7 weeks into Diet, not much happening

[Thong Maniac]

This  method certainly goes against the 'Adonis Principles' and 'The NoOne -Galeniko Principles'  , I  would not hit .

Too much food? Yes im actually curious what the calorie content is of this.

Also, the hardest part about high carb low fat is eating out with family. Its hard to find low fat options, as even carb stuff is covered with butters and oils. High fat low carbs are much easier when eating out. Order steak or chicken and and its already covered in butter. So easy

[El Diablo Blanco]

I am confused. You say nothing is happening by the scale weight is dropping fast. Isn't that something?

[Thong Maniac]

I am confused. You say nothing is happening by the scale weight is dropping fast. Isn't that something?

Its weird man, the scale has dropped about 10 lbs in 7 weeks, but stalled out. Ive dieted down to 195 last cut and looked amazing. Im 200 now, and no where near looking like i did at 195. I dont think another 5lb loss is gonna help.

Im looking into carb cycling now, but not sure how to set it up. In my opinion after doing the AD, i think it works in principle but would work better once im lean enough. At the present time, maybe CKD would be best

[El Diablo Blanco]

You can keep your diet the same and throw in another cardio session in the morning or night.  That should kick start your fat loss again.

[Thong Maniac]

Anyone just done a standard 40/40/20?

Is it enough for an endo to just use a diet like this with 2000 cals and see epic fatloss like all the forums are saying? Id probably really up my cardio on this since id probably just feel better over all.
The keto shit is really turning me into an asshole and extreme brain fog. Not worth it. Im also binging alot on "refeed" days which turn into pizza meals.

[forillagorilla]

Absolutely anyone can stay lean and muscular year round.. Its much harder for some than others but NO ONE has a legitimate excuse

[Thong Maniac]

Absolutely anyone can stay lean and muscular year round.. Its much harder for some than others but NO ONE has a legitimate excuse

I agree. I have the ability to buckle down. Im never lettinng myself "bulk" again. Its so much headache for endos, unless they are secure with themselves and dont care about double chins and tits.

[ritch]

Anyone just done a standard 40/40/20?

Is it enough for an endo to just use a diet like this with 2000 cals and see epic fatloss like all the forums are saying? Id probably really up my cardio on this since id probably just feel better over all.
The keto shit is really turning me into an asshole and extreme brain fog. Not worth it. Im also binging alot on "refeed" days which turn into pizza meals.

That is the middle ground approach I think many people could do very well on. If possible, 2 of the 6 meals, 0 carbs. Just that, can really clean a person up and look good.

Fuck this keto shit unless you enjoy that (some just thrive on that and respond best to it...) or are competing.

If training hard, doing a bit of cardio and taking gear, I have a hard time believing that won't work.

[Thong Maniac]

That is the middle ground approach I think many people could do very well on. If possible, 2 of the 6 meals, 0 carbs. Just that, can really clean a person up and look good.

Fuck this keto shit unless you enjoy that (some just thrive on that and respond best to it...) or are competing.

If training hard, doing a bit of cardio and taking gear, I have a hard time believing that won't work.

And a calorie defecit though rigt? Im only on TRT pharma grade though.

My impression of keto, is two things
1. Works real well if your totally fat and want to drop alot but not exactly look good and need to get healthy again. Like someone who needs to lose 100 lbs

2. Someone 2-3 weeks out from a show or beAch and is already below 10 percent

[ritch]

And a calorie defecit though rigt? Im only on TRT pharma grade though.

My impression of keto, is two things
1. Works real well if your totally fat and want to drop alot but not exactly look good and need to get healthy again. Like someone who needs to lose 100 lbs

2. Someone 2-3 weeks out from a show or beAch and is already below 10 percent

Well ya, if you wanna lose weight. Or even 40 protein, 40 carbs, 20 fats is a good macro ratio you coul try, don't even worry about cals, aim x amount of this and that at certain times of the day.

That's why I would not follow the 404020 thing to a T, but is a good baseline approach to get started and make adjustments.

[Simple Simon]

Low carb is how you burn off fullness. It's all about carb cycling adding carbs when you get to flat and keeping metab rates up. If you keep dieting in low cals especially low carbs your body is going to adapt to it and slow down and stall. Then no matter what you do your not going to get lean and keep your size. Drugs play a huge helping hand but your not taking enough to play a big roll

Just shut up.

[Competitor 9]

Just shut up.

That facts not really even up for debate. Your going to tell me if I go Keto 1600 cals a day 1hr of cardio im not going to kill my metab and my body isn't going to start to burn muscle? Come on

[Simple Simon]

That facts not really even up for debate. Your going to tell me if I go Keto 1600 cals a day 1hr of cardio im not going to kill my metab and my body isn't going to start to burn muscle? Come on

Said the guy who stepped onstage with fat hams and glutes.

[FitnessFrenzy]

Try Nazi concentration camp diet 

aka the Cleanest Natural doctrine.

[Teutonic Knight]

aka the Cleanest Natural doctrine.

& the best of all nobody was complaining about Nazi menu 

[Thong Maniac]

So if i was operating on the anabolic diet for 7-8 weeks in a pretty decent defecit of 600 cals or so, can i just revert to a 40/40/20 today as long as calories remain constant?

[kevthekid]

it's very simple. Always have high glycemic carbs pre and post workout and have low glycemic carbs rest of the day. On non training days I limit carbs to around 33grams which is twice a week. No cheat days or meals either just stick with the diet and get it over with.

[Competitor 9]

Said the guy who stepped onstage with fat hams and glutes.

You can kiss my fatass

[Simple Simon]

You can kiss my fatass

bearing in mind your dosage, thats nothing to be proud of.

[ritch]

So if i was operating on the anabolic diet for 7-8 weeks in a pretty decent defecit of 600 cals or so, can i just revert to a 40/40/20 today as long as calories remain constant?

why not try that? It's a middle ground approach.

33 grams of carbs on non training days Kev? Unless doing a show, why do this???

[Competitor 9]

bearing in mind your dosage, thats nothing to be proud of.

What was my dose then?

[Simple Simon]

What was my dose then?

I shudder to think bearing in mind the year round stack you quoted before you "got serious"

If you want a moderate stack that you should take year round I like
1200 sus
500 deca
600 eq
50 Abombs for strength

You have to watch the eq as it with raise you blood cell count and for some that's how blood pressure shoots up.  It would be the only one I "cycle"

If you feel like getting a little crazy throw on 400mg tren e.  Shit works wonders

[Competitor 9]

I shudder to think bearing in mind the year round stack you quoted before you "got serious"

That was what I recommend. Not what I took. Right now in only in 1g sus and 600eg. This is the most I've ever taken

[cephissus]

FUCK FAT,Fuck Keto........try the "WES DIET" !!!!   ;0

Meal #1 :
10 eggwhites cooked in non-fat cooking spray
1 whole egg
12 oz. water

Meal #2 :
1 can water packed tuna (straight out da` can)
lg. green salad with Fat Freee Low sugar dressing
12 oz. water

Meal #3 :
6 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup of rice or a baked potato (use fake butter spray)
2 cups veggies
12 oz. water

Meal #4 :
Post workout skake in water  (put this in the mix after you train)

Meal #5 :
6 whole eggs scrambled in PAM spray
12 oz. water

Meal # 6:
Whey in water

Never eat carbs before training or you will burn these carbs as fuel as opposed to the much better scenario of burning your own bodyfat.


Walk on an inclined treadmill 5-6 days post-workout at various speeds and heights..........mix it up.

I'm estimating:

10 egg whites: 170
1 egg: 70

1 can tuna: 180
Salad/dressing: 120

6oz chicken breast: 190
1c rice: 220
2c veggies: 40

Shake: 200

6 eggs: 420

Whey: 150

Total: 1760 calories

Would you say that's close estimate?  The shake, whey, and veggies could be way off, since you don't list quantities or type, but I figure the rest should be close.

Seems really low -- I'm dying on 2200-2400 cals, though I estimate I burn 600-800 cals between my two daily workouts.

 Is this a long-term sustainable diet, or strictly for weight loss?

How close to your workout is meal 3?

[cephissus]

You can kiss my fatass

Is that your stage condition, achieved through carb cycling, etc?