The 'after' is certainly impressive, but I never saw the 'before'... Just have to take his word about the progress.

Think this was 'before.'

[pellius]

Pellius apparently brought his calves up.  The 'after' is certainly impressive, but I never saw the 'before'... Just have to take his word about the progress.

There's a "before" pic on the thread on IronAge. I was banned from that board a while ago but if anyone has access to that board just search mtwain and the thread should pop up. They started out at just below 13 inches but I got to them to about 16. They're not huge calves but because the rest of me are all weak points they stand out more. I never really responded dramatically to resistance training.

[2Thick]

Your calves are 24 inches?

My calves were like matchsticks at 18 years old.

[ritch]

Think this was 'before.'

all drugs.

[Neptune100]

Over the past few years I've brought my back up from a weak point to a strong  point...all due to how I was training...started doing just the basics and foregoing all the machines.  Pullups (weighted at times)  barbell rows, deadlifts, pulldowns...I started doing 2 days of back every week instead of 1 day...the first day was heavy and overhand grip, the second day was light and underhand grip on all the same exercises (except deadlifts, on the second day i replaced them with another back movement)...

[pellius]

My calves were like matchsticks at 18 years old.

Evander Holyfield, at 214 lbs had QUADS that measured 22 inches. Arnold, who had the best developed calves during his era, measured at around 20 inches (though all bber's measurements and weights are over stated)

http://slam.canoe.ca/BoxingHolyfieldMoorer/tale_ofthe_tape.html

Please post a pic of your 24 inch calves. Never seen them that big.

[SquatsRule]

He's not saying they are 24 inches.

[SquatsRule]

BTW I remember your dictionary calves thread. I was inspired but your technique didn't work for me.

[mazrim]

Evander Holyfield, at 214 lbs had QUADS that measured 22 inches. Arnold, who had the best developed calves during his era, measured at around 20 inches (though all bber's measurements and weights are over stated)

http://slam.canoe.ca/BoxingHolyfieldMoorer/tale_ofthe_tape.html

Please post a pic of your 24 inch calves. Never seen them that big.

You're getting confused. You thought his age was his calves measurement.

[2Thick]

Evander Holyfield, at 214 lbs had QUADS that measured 22 inches. Arnold, who had the best developed calves during his era, measured at around 20 inches (though all bber's measurements and weights are over stated)

http://slam.canoe.ca/BoxingHolyfieldMoorer/tale_ofthe_tape.html

Please post a pic of your 24 inch calves. Never seen them that big.

When I was 18 years old, my calves were like matchsticks.

THEY WERE NOWHERE NEAR 18 INCHES!

They're NOT ANYWHERE NEAR 24 INCHES!

Much of their growth came from my whole body getting much bigger. They're still pretty shitty, just somewhat bigger than the matchsticks they were when I was 18 years old.

[pellius]

When I was 18 years old, my calves were like matchsticks.

THEY WERE NOWHERE NEAR 18 INCHES!

They're NOT ANYWHERE NEAR 24 INCHES!

Much of their growth came from my whole body getting much bigger. They're still pretty shitty, just somewhat bigger than the matchsticks they were when I was 18 years old.

LOL. In that case nevermind.

Still 5+ inches is incredible progress. Mine was a bit under 13 inches and they are about 16 now but those 3 inches made a huge difference. I went from people expressing sorrow for me since I obviously looked like I had polio to actually getting compliments every now again.

[2Thick]

Yours look great.

Mine don't look that good - they're still pretty shitty from the front. I went from a skinny little runt with matchstick calves at 18 years old to a stocky cornfed mofo with near 17" cankles over a couple of decades. Calves were probably 11-ish then, they're just under 17" now. Arms probably 13-ish then, now just under 18".

My quads and torso are big and well-developed, calves and arms are still pretty weak.